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  • 1

    Interview: Apr 20th, 2004

    Week 3 Question (Matt Hatch)

    There are many theories that attempt to create a connection of time duration to the transmigration of the dead Forsaken. Are there time and/or power constraints on the Dark One's ability to transmigrate souls?

    Robert Jordan

    There are definitely time constraints on the Dark One's power to transmigrate a soul. The soul doesn't have to be secured immediately—that is, the Dark One doesn't have to be ready to snatch the soul at the instant of death—but the longer that passes after the death, the less chance that the Dark One will be able to secure the soul. Someone who has been killed with balefire in actuality died before the apparent time of his or her death, and thus the window of opportunity for the Dark One to secure that soul for transmigration is gone before the Dark One can know that the soul must be secured unless the amount of balefire used is very small. Remember that the more balefire is used, the further back the target's thread is burned out of the Pattern.

    After the soul is secured, then a suitable body must be acquired and stripped of the (former) owner's memory and soul to make way for the favored one. By the way, what constitutes a suitable body from the Dark One's perspective is not that of the recipient. Certainly Aginor would never have chosen to be reincarnated in his, shall we say, less than imposing body, nor would the womanizing Balthamel have chosen to be reincarnated as a beautiful woman. It was only chance that Moridin ended up in a body that is young, fairly good looking and physically imposing. Those things simply don't matter to the Dark One. But the body has to be basically healthy and sound, and neither too young nor too old. After all, the Dark One wants his servants to be effective, and a body that meets those basic requirements is more desirable than one that doesn't. Since there is no stockpile of such bodies, the only way for someone to die and immediately be reincarnated would be a matter of pure chance. That is, the death occurred when a suitable body was on hand for some other reason.

    There are a few other limits and constraints, but I won't go into them here, since I may want to use them in the books, and I would rather they come as a surprise if I do.

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  • 2

    Interview: Apr 20th, 2004

    Week 15 Question

    What does the Dark One view as the worst punishment he can inflict on his minions: Killing them as painfully as possible? Balefire? Mindtrap? Being continually resurrected to suffer at his hand for eternity? Something we haven't seen yet?

    Robert Jordan

    The Dark One doesn't care about his minions sufficiently to invest much time in their punishment except as it serves to correct their behavior or as object lesson to others, nor is there much in the way of gradation. Simple failure and outright betrayal might be punished equally, or one might result in death and the other in becoming an object lesson or in something else. (The mindtrap, by the way, could be called an object lesson only to the one so trapped; remember, none of the Forsaken know who is mindtrapped except Moridin and those who are trapped.) The decision, death or object lesson or something else, normally would be simply a matter of whether or not he believed there was any point to an object lesson and/or whether or not he felt there was really any further use in the individual. Or, for that matter, made for reasons unknowable to a human mind. Remember, the Dark One is NOT human and thinking of him in human terms just doesn't work.

    But he also operates under a constraint that did not exist in the Age of Legends. At that time, about 3% of the population could learn to channel to some extent, though not all chose to—the training program took time, and being able to channel carried with it certain obligations that not everyone wanted to undertake—but that still meant there were, at a minimum, hundreds of thousands of people in the world who could channel, and more likely millions. A large pool of possible recruits. Break a tool or decide it isn't working right and throw it out, because there is an endless supply of similar tools waiting on the shelf. That might be said to have been his attitude. In the here-and-now of the books, that figure is about 1%, and of that 1%, very, very few have any idea that they could learn to channel, much less have any training at all. Here-and-now, the pool of possible recruits is tiny.

    Also, while the Forsaken themselves have realized that these primitives have discovered how to do things with the Power that they themselves cannot, or perhaps can once they learn how but never dreamed of doing until they found that the weaves existed here-and-now, they still think of people in the here-and-now as primitives, and their attitudes filter through to the Dark One, who believes that his people from the age of Legends are in all practical ways better—for which read better trained, more capable, and thus better able to serve him efficiently and effectively—than the people of the present time. And he is right. In a way. They are certainly better trained, with a much wider knowledge, at least in some areas. Some of their skills are absolutely useless in the society they are forced to live in. Aginor was a genius in biology and genetics, but in this world, he had no way to make the tools to make the tools to make the tools.... Well, you get the idea. Pity the poor chip designer dropped into the seventeenth century.

