Less than Two Years - The end of Asmodean is near.

[Tamyrlin]

I'm not sure what I will do when Asmodean's killer is finally revealed. There is part of me that wishes the killer would not be given up. I love that this epic series needs has an enduring mystery; why can't it be left alone to span generations of readers? Every question will not be answered, so why answer this one? I would love to hear my grandchildren ponder this same question. I wonder if there is any way to convince Harriet not to reveal the killer, or to simply provide more clues, but not definitive....

[Terez]

Jeeez Tam....out of all the mysteries you'd like your children to ponder....Asmodean? :confused: Seriously...there will be plenty of more interesting loose ends to discuss, I'm sure. :p

[Weird Harold]

Jeeez Tam....out of all the mysteries you'd like your children to ponder....Asmodean? :confused: Seriously...there will be plenty of more interesting loose ends to discuss, I'm sure. :p
I agree, but I also toyed withthe idea of starting an Asmo thred to really annoint this forum with perhaps the ultimate general WOT subject.. :D

[Terez]

The ultimate? Bah! The Apathy faction (http://www.theoryland.com/factions.php?func=4&rec=61) has no shortage of members....even plenty of old-timers with an opinion on who killed him don't really care who killed him. :p

[Tamyrlin]

There are anti-discussion factions! This just proves my point.

[ShadowbaneX]

Yeah, you know, I still don't care. I'm a proud member of the "I don't give a flying leap who killed Asmo" faction (http://www.theoryland.com/factions.php?func=4&rec=61).

[WinespringBrother]

Faction Mem. Champion
Aviendha Killed Asmodean 3 Tamyrlin (10)


Hey, what's this then??? :p

[Dragon Thief]

It was Col. Mustard with the candlestick in the kitchen, fools! ;)

[Davian93]

Graendal did it.

[Ishara]

Ah, but it's not just that Tam doesn't want to let go of the greatest mystery of them all - it's also that he doesn't want to hear the sound of another of his beloved theories dying a little death! :p

[Crispin's Crispian]

Ah, but it's not just that Tam doesn't want to let go of the greatest mystery of them all - it's also that he doesn't want to hear the sound of another of his beloved theories dying a little death! :p

LOL! (No LOL smiley? :()


I don't really understand apathy factions. If you don't care, don't participate. If you have to start a faction about the fact that you don't care, you're not even being apathetic. You went to a hell of a lot of trouble...

Maybe deliberate apathy is what annoys me. I am the Anti-Meh, after all.

[Frenzy]

as the champion of the apathy faction, i'd like to point out that i DON'T participate. i'll debate souls, sparkers, learners, conspiracies, and most anything else until you're blue in the face, but i've picked Asmo's demise as the one thing that annoys the bejeezus out of me.

because you have to draw the line somewhere...

[Dragon]

I'm actually glad that it will be revealed who killed Asmo.

After years of teasing us a bit, I think RJ saw this announced revelation as a last present for his fans, because he knew that Asmo's death was probably the most discussed question, and that the majority wants to have a definite answer.

[Xoduz]

It is because Jordan has so often refused to answer many mysteries, that I happen to agree with your second proposition Tamrylin. I agree that it doesn't have to be answered. Jordan frequently responded to mysteries with the infamous RAFO. Half the fun was going to the signing and asking him questions to get around that phrase.

I feel like I read the books, came to a conclusion, asked him personally, and got a straight answer to my satisfaction.

Unfortunately, our grandchildren will not have that opportunity.

[1Powerslave]

It will be good to get to say "I told you so" to oh so many people here. Cause it was obviously Lanfear.

[caladanbrood]

I want it to be some random character who was never even in the books before... just to f*** with us;)

[Terez]

Too bad - RJ said there was enough evidence in the books to figure it out, so that's not happening. :p

[Crispin's Crispian]

as the champion of the apathy faction, i'd like to point out that i DON'T participate. i'll debate souls, sparkers, learners, conspiracies, and most anything else until you're blue in the face, but i've picked Asmo's demise as the one thing that annoys the bejeezus out of me.

because you have to draw the line somewhere...
So don't call it the apathy faction, call it the "Asmo debates annoy me" faction. Then you can post all you want about how annoying it is that people are posting about it.

:p

[Terez]

Faction members are allowed to debate it if we so desire...the only requirement is that we really not give a shit who killed him. :D

[1Powerslave]

I agree with CC. To much beotching about how annoying it is and how much you don't care for you to be apathetic. It seems like every time there is an Asmo discussion a couple from the "Asmo apathy faction" has to stick a head in to say they don't care. Hehe.

[Davian93]

I agree with CC. To much beotching about how annoying it is and how much you don't care for you to be apathetic. It seems like every time there is an Asmo discussion a couple from the "Asmo apathy faction" has to stick a head in to say they don't care. Hehe.

Graendal did it.

