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  • 1

    Interview: 2011

    Twitter 2011 (WoT) (Verbatim)

    jwiedow (7 January 2011)

    I have been thinking about the Aes Sedai First Oath on the oath road "Speak no word that is not true"...

    JWIEDOW

    How do they get around that oath when telling others a different name; Moraine=Mistress Alys?

    JWIEDOW

    Has anyone done a theory or a blog on the use of names and the oaths?

    TEREZ

    They say 'you may call me Mistress Alys'. It's not a lie unless she says 'My name is...' which she doesn't.

    JWIEDOW

    I am trying to remember if they are all that way which is why I brought it up.

    Brandon Sanderson (7 January 2011)

    I don't know. If you really name yourself that, then you might be able to say it. Depends on internal rationalization.

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    It's easy to say "I'm called Alys" because she is. You can even say "My name is Alys" if you have named yourself that.

    BRANDON SANDERSON

    Otherwise, a Sister could never go by a nickname, a different name than she'd chosen for herself, etc.

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  • 2

    Interview: Apr 5th, 1996

    Robert Jordan

    The Aes Sedai who beat Rand in Lord of Chaos did not necessarily violate the Three Oaths. Jordan explained that the Three Oaths are bound by literal intent and perception. He said that the Aes Sedai could have considered the beatings a just punishment rather than the use of a weapon. He also suggested that not everything that harms you need be considered a weapon. I think he gave the example of a whip used lightly not considered a weapon, versus a whip used to flay skin being considered a weapon. On the subject of the first Oath ("to speak no word that is untrue"), Jordan said that Aes Sedai can say something they believe to be true or something they don't mean literally. As an example of the latter, an Aes Sedai can employ hyperbole and say something like, "I'm going to tie your ears over your head," when she means to do no such thing.

    FOOTNOTEóBILL GARRETT

    My Comment: I should also point out that at least two of the women who beat Rand are people we know to belong to the Black Ajah. On page 683hb (in Lord of Chaos), it is said that only Galina, Erian, and Katerine beat Rand more than once. We know that Galina and Katerine are Black Ajah, so they aren't bound by the Oaths anyway. Erian is the Aes Sedai whose two Warders Rand killed, so maybe she found some way to justify her punishment of Rand under the Three Oaths. I don't know who else beat Rand (i.e., who beat him only once); the book may say, but I can't find a quote.

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  • 3

    Interview: Apr 5th, 1996

    Robert Jordan

    The oaths: They are quite subjective; if an Aes Sedai believes she is not lying, then the Oath doesn't stop her. So, that is what was going on in the torturing part of Lord of Chaos. It depends on the psychology of the individual. It's like spanking a naughty child. Some people regard that as child abuse; some people regard it as reasonable punishment.

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  • 4

    Interview: Jun 28th, 1997

    Kjell

    Would making all Aes Sedai reswear the Three Oaths on an Oath Rod, and then asking them, reveal if they are Black Ajah? (It should...)

    Robert Jordan

    There are certain difficulties with this. It might answer the question but how many sisters do you think will meekly submit to being asked to do such a thing? Being asked to do it is in effect an accusation.

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  • 5

    Interview: Sep 3rd, 2005

    Question

    Quoting from Tamra in New Spring, "You will tell no one about this, not for any reason, if necessary lie, even to a sister, Gitara died without speaking, do you understand me?" How is it that Tamra can tell Moiraine and Siuan that Gitara died without speaking, when she knows full well that she did speak?

    Robert Jordan

    It's simple. It is part of her instructions. There are a lot, thousands of loop holes, about that thou will speak no word that is not true. This is part of her instructions, she is telling them what they are to say. She is not saying something she believes, and thus she was able to say it.

    Question

    I have a follow up to a question you just answered. Based on the Oaths, if a sister asked them, if they were instructed, as to what they have to say, would they be able to say it after taking the Oaths?

    Robert Jordan

    After taking the Oaths they would find it hard to say, even with instructions, they might not be able to say it at all, because they know it is a lie. That is the key you can't knowingly tell a lie.

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  • 6

    Interview: Jan 20th, 2006

    Robert Jordan

    For Majsju, the oath against lying does leave room for sarcasm. It is intent and result that matter. No sister can intentionally speak an untruth either with the intent of passing on false information or with the belief that false information might be passed on. Thus the careful slicing and dicing of words. But if someone were to hold up a piece of white cloth and ask whether it was black or white, someone who had sworn the Three Oaths would be capable of saying that it was black as a matter of sarcasm. But not if, for example, the person asking the question was blind and thus might well take the statement for truth rather than sarcasm.

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  • 7

    Interview: Oct 27th, 2009

    Question

    Was Ishamael partially, or was he responsible for the initiation of the Three Oaths? Was he a part of what brought them about?

    Brandon Sanderson

    Thatís a MAFO. Type that one out. Thatís a MAFO.

    MARIA SIMONS (VIA LUCKERS)

    No. What is now the second oath (To make no weapon with which one man may kill another) was the first one that the Aes Sedai adopted. ďIt grew from an impulse within the Aes Sedai themselves coming from tales passed down regarding the War of the Shadow. The other two oaths certainly grew out of the suspicion of ordinary people towards these Aes Sedai.Ē (Thatís a quote from the notes, btw). Sometimes things happen without an agent of the Dark Oneís involvement, and sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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  • 8

    Interview: Nov 11th, 2009

    Question

    Is Mesaana still in the Tower?

    Brandon Sanderson

    Egwene makes some deductions about this at the end of the book. Egwene is not incorrect.

    Question

    She could swear that she's not a Darkfriend on the Oath Rod, right?

    Brandon Sanderson

    As long as she believed it to be true. Every remaining Aes Sedai in the Tower has retaken the Three Oaths. You should be thinking about ways to defeat the Oath Rod. There is a way to do it.

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  • 9

    Interview: Dec 3rd, 2016

    AndrewHB

    Is Niccolo Machiavelli's political theory, the ends justify the means, incompatible with the Knights Radiants' First Oath?

    Brandon Sanderson

    No. Although many of the Orders of KRs would find Machiavelli's theory that the ends justify the means incompatible with additional Oaths and/or values of that Order, there are some Orders who could accept a Machiavellian. Brandon said that the Skybreakers where a Machiavellian could find a home.

    Question

    As Brandon was signing my books, I asked if the Elsecallers would also accept a Machiavellian.

    Brandon Sanderson

    Yes.

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