    In any event, the Dark One tries to conserve his resources, using and reusing those he might have killed himself, or ordered killed, in a time where there were thousands to equal them.

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  • 3

    Interview: Jan 25th, 2005

    Week 6 Question

    How were the Gholams made? Were they created or bred like the Trollocs? How exactly are they controlled if they are immune to the One Power?

    Robert Jordan

    The gholam—singular and plural are the same—were created, not bred. Supposedly their creation involved making them so that they would be obedient to the Chosen, whoever they might be at any given time. This was an attempt at copying something that had turned up in Myrddraal, which seem incapable of disobeying one of the Chosen, possibly because of the use of the True Power in creation of the Trollocs, the parent stock of the Myrddraal. Even Aginor, who created the Trollocs, and thus indirectly the Myrddraal, was uncertain about the actual cause. (Becoming one of the Forsaken involves receiving a mark from the Dark One in return for your oaths; this mark is invisible and cannot be sensed by another human being, even another of the Forsaken, but it can be by certain non-human creatures, including Myrddraal and Draghkar among others. This may play a part in the Myrddraal's obedience but doesn't explain it completely.) This element in gholam has some flaws, however, as we have seen in a small measure. In any case, if I were you, I wouldn't try giving orders to a gholam unless I were one of the Forsaken.

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  • 4

    Interview: Jan 25th, 2005

    Week 14 Question

    If the Forsaken were sealed away in Shayol Ghul since the Age of Legends, with no contact with the outside world, wouldn't they be speaking the Old Tongue when they woke back up? How did they learn the Common Tongue?

    Robert Jordan

    They still do speak the Old Tongue among themselves, but the first two who were freed, Aginor and Balthamel, had been held very near to the edge of the sealing, the reason they were so visibly affected and twisted while the rest came out whole and healthy, and they were very much aware of what had gone on in the world outside. You might say they had floated in limbo while watching three thousand plus years roll by, with the ability to zoom in. That is probably the only reason they didn't emerge entirely mad. In truth, those two have a much better understanding of the current world than any of the others because they watched it forming. They don't have a complete knowledge, because they couldn't see and hear everything at once, but they have an overview that is unavailable to any of the others, excepting Ishamael to a lesser extent. But then, he's a special case.

    For the rest (aside from Ishamael), who spend those thousands of years in a dreamless sleep, the language spoken "here and now" was derived from the Old Tongue. I've heard the analogy used of a well-educated, highly intelligent citizen of ancient Rome needing to learn modern Italian. It would hardly be a slam-dunk, but he or she would have the roots of the language already. In the case of the Forsaken, the task is actually easier than that of the ancient Roman, since modern Italian is a more complex language than Latin, while the Old Tongue, as I have said time and again, is more complex and nuanced than the language of "today."

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  • 5

    Interview: Jan 25th, 2005

    Week 20 Question (LordJuss)

    Why was Aginor so interested in the Eye of the World? He could channel clean saidin anyway so it shouldn't have been an issue?

    Robert Jordan

    He was able to channel clean saidin, true, but only through the "filter" which had been provided by the Dark One just a short time previously, which meant the Dark One would be aware of him channeling wherever he was. Remember, Aginor was the creator of the Trollocs; he is quite able to reason things out clearly, at least in a scientific sense. Also, he wasn't certain whether or not the Dark One also would know what he was doing when he channeled, too. For someone as secretive, competitive, and generally untrustworthy as the one of the Forsaken, the Eye of the World amounted to a valuable asset if it could be secured. To put it simply, Aginor saw a means of channeling without the Dark One looking over his shoulder, and maybe a way to increase his own power at the expense of those who didn't have that advantage. Balthamel might well have been for the long drop, administered by Aginor, if things hadn't worked out differently.

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  • 6

    Interview: Jul 19th, 2005

    Week 21 Question

    One thing that's always confused me is just why Dashiva/Osan'gar chose to attack Rand (with the turncoat Asha'man) when he did. The last time we saw Rand with Dashiva before that was when they went together (with Flinn, Hopwil and Morr) to confront Cadsuane, and there didn't seem to be any one particular incident that would "set him off."

