Cadsuanes ter'angeal

[Oatman]

I was going to go back and find the passage I am about to refer to, but a combination of laziness and the fact I should be doing uni work and am only really using this as a distraction at the moment means a vague description is all I'll provide.

At one point during a recent reread, I think it was in Crown of Swords, Cadsuane is walking through the Sun Palace and comments that one of the ter'angreal in her hair has grown cold, indicating that someone is channeling somewhere close. This sounds a lot like what Mats medallion does, and for the life of me I cant think of a moment when anyone has directly channeled at Cadsuane to determine if it also functions in stopping weaves.
So basically, is it possible Cadsuane has a version of Mats foxhead hanging in her hair, or is there a scene where she has the power directed towards her which would effectively invalidate this idea?

[Sarevok]

Not that I know of. I think you're probably correct.
You might want to take a look at the scene of Semirhage's capture, where someone, probably Cadsuane, breaks up Semi's Illusion.

[Weird Harold]

At one point during a recent reread, I think it was in Crown of Swords, Cadsuane is walking through the Sun Palace and comments that one of the ter'angreal in her hair has grown cold, indicating that someone is channeling somewhere close. This sounds a lot like what Mats medallion does, and for the life of me I cant think of a moment when anyone has directly channeled at Cadsuane to determine if it also functions in stopping weaves.

According to the Encyclopedia WOT, that was the Golden Cresents hair ornament and it is just a detector:

Golden Crescents
A ter'angreal in the shape of intertwined gold crescents. It grows cool when someone nearby holds saidar. Cadsuane wears it as a hair ornament.

References
TPoD,Ch12 - Cadsuane's hair ornament grows cool when Alanna holds saidar.

The Encyclopedia also identifies two other of Cadsuane's hair ornaments; the Golden Swallow that detects OP use and direction (used to locate attacking Forsaken at the Cleansing) and the Golden Hummingbird which is a Well she used to Channel inside Far Madding..

I don't think the ter'angreal used against Semirhage is identified, but it might have been part of NYneave's Jewlerly Set, which we know from Alivia's battle with Cyndane can disrupt weaves. Cadsuane does take credit for breaking the weave although Nyneave detected it first.

Cadsuane was watching Rand, too. She and Nynaeve were wearing all of their ter’angreal jewelry. Nynaeve was making a good try at Aes Sedai calm. She seemed to practice that a great deal since sending Lan wherever she had sent him. Half the hilltop separated her plump brown mare from Cadsuane’s bay. of course. Nynaeve would never admit it. but Cadsuane intimidated her.

...

"Cadsuane, Nynaeve, you’d better embrace the Source now,” he said. “We’re getting close."

"I’ve been holding saidar since back on that hill,” Nynaeve told him. Cadsuane snorted and gave him a look that called him an idiot.

Rand stilled a grimace before it could begin. His skin felt no tingling, no goosebumps. They had masked their ability, and with it, shielded him from sensing the Power in them. Men had had few advantages over women when it came to channeling, but now they had lost those few while women retained all of theirs. ...

...

"One of them is channeling." Nynaeve said, just loudly enough for him to hear, as she climbed down from her saddle. "I can’t see anything. so she’s masked her ability and inverted the weave-and I wonder how the Seanchan learned that-but she’s channeling. Only one; there isn’t enough for it to be two." Her ter’angreal could not tell whether it was saidin or saidar being channeled, but it was unlikely to be a man.

I told you it was trap. Lews Therin groaned. I told you!

Rand pretended to check his saddle girth. “Can you tell which one?” he asked quietly. ...

“No,” Cadsuane replied grimly. “But I can do something about it. Once we’re closer.” Her golden hair ornaments swayed as she tossed her cloak back as though unmasking a sword.

“Stay behind me,” he told Min, and to his relief, she nodded. Her face wore a small frown, and the bond carried worry. Not fear, though. She knew he would protect her.