[Zaela Sedai]

RIGHT ON DAV!

[Ozymandias]

Proof that Demandred killed Asmodean, that will quell all further debate!

Read on in shock at this (heretofore) undiscovered, but tell-all, quotation!

TITLE: Lord of Chaos
CHAPTER: Prologue - The First Message
"Rahvin is dead, Great Lord. Yesterday." There was pain. Euphoria too strong became pain quickly. His arms and legs twitched. He was sweating, now. "Lanfear has vanished without a trace, just as Asmodean did. You can thank me for that. And Graendal says Moghedien failed to meet her as they had agreed. Also yesterday, Great Lord. I do not believe in coincidence."

[Terez]

ha ha http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif

[irerancincpkc]

Yeah, it was Lanfear. :D

I don't want the last book to tell us...

[Ozymandias]

What I'm waiting for is the firestorm of accusations and gloating when we find out (if we do). Every WoT board is going to go nuts with people gloating and strutting about picking the right killer... and no one can argue with them.

Being right is the sweetest joy of all. Of course... I put the odds of a straight answer from Sanderson/Jordan at 1/10.

[Xoduz]

There are many factors at play here.

For one, apathy and annoyance are clearly different. Get off the fence already! :D

Second, I disagree with apathy as much as any other faction or non-faction. I believe strongly that Jordan killed off Asmodean for a reason.

If anything, when Asmodean's killer is revealed, we will also know exactly how important Asmodean's really was.

I have predicted that it helped Jordan clear the way for Taim to be introduced to Rand without complication. Many have pointed out in opposition to my theory that there is no way for Taim and Asmodean to have recognized each other. I say play the other side. What if we did know that Taim and Asmodean knew each other beforehand? What if at the beginning of Lord of Chaos we already knew Taim to be a Dreadlord, perhaps even in the inner circle of what is going on in the Shadow. In my view, knowing that or more have would ruined much, if not all, of the plot reguarding the Black Tower.

Thats just my view of course.

Sodas / Xoduz

[Yuri33]

BS will reveal who killed Asmodean, that's confirmed. What isn't confirmed is if it's only going to be in passing mention (in which case I would be disappointed), or if there will be an entire paragraph or two that goes into means\motive\opportunity.

[John Snow]

Apathy faction? About what? And who is this Asmodean of whom you speak?

[John Snow]

"Lanfear has vanished without a trace, just as Asmodean did. You can thank me for that. And Graendal says Moghedien failed to meet her as they had agreed. Also yesterday, Great Lord. I do not believe in coincidence."

Hmmm - so Lanfear and Asmodean have run off together? No, wait, Lanfear's chasing Moiraine around fox/snake land...so Asmodean and Moghedien have run off together.

[GonzoTheGreat]

Moghedien was being led around by the nose (a leash, actually) by Nynaeve.

I say that Demandred did it, but kept it secret from the DO.

[the silent speaker]

If Demandred did it, how could the DO possibly "seem[] to know more about Asmodean than he"?

[GonzoTheGreat]

Good point. Let's ignore that for now, shall we? Otherwise my theory would be dead in the water immediately, and we know that RJ has said no one but Rand could be excluded as a suspect.

[Nazbaque]

My stand is still Lanfear (fits best to the only real clue "You? No!"). I want it revealed in a round about way. Not said right out anywhere but the clues left in AMOL will reveal everything.

[Marie Curie 7]

Good point. Let's ignore that for now, shall we? Otherwise my theory would be dead in the water immediately, and we know that RJ has said no one but Rand could be excluded as a suspect.

Not so! RJ also eliminated Fain (http://theoryland.yuku.com/topic/9912/t/Second-Q-amp-A-Saturday.html):

Question: Would you please name one character who did not kill Asmodean? Will you please name one of the following: Lanfear, Graendal, Moridin, Shaidar Haran, Padan Fain, Semirhage, Demandred, Mazrim Taim, Slayer. I thank you for your mercy and if you can please explain why they didnt do it that would be a nice touch.

Jordan: Padan Fain didn't because he wasn't in the right place at the right time. He would have if he had been in the right place at the right time, but he wasn't.

[Terez]

That was an Emma question, wasn't it? :)

[Marie Curie 7]

That was an Emma question, wasn't it? :)

Dunno...it just says it was thought to be a question from Theoryland. :)

[Yuri33]

tFoH, Glowing Embers:
He pulled open a small door, intending to find his way to the pantry. There should be some decent wine. One step, and he stopped, the blood draining from his face. "You? No!" The word still hung in the air when death too him.

I still maintain he died of alcohol withdrawal. It's been known to cause hallucinations.

[Nazbaque]

So where did the body go? It was not found in the castle.

[Yuri33]

The cleaning staff. No one wants to see a dead drunk.

[Nazbaque]

So why would the cleaning staff want look at it long enough to carry it away?