    Robert Jordan

    Partly this was guilty conscience working. Even people who don't have a conscience can have a guilty conscience, the sudden conviction—as when Rand came on Dashiva and the others—that somebody knows what they are up to. Add to this that Dashiva was plain getting tired of trailing around after Rand, taking orders. He's one of the Chosen, and the Dark One reclaimed him from death, which is really good, but he's been stuck in a decidedly second-rate body and stuck spying on Rand, fetching and carrying like a servant as he sees it, with hardly even an opportunity to put a spoke in Rand's wheels except in very minor ways. How much better if Rand simply died.

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  • 7

    Interview: 2010

    Austin Moore (30 July 2010)

    Who would you say is your favorite Forsaken? And that's coming from you as a fan more than you as the writer.

    Brandon Sanderson (30 July 2010)

    Hmm... Ishamael/Moridin.

    AUSTIN MOORE

    Who's second strongest Forsaken after Moridin? Some say Demandred some say Aginor. Did RJ say in his notes?

    BRANDON SANDERSON (1 AUGUST)

    It IS in the notes, very explicitly. As for your answer...I'll see if we can get that in the Encyclopedia.

    Footnote

    The BWB says that Aginor was second-strongest of the male Forsaken. It also implies that Demandred is somewhat lower on the list than some fans expect, but since the Forsaken are all very close, it probably doesn't make as big a difference as some imagine.

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  • 8

    Interview: 2010

    Azral Hanan (11 August 2010)

    Are the Chosen aware of Taim's existence? They never address him even in their thoughts.

    Brandon Sanderson (11 August 2010)

    RAFO. (You totally knew I was going to do that.)

    Footnote

    In Kisman's POV (WH 22) we learn that Demandred ordered the renegades to kill Rand, but not to tell anyone of the order, including Taim. And of course, we know that Aginor/Osan'gar/Dashiva was aware of Taim.

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  • 9

    Interview: Oct 25th, 1994

    Question

    Can the Power really be used to make you different? [This arose as part of a discussion of Illusion ("Mirror of Mists" is an old name for the same thing).]

    Robert Jordan

    Illusion is illusion. Doesn't fool the sense of touch, so you have to be really subtle (such as Moghedien's disguise) to avoid detection.

    Question

    So Sammael couldn't make himself taller?

    Robert Jordan

    He could make himself look taller, but he's not interested in looking taller. He wants to be taller. Besides, any sufficiently experienced man would be able to tell that it was illusion.

    Question

    So the Power really isn't capable of genetic reconstruction? (Like, for example, making you taller.)

    Robert Jordan

    Maybe, in the Age of Legends, someone might have been able to pull it off, if they were really skilled. Might have.

    Question

    Like Aginor? He seemed to be the expert among the Forsaken on that.

    Robert Jordan

    Aginor was d**n good, but he wasn't that good.

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  • 10

    Interview: 2011

    Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)

    Luckers (10 January 2011)

    I wonder if Whitebridge is made of spinglass. Does anyone have an answer?

    TEREZ

    I always took 'spinglass' to be a WoT way of saying 'spun glass'. Very fragile. Also...

    TEREZ

    'The man opened his mouth to protest as citizens always did; they seemed to think Aiel were made of spinglass'.

    TEREZ

    Obviously fragile is what he's getting at. Now, if you could do it like cuendillar...that's different.

    TEREZ

    Per Moghedien I get the impression there are many forms of cuendillar. Maybe iron is easiest.

    LUCKERS

    That's a good point—I missed the spinglass = fragile reference. As for cuendillar... perhaps.

    LUCKERS

    There is an argument in the same vein towards Callandor being cuendillar.

    TEREZ

    Well, people argued Callandor=cuendillar because it stopped balefire. But if Perrin can do it... :)

    LUCKERS

    There was also Osan'gar's comment during the cleansing that though the Choedan Kal would be destroyed...

    LUCKERS

    ... he'd still have Callandor. Of course he could have meant to balefire Rand and attack Narishma. Still, weird.

    KRIT PETTY

    Callandor is the most powerful sa'angreal without the Choedan Kal. He might just be noting the fact.