Leaving the horses standing, he started toward the sul’dam and damane with Cadsuane and Nynaeve a little distance to either side of him. Logain, hand resting on his sword hilt as if that were his real weapon, strode along on the other side of Cadsuane, Narishma and Sandomere beyond Nynaeve. The small dark woman began walking toward them slowly, holding her pleated skirts up off the damp ground.

Abruptly, no more than ten paces away, she… flickered. For an instant, she was taller than most men. garbed all in black, surprise on her face, and though she still wore the veil, her head was covered with short-cut wavy black hair. Only an instant before the small woman returned, her step faltering as she let her white skirts fall, but another flicker, and the tall dark woman stood there, her face twisted in fury behind the veil. He recognized that face, though he had never seen it before. Lews Therin had, and that was enough.

“Semirhage.” he said in shock before he could stop the word, and suddenly everything seemed to happen at once.



Setalle Anan does say it is rumored that Cadsuane has a ter'angreal like Mat's, but I can't find any indication of it being activated since Cadsuane also has a known simple detector, the Golden Cresents, that goes cold when someone is just holding the OP nearby.

Planting herself in front of him, close enough that she interfered with Joline’s hasty scramble to her feet. Mistress Anan studied him with her arms folded beneath her breasts in ... she was every inch the stately Ebou Dari innkeeper, sure of herself and accustomed to giving orders. He expected her to upbraid him-she was as good as an Aes Sedai when it came to upbraiding!-so he was surprised when she spoke, sounding very thoughtful.

"Joline must have tried to stop you. and Teslyn and Edesina as well, but whatever they did failed. I think that means you possess a ter’angreal that can disrupt flows of the Power. I’ve heard of such things-Cadsuane Melaidhrin supposedly had one, or so rumor said- but I’ve never seen the like. I would very much like to. I won’t try to take it away from you, but I would appreciate seeing it."

[Sarevok]

“No,” Cadsuane replied grimly. “But I can do something about it. Once we’re closer.” Her golden hair ornaments swayed as she tossed her cloak back as though unmasking a sword.
This was what I was referring to in my post. A few minutes after this, Semirhages Illusion weave is disrupted.
So while it's probably not the same as Mat's medallion, it might be "stronger" in that it can also disrupt flows that aren't directed against the wearer, although there appears to be a distance-limit. However, it might also be "weaker" in that it probably requires active channeling by the wearer, which would render it useless if she were shielded.

[Dom]

I was going to go back and find the passage I am about to refer to, but a combination of laziness and the fact I should be doing uni work and am only really using this as a distraction at the moment means a vague description is all I'll provide.

At one point during a recent reread, I think it was in Crown of Swords, Cadsuane is walking through the Sun Palace and comments that one of the ter'angreal in her hair has grown cold, indicating that someone is channeling somewhere close. This sounds a lot like what Mats medallion does, and for the life of me I cant think of a moment when anyone has directly channeled at Cadsuane to determine if it also functions in stopping weaves.
So basically, is it possible Cadsuane has a version of Mats foxhead hanging in her hair, or is there a scene where she has the power directed towards her which would effectively invalidate this idea?

It's very likely one reason why she is so unflappable around Rand, Asha'man or Forsaken - and so good at finding and capturing male channelers.

RJ has described one of Cadsuane's ter'angreal that interferes with weaves as 'much like' Mat's' on his blog. Setalle Anan mentions this to Mat in KOD. Setalle doesn't know how it works and was speaking of the similarity of the effects, but RJ's answer was related to the properties and suggested strongly they work on the same general principle.

It 'melts'/breaks weaves like Mat's. It has a least one difference; Mat's is strictly defensive/passive, as far as we know - and channeling at/into it won't work.

Cadsuane may possibly be able to project the effect of hers on weaves/channelers in close proximity. She broke/melted Semirhage's weaves of Illusion using this ter'angreal.

Some (incl. me) believe it's rather the area of the effect of her ter'angreal that can be adjusted, and in this case it's obvious she can turn it on and off at will - people much closer to her than Semirhage was have channeled before without their weaves melting. Either way, many conclude a major difference between Cadsuane's weave-breaker and Mat's medallion is that hers requires the OP to be activated (Spirit, some speculate - and she mentions wearing her arsenal to sleep nowadays), and possibly the size of the flow you use to power it dtermines the perimeter of the effect, within limits.

