art by Darrell K. Sweet

Theoryland Resources

WoT Interview Search

Search the most comprehensive database of interviews and book signings from Robert Jordan, Brandon Sanderson and the rest of Team Jordan.

Wheel of Time News

An Hour With Harriet

2012-04-30: I had the great pleasure of speaking with Harriet McDougal Rigney about her life. She's an amazing talent and person and it will take you less than an hour to agree.

The Bell Tolls

2012-04-24: Some thoughts I had during JordanCon4 and the upcoming conclusion of "The Wheel of Time."

Theoryland Community

Members: 7653

Logged In (0):

Newest Members:johnroserking, petermorris, johnadanbvv, AndrewHB, jofwu, Salemcat1, Dhakatimesnews, amazingz, Sasooner, Hasib123,

Theoryland Tweets

Theories

Home | Index | Archives | Help

laboration

by Jorge Ortiz: 2000-03-22 | 3 out of 10 (4 votes)

Before Winter's Heart - Archive Only: Who is Cyndane?

Ok, this theory just elaborates on all previous theories, and adds a few points.

First, I believe Lanfear was killed by Moiraine in Finnland. When Moiraine regains conciousness after being thrown about, and sees Rand on his knees and Lanfear holding the bracelet angreal. Moiraine left the bracelet angreal lying around near the foot of the twisted doorway. Aes Sedai NEVER do anything without a purpose, much less a Blue. When getting to her feet she supresses a small bubble of hope, which might indicate she saw something that came after the twisted doorway at Rhuidean. She jumps at Lanfear and claws the bracelet away from her. Severing Lanfear's contact from saidar like that would very likely stun her, especially since the attack came from nowhere, and Lanfear might even get stilled, loosing saidar like that. So a Finnland duel would be Moiraine with angreal vs. Lanfear. I'd say it would be a close call, depending on the strength of the angreal. So Moiraine might kill Lanfear, Lanfear might be killed as an exacted price from the finn's, or she could suffer numerous other fates. Imagine what two women channeling huge amounts of saidar in Finnland could do... So Lanfear is killed.

Now, the game of Sha'rah was a good point made by Minch. Moridin mentions only 9 people living know how to play it. Moridin, Demandred, Mesaana, Semirhage, Graendal, Moghedien, Aran'gar (Belthamel), Osan'gar (Aginor). That makes 8. The DO believes Sammael dead, or at least he wants Demandred to think so, and if he wants Demandred to think Sammael is dead, why not make Moridin think he is dead too? Since Cyndane is certainly stronger than Moghedien and Graendal, she has to be from the AoL, or someone we don't know about. I doubt RJ would introduce yet another major character so late in the series. Since Cyndane channels saidar, her soul is female, which leaves only Lanfear as the possible victim of the mindtrap and a 'Last Chance'.

Now, Tamyrlin seems seems to think Lanfear doesn't deserve a mindtrap in the eyes of the DO. Here's my argument: What happened at the end of tFoH? Lanfear tried to kill Rand. What happened in the prologue to LoC? The DO says, 'Let the Lord of Chaos rule.' Now, by the time the DO gives an explicit command to all of his Chosen, he has pondered the idea for a while. There isn't a large time gap between the end of tFoH and the begginng of LoC. NO ONE ruins the DO plans, and ruining them, even trying to, is severly punished. Ignorance is not an excuse. Or maybe she killed Asmodean, and the DO had plans for him. Besides, in the words of the DO, 'My Chosen are the strongest. My Chosen do not fail.' His Chosen are certainly not killed by half-trained girls that bind themselves like criminals calling themselves Aes Sedai. Besides, Lanfear was always over ambitious, she told Rand he and she could destroy the DO with the huge sa'angreal's access ter'angreal. Who knows where the DO has his eyes-and-ears, in your mind, maybe.
You cannot rate theories without first logging in. Please log in.

Comments

1

Tamyrlin: 2000-03-22

Where this logic fails is with the Ishamael/Moridin link. Ishamael almost killed Rand purposefully many times. And then you would have to believe that the DO was speaking about Rand when he said "Lord of Chaos", because chaos would abound without Rand in the way. So I still don't believe.

2

Queklain: 2000-03-25

Reply to Tamyrlin's Response:

The Moridin/Ishamael logic doesn't really fail in Jorge's theory, If you think about it. Although Ishamael seemed as though he wished to kill Rand, what did he really accomplish? He CRIPPLED Rand, and infested him with evil. Maybe the evil that's in his old wound is part of what's making him go bonkers, or slowly corrupting him?

3

Tamyrlin: 2000-03-25

But, Jorge was pointing out intent. Lanfear never killed Rand, and she apparently got rid of Moiraine which was good for the bad guys, and Egwene still hasn't fully recovered. Ishamael'e and Lanfear's intent was to kill, but they missed. You still can't use the defense that Lanfear went against the DO's orders. Adding on to the fact that we were never shown a time when Lanfear was given direct orders.