    LUCKERS

    It's the expectation that he would have Callandor after he balefired the hill which is significant.

    TEREZ

    He didn't say he was going to balefire the whole hill. Elza got his hill, though. ;)

    TEREZ

    Strongest Rand could manage with fat man was man-thick. He could sweep it, but it's not necessary.

    LUCKERS

    I did make that point, but it's weird, risking Narishma's response to the attack.

    LUCKERS

    Rand was distracted, why not kill Narishma first, then Rand. Also Osan'gar links the balefire to...

    LUCKERS

    ... Rand's death—"But still, he could take Callandor after al'Thor was dead."—as if it's a result.

    TEREZ

    I read it as him seeing Rand as the only real threat.

    LUCKERS

    Which is weird, in itself. Callandor circle responding to reversed webs—a scary, and impossible thing for someone from the Age of Legends.

    TEREZ

    True, but he might have figured out the ter'angreal thing like Demandred, and he was at point blank range (for balefire).

    RUTH HINCKLEY

    So if the cuendillar Egwene makes is white, why are the seals half black? Saidin-made? Different type of cuendillar?

    TEREZ

    re: black/white, I always figured this was why Elayne couldn't get the colors right with the stone ring (no man).

    Brandon Sanderson (10 January 2011)

    @WoTLuckers @Lironah @Terez27 Now that's an interesting conversation. Re: cuendillar.

    TEREZ

    lol, now I get to catalog the whole conversation because Brandon said it was interesting.

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  • 11

    Interview: Oct 12th, 1996

    Robert Jordan

    Someone asked Jordan about the 'gars, and mentioned that he'd seen theories that Lanfear was one of the 'gars. I was expecting a RAFO, but RJ gave the guy a disgusted look, and said that "No, Osan'gar and Aran'gar are Aginor and Balthamel." The guy said (I'm paraphrasing here), "You're confirming this, and not hinting about it?" RJ replied (more paraphrasing), "I'm confirming. After all, it's pretty obvious in the books that it's those two. After all, that's what Aginor thought was so funny; Balthamel, the lecher, was stuck in a female body." Jordan then went on to give the standard disclaimer that a lot of the clues are already in the books, and reasonably intelligent people should be able to figure a lot of this out. His job, he said, was to make sure you're still guessing about some stuff at the end of the story.

    It's fairly safe to say that this was Jordan's version of thwacking the guy with a clue stick...

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  • 12

    Interview: Oct 12th, 1996

    Mike Lawson

    Also, there's another (non-FAQ-related) note concerning the pre-Bore Age of Legends...

    Robert Jordan

    RJ had mentioned (in response to another question) that what the characters believe does not make it so (Moiraine's statements were used as an example), so I asked whether the pre-Bore Age of Legends was the Utopia that the characters believed it to be. His reply is paraphrased below:

    Compared to their current world, it certainly would be a utopia. However, that doesn't mean that it wasn't perfect. Of course, outbreaks of diseases were kept to a minimum, but it and other disasters of that ilk still occurred. Evil still existed, as well.

    The Forsaken, for example, weren't exactly a stellar bunch to begin with. Semirhage, for example, was a sadist. (I'll skip his description of what a sadist is.) She went into her profession (the equivalent of a surgeon) because it provided an outlet for her sadism. (He then cited some studies that showed that there were more people with sadist tendencies in the medical profession, and surgeons in particular, to support his point.) Aginor (whom he said after some prompting had several elements of the classic mad scientist type) was a biological scientist who never considered the consequences of his actions. Aginor would say, "I wonder what would happen if I took the ebola virus and altered it to be an airborne virus." He'd go ahead and do just that, all without realizing he'd be creating a potentially unstoppable plague. All Aginor would reply to that was, "Hmm. Interesting." (Jordan then mentioned Aginor's creation of the Trollocs, their defects, "It was strong, big, tough to kill, and...... stupid," and that it was the birth of the first Myrddraal that saved the Trollocs from being a complete failure.)

    Even back in the Age of Legends, regular, ordinary folks could do some pretty nasty things. He then cited a study about a small town of ordinary Germans in WWII who did some pretty horrific things (I believe he was referring to the book "Hitler's Willing Executioners").