Features like this would make sense in a battle arsenal. Cadsuane would be able to send a brief burst of saidar to activate the ter'angreal for the second it takes to break all active weaves in a given perimeter, surprising the enemy she faces but without preventing allies in the same perimeter from channeling almost immediately afterward - she would just have to forewarn them. Or she could use a minute continuous flow to just protect her person only, augmenting it momentarily when she wants to increase the perimeter of the effect suddenly. In KOD she didn't seem fully sure how far she could extend the effect.

Some have also speculated that since a channeler can actually wear it and still be able to weave, it may be that you can actually use the OP directly on Mat's medallion, but for this to work the channeler must put it on.

There was a discussion about Cadsuane's arsenal vs. the medallion on Wotmania in 2005. RJ read it and out of the blue he decided to answer on his blog a point raised by Ken in the thread (several of the early Blog Q&A were like this, RJ not answering questions someone sent him directly but answering stuff he saw in discussions).

[Weird Harold]

It's very likely one reason why she is so unflappable around Rand, Asha'man or Forsaken - and so good at finding and capturing male channelers.

RJ has described one of Cadsuane's ter'angreal that interferes with weaves as 'much like' Mat's' on his blog. ... but RJ's answer was related to the properties and suggested strongly they work on the same general principle.

It 'melts'/breaks weaves like Mat's. It has a least one difference; Mat's is strictly defensive/passive, as far as we know - and channeling at/into it won't work.

Cadsuane may possibly be able to project the effect of hers on weaves/channelers in close proximity. She broke/melted Semirhage's weaves of Illusion using this ter'angreal.

The big problem is that we don't even know how many ter'angreal are in cadsuane's Hair Ornaments set. (ETA: so we don't know if the one that workslike Mat's medalion is the one she used on Semirhage's illusion.)

Nyneave's Jewlery set has a ter'angreal (the jeweled belt) that apparently works on the same principle as Mat's medalion but has a slightly different functionality -- weaves melt away as they touch Mat, but unravel at a distance from the Jeweled Belt.

Whatever Cadsuane used, it has much longer range (~60 ft) than either the Jeweled Belt and it is to some extent interactive -- whether it required channeling isn't hinted at, it might just require a thought/desire/force of will to aim it at a specific target. That raises the question of whether it works against more than one target at a time.

I suspect that none of Cadsuane's ornaments require Channeling to function except for the Golden Hummingbird which is known to be a Well that has to be filled with Saidar before it can provide Saidar to a channeler. Nyneave's Jewelry Set is, by it's described functions at EWOT, a "OP comabat suit" and the Hair Ornament Set seems to be designed for a similar purpose. It wouldn't make sense to design a "combat suit" that requires diverting a portion of your power to operate it -- essentially splitting weaves between direct action against an opponent and operating a ter'angreal.

One thing to note, is that Cadsuane has had the Hair Ornaments Set for about 250-260 years, since she met Norla just after attaining the shawl; needing to split her weaving to operate them would be second nature to her by now; i.e. not worth mentioning.

Question: Can we even be sure that the ter'angreal disrupted the weave, or just allowed everyone to see through the illusion?

If the ter'angreal just exposes illusions, then it could well be an area of effect that affects everyone and everything with 60 feet instead of disrupting all weaves in an area (which would be tough on allies) or requiring a specific target.

[Neilbert]

Question: Can we even be sure that the ter'angreal disrupted the weave, or just allowed everyone to see through the illusion?

Abruptly, no more than ten paces away, she… flickered. For an instant, she was taller than most men. garbed all in black, surprise on her face, and though she still wore the veil, her head was covered with short-cut wavy black hair. Only an instant before the small woman returned, her step faltering as she let her white skirts fall, but another flicker, and the tall dark woman stood there, her face twisted in fury behind the veil. He recognized that face, though he had never seen it before. Lews Therin had, and that was enough.