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  • 13

    Interview: Oct 12th, 1996

    Robert Jordan

    The Two *gars

    RJ admitted outright that they were Aginor and Balthamel, and that Aginor was the male and Balthamel was the woman. I still feel that Aginor describing himself as "helping" make the Trollocs is not consistent, but hey, I didn't write the books. When I asked him if he was confirming their IDs, RJ said (in a slightly tired tone), "I've never denied it." This was rather surprising to me, to say the least.

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  • 14

    Interview: Oct 9th, 1996

    Question

    Have we seen Osan'gar anywhere else since his first appearance? (No doubt a RAFO)

    Robert Jordan

    RAFO.

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  • 15

    Interview: Oct 9th, 1996

    Question

    Is Dashiva Osan'gar?

    Robert Jordan

    RAFO.

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  • 16

    Interview: Aug 27th, 1999

    Robert Jordan

    I asked him about Aginor getting younger at the end of The Eye of the World, and he said 'no, he doesn't get younger, he dies'. So I actually looked up the reference and read it to him. He said 'oh, that,' and then went on to explain that it is actually the True Power, not the saidin from the Eye, that rejuvenates him. He did describe the saidin in the Eye as a 'mother-lode', however, I didn't think to ask him what he meant by that until I was in the car going home. I instead asked him whether the True Power was the source of the Forsaken's immortality. He said: yes.

    (LATER)


    MARK ERIKSON

    Initially I asked 'In the end of Eye of the World, when Rand is fighting Aginor, why did Aginor get younger?'

    ROBERT JORDAN

    RJ replied 'He didn't, he died there. Do you mean the resurrection? He and Balthamel got resurrected in Lord of Chaos.'

    MARK ERIKSON

    I said 'I know that, but....' and couldn't think of anything else. I thought I must have read that part wrong, so while other people were having their books signed, I went through the book and found the line, and read it to him.

    ROBERT JORDAN

    RJ said 'Oh that. That's actually the power of the Dark One rejuvenating him,' and went on to basically explain what the True Power is, like I was an idiot.

    MARK ERIKSON

    So then I said 'So is the True Power the source of their immortality?'

    ROBERT JORDAN

    And he said 'Effectively, yes.'

    Footnote

    Some fans picked this line of questioning up in Budapest in 2003, and RJ said that the Forsaken are not actually immortal; they have merely been promised immortality after the Day of Return. RJ probably meant that the True Power is what kept them alive all the years they were sealed in the Bore.

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  • 17

    Interview: Aug 27th, 1999

    Robert Jordan

    I'm fairly sure he's done this before, but he said Aginor and Balthamel are Aran'gar and Osan'gar, and he also said that Terry Goodkind actually uses WOT as inspiration, instead of going to a historical source. He sounded serious.

    Finally, he also recommended several authors, but said that the guy who wrote Cryptonomicon was really good.

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  • 18

    Interview: Apr 6th, 2001

    Vanin

    What did Aginor mean in The Eye of the World when pointing towards Mat and saying something about old history, old friend, old enemy?

    Robert Jordan

    RAFO you horsethief!

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  • 19

    Interview: Apr, 2003

    Budapest Q&A (Verbatim)

    Mort

    [something about the Forsaken]

    Robert Jordan

    Essentially learned the local language.

    Mort

    They just got free and learned the local language in a few weeks or so.

    Robert Jordan

    A little more than a few weeks.

    Mort

    Wow...That's impressive! What about the first and second that were let loose?

    Robert Jordan

    They were very near the surface. It's one of the reasons for the effects on them. They were for three thousand years aware—not in a sleep like the others; aware—and more aware of what has happened in the world. And because of the way the Bore works... See, the Bore is not located at Shayol Ghul. Shayol Ghul is simply the place where the Bore is most easily sensed. The Bore is everywhere, because of the nature of the universe. And those two guys, in effect, spent the last three thousand years in a state of feeling that they had no body—they certainly had no ability to move—that they were simply trapped minds, but aware and drifting over the face of the earth, able to hear people, able to see what was happening in one area or another. They could speak the language when they came out.

    Mort

    You are talking about Aginor and Balthamel now.

    Robert Jordan

    Yeah.

    Mort

    And Ishamael as well?

    Robert Jordan

    Ishamael is a different case. Read and find out.

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  • 20

    Interview: Apr, 2003

    Budapest Q&A (Verbatim)

    Question

    Are the Forsaken defined by being allowed to tap the True True Power?

    Robert Jordan

    No, not necessarily. They are, but it takes more than that, and they may be denied it. You see there were many more than thirteen Chosen at the time of the Breaking of the World. At the time of the sealing, there were more, and they died. The reason these thirteen lived was that they were trapped and, except for Balthamel and Aginor, sealed away in large extent from the effects of time, as if they were put in suspended animation. The others who were not there at this conference died.

    Question

    May I ask you what makes a Forsaken Forsaken, or Chosen?

    Robert Jordan

    Well, many people had sworn their souls to the Dark One. To be one of the Chosen, is to be someone who is recognized by the Dark One as having enough potential to be brought to Shayol Ghul to swear this oath personally, as close to being in the presence of the Dark One as is possible, with the prison partially sealed up.

    Question

    Is it just a coincidence that all those thirteen who survived can channel?

    Robert Jordan

    Oh, no that’s no coincidence, because if you weren’t able to channel, you weren’t going to get into this game at all.

    Question

    Ah. [mumble] cannot channel?

    Robert Jordan

    Yes, but somebody has to be cannon fodder.

    Question

    Yeah...poor Mat and poor Perrin.

    Robert Jordan

    Hmm, well, if they wanted to be Forsaken, yes.

    Question

    Yeah...I hope they’re not gonna be Forsaken.

    Robert Jordan

    Read and find out.

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  • 21

    Interview: Sep 3rd, 2005

    Sara

    When out of the three thousand year sleep, were the Forsaken still wearing the clothes from the time they were imprisoned?

    Robert Jordan

    Yes, they were.

    Sara

    How does the process of waking up work, and were they conscious of it happening to them and or the other Forsaken?

    Robert Jordan

    They were conscious of waking up, but remember that Lanfear said they were in a sleep so deep they were trapped so deep, that they were denied even dreams. Most of them were in fact in suspended animation. Balthamel and Aginor, very close to the surface, were not, which is why they were so wasted when they are seen, and why they have a certain degree of madness as well. The others came out unaged, looking exactly as they did, but Aginor and Balthamel although wearing the clothes they wore, and the mask was an original he was wearing it when he went in, they were further wasted, you might say, preserved by being sealed in the Bore, but close enough to the surface that they were aware of things going on outside.

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    Interview: Sep 2nd, 2005

    Isabel

    A question from me again (sometimes me with my horrible accent has to repeat the question a few times, for him to get it). Although if I remember correctly it was Aan'allein's question.

    How did Aginor manage to sense the Shadar Logoth dagger in the The Eye of the World?

    Robert Jordan

    That has to do with the end of Winter's Heart. How many of you have read it?

    (everyone but one raising their hands; well at least after asking who has not read it)

    It's an effect of resonance. The dagger is the same evil as the evil of Shadar Logoth. You can say it's diametrically opposite to the taint, that's the evil on saidin. Rand, at one point in Shadar Logoth, feels them pulsing with each other. And especially in the wounds on his side. There is a resonance created. A positive and negative pulse of evil, you might say.

    Isabel

    So it doesn't require actual channeling?

    Robert Jordan

    No, but you have to be close to it. It's not something you can sense from a close distance use to track Padan Fain down.

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    Interview: Oct 5th, 2005

    Robert Jordan

    For Dracos, the Forsaken could not talk to one another, not even Balthamel and Aginor, who were trapped near the surface and at least intermittently conscious and aware what was happening in the world. You might say that being trapped where they were, in a Bore that existed everywhere at once, allowed them to see the whole world. But for the others, it was a deep and dreamless sleep. Even for Ishamael, except when he was spun out periodically. When thinking about the Forsaken, you might factor in the effects of dream deprivation.

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  • 24

    Interview: Nov 6th, 2010

    Brandon Sanderson

    Rand destroyed Aginor—Brandon is 90% sure of this fact.

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    Interview: Apr 17th, 2011

    blindillusion

    Did Aginor have anything to do with creating the Nym?