Seems to be disrupting the weave. Semirhage notices immediately.

Just as it reached the woman, almost close enough to singe her garments, the web of Fire unraveled. The woman did not do anything; the net simply came apart! Cyndane had never heard of a ter'angreal that would break a web, but it must be that.

Probably something similar, though with more range.

Some, do not require channeling at all...

It wouldn't make sense to design a "combat suit" that requires diverting a portion of your power to operate it -- essentially splitting weaves between direct action against an opponent and operating a ter'angreal.

It would really have to depend on the ter'angreal. I would imagine that if Mat's ter'angreal required some small amount of channeling to be active most channelers would consider it to be well worth the sacrifice. Cost benefit ratio and all, though I would imagine the vast majority of Cadsuane's ter'angreal are passive.

Setalle Anan does say it is rumored that Cadsuane has a ter'angreal like Mat's, but I can't find any indication of it being activated since Cadsuane also has a known simple detector, the Golden Cresents, that goes cold when someone is just holding the OP nearby.

You are confusing the Golden Cresents with the Swallow.

Golden Cresents:
"I have kept your crime to myself," Cadsuane said quietly, "but only because I saw no reason to complicate matters." Lifting her eyes to the other woman, she kept her voice soft. "If you think that means I won’t core you like a cabbage, think again."
Alanna stiffened. The light of saidarsuddenly shone around her.
"If you wish to be truly foolish." Cadsuane smiled, a cold smile. She made no move to embrace the Source herself. One of her dangling hair ornaments, intertwined golden crescents, was cool on her temple. "You keep a whole hide at present, but my sufferance is not infinite. In fact, it dangles by a thread."

This one seems to be almost exactly like Mat's, which also goes cool (not cold) when people are channeling nearby. (Cold is when he gets channeled at.)

And Swallow:
Her real attention was on another boy, though. Nynaeve was swaying, groaning with the ecstasy of such an unbelievable mass of saidar flooding through her, but Rand sat like a stone, sweat rolling down his face. His eyes were blank, like polished sapphires. Was he even aware of what was happening around him?
The swallow turned on its chain beneath her hand.
"There," she said, pointing toward the ruins of Shadar Logoth.

This one is a simple detector. Of course, we don't know for sure that the Cressants are like Mat's medallion, but it would be a bit superfluous to have two simple detectors no? Especially considering that the swallow is clearly superior as a detector.

She would have liked very much to know that. None of her ornaments pro*tected against ta’veren. Of course, she did not know what two of the fish and one of the moons did, but it seemed unlikely they did that.

And some are a mystery to everyone.

And I'm spent...

It's very likely one reason why she is so unflappable around Rand, Asha'man or Forsaken - and so good at finding and capturing male channelers.

Oh almost certainly. It's been mentioned a few times that she has captured several male channelers herself (which should be pretty much impossible unaided). Also, IIRC the people she brings back to the Tower to be Gentled tend to live longer than others.

I've always believed that Cadsuane sits down with them, tells them the straight dope (you're screwed either way, sorry but life sucks like that sometimes) and convinces them to come voluntarily while doing her best to prepare them for what is coming.

[Dom]

Question: Can we even be sure that the ter'angreal disrupted the weave, or just allowed everyone to see through the illusion?


RJ specifically said it interferes with weaves and disrupted her Illusion.

It's also fairly obvious it's the same one he called in another occasion 'much like Mat's'. He typically referred to it in the same book via Setalle's comment in chapter 7, foreshadowing its use later in the book, and refreshing the memory of the readers not keeping track of those details so they could understand what would go on in the confrontation scene.

[Neilbert]

The quotes in question:

For Krassos, yes, a channeler could still channel wearing Mat’s amulet. Cadsuane has one much like it. And I think that I will complete “Trust” [The Color of Trust] eventually. I think about doing so every now and then.

- For kcf, one of Cadsuane’s ornaments is a ter’angreal that can interfere with weaves. That is how she was able to disrupt Semirhage’s use of Illusion.