    Brandon Sanderson

    Not that I know of. I can MAFO that, but I'm like 95% sure on that.

    Harriet McDougal Rigney

    The Green Man? No...he was good!

    Terez

    You know, that's what I said to him last night, and then he was like, 'Well, you know, before the Bore was drilled, you know...that might have been what he was doing.' Because, you know, he had to get his experience in bioengineering somewhere.

    Brandon Sanderson

    Yeah...

    blindillusion

    Yeah, where did he get his start?

    Brandon Sanderson

    It is a good question, but I don't think so. I really don't. But, if you really want me to go to the notes and search it out, I will.

    blindillusion

    That works for me. Thank you very much.

    Maria Simons

    A quick search turned up nothing, I'm afraid. I'll try to remember to keep my eyes open for it.

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    Interview: Apr 17th, 2011

    Terez

    How does Demandred compare in strength to Moridin and Aginor? Sammael?

    Brandon Sanderson

    Um...I have to have the list in front of me for that one.

    Terez

    Ahh.

    Brandon Sanderson

    Sorry, Terez.

    Terez

    That's okay.

    Brandon Sanderson

    I really want to just post that for people, because so many people ask about it...

    Terez

    Right, they're like really obsessed with it at rafo.com....

    Brandon Sanderson

    Yeah, they're very obsessed with it, and the thing is, a lot of them are really close, and so it's a matter of a few points on Jim's scale...

    Terez

    Yeah, I figured, like what you were saying earlier about how they were Chosen because their talents...

    Brandon Sanderson

    Yeah.

    Terez

    ...obviously they're all within...

    Brandon Sanderson

    ...yeah. They're all awesome. And so, you know, you couldn't be a Forsaken simply for being awesome in the Power. It's like you had to be awesome at the Power, and be awesome at other stuff.

    Terez

    Well, I mean...that's what they said about Balthamel, that that was the only reason he was one of them, was that he was so strong...

    Brandon Sanderson

    Yeah....

    Terez

    But, you know, obviously there was something else going on there...

    Brandon Sanderson

    Yeah. [I think he was already looking at the next (last) question at this point because we were nearing the airport terminal.]

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    Interview: 2006

    Forsaken Events

    Robert Jordan

    None of the Forsaken know that Osan'gar (Corlan Dashiva) is dead, but they know he's vanished. They are pretty much sure that Sammael is dead, because he isn't the type to remain in hiding, but think Asmodean might well be hiding out until he can figure a way to return safely. They know that Rahvin and Be'lal are dead, though some at least suspect reincarnation as Aran'gar and Osan'gar. Most have worked out that Moridin is Ishamael.

    Footnote

    Aran'gar and Osan'gar are Balthamel and Aginor transmigrated, respectively. Most of the Forsaken we've had in POV seem to have figured that out.

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    Interview: Sep 22nd, 2012

    Question

    Why is Dashiva never resurrected? He was killed with a ball of fire by Elza, not balefire....

    Brandon Sanderson

    Yes, I know.

    Loialson

    Why is he dead?

    Brandon Sanderson

    Robert Jordan once said that res...transmigrating a soul had not just to do with the way that they were killed but the time and...not necessarily just a weave, but why and how. [Technically, where and how.] I am not going to delve too much into transmigration. Robert Jordan did speak on these sorts of things. And so, the Dark One also might not think that the person was an asset worth bringing back.

    Loialson

    Dashiva kinda sucks.

    Brandon Sanderson

    I'm not gonna say, but those are all factors in this.

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    Interview: Apr 20th, 2013

    Terez

    Brandon has said that Rand killed Aginor. (It was also in the BWB.) I think he was kind of iffy on it, but I tended to think that Rand killed him; some people say that Aginor overdosed, but I always thought that it was Rand taking the Power of the Eye from him that killed him, you know? It's like the shock of having it taken away...do you know?

    Maria Simons

    I don't know. I always thought it was Rand too, but I don't know.

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    Interview: Apr 20th, 2013

    Terez

    Why wasn't Osan'gar given another chance, since he wasn't killed by balefire?

    Maria Simons

    I think he had just been so....kind of useless. Why bother? You know...you don't get "three times, you're out"; it's "two times, you're out", you know?

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