Despite what you say, it isn't anything near obvious that he is talking about the same ter'angreal. Considering just how many she has, I find it more likely that he is talking about two separate ones. Mat's doesn't have any range to it, it's just a shield really. Hardly able to disrupt weaves unless they are directed specifically at him.

E: Clearly Cadsuane has a ter'angreal that would block channeling like Mat's medallion, otherwise it make no sense to talk about Cadsuane's ter'angreal in response to being asked if a channeler could channel if they were wearing the medallion.

[hippie-joe]

EDIT:

However, it might also be "weaker" in that it probably requires active channeling by the wearer, which would render it useless if she were shielded.

i wonder if may be it is just like mats, but because she was holding the power it was able to send out a disruption. if that is the case then if mat were to give his to someone who could channel, if it would do the same if they were holding the OP

[Weird Harold]

[/QUOTE]Seems to be disrupting the weave. Semirhage notices immediately.

Other weaves disrupted by ter'angreal just melted away or vanished and stayed gone -- Semirhage's disguise "flickered." <shrugs> enough difference in imagery to wonder if it was the weave or the effect of the weave that was being canceled.


You are confusing the Golden Cresents with the Swallow.

...

This one seems to be almost exactly like Mat's, which also goes cool (not cold) when people are channeling nearby. (Cold is when he gets channeled at.)

Nope, I meant the Golden Cresents which went cool when Saidar is detected in the vicinity. Mat's Medalion guages the strength of the power it detects by the amount it cools down, and does NOT need to be channeled at directly to get "icy cold."


Outside a flyspeck village called Weesin, a thatch-roofed little cluster of houses where not even Luca thought two coppers could be shaken loose, Mat stood with a heavy woolen cloak pulled around him in a driving rain and watched the three Aes Sedai steal back into the show as the sun set. Thunder boomed in the distance. They were swathed in dark cloaks with the hoods well up, yet he had no doubts who they were. In the downpour, they passed within ten feet without seeing him, but the silver medallion hanging beneath his shirt went cold against his chest. At least one of them was channeling, or holding the Power, anyway. Burn him, they were all three mad as loons.

Joline’s Warders. Blaeric and Fen. were nowhere to be seen, so there was no need to talk his way past them to get inside, but as he approached the dirt-streaked steps at the back of the wagon, the foxhead medallion hanging beneath his shirt went icy cold against his chest, then colder still. For a moment, he froze like a statue. Those fool women were channeling in there! Coming to himself, he pounded up the steps and banged the door open.

He rode Pips alongside the Aes Sedai wagon, near the middle of the long line, flinching a little every time the foxhead went cool against his chest, which it began to do before they had gone much more than a mile. It seemed that Joline was wasting no time. Fergin, handling the reins, chattered away about horses and women with Metwyn. Both were as happy as pigs in clover, but then, neither had any idea what was going on inside the wagon. At least the medallion only turned cool, and barely that. They were using small amounts of the Power. Still, he disliked being so near any channeling at all. In his experience, Aes Sedai carried trouble in their belt pouches and seldom were shy about scattering it, never mind who might be in the way. No, with the dice bouncing inside his head, he could have done without Aes Sedai within ten miles.


This one is a simple detector. Of course, we don't know for sure that the Cressants are like Mat's medallion, but it would be a bit superfluous to have two simple detectors no? Especially considering that the swallow is clearly superior as a detector.

Since the Swallow doesn't distinguish between Saidin and Saidar, detectors for each half of the True Source would be useful; so three simple detectors to provide direction and type. Or just two to provide direction and diffrentiate Saidar from Not Saidar?



And some are a mystery to everyone.


Good catch. I wonder if she's figure out the last few before the series ends? :D

It's also fairly obvious it's the same one he called in another occasion 'much like Mat's'.

Mat's can't disrupt weaves at 60 feet away -- I'm not even sure his can detect Channeling that far away; there are no quantitative references to distance in the three examples of detection above.

Neilbert is correct there is no idication RJ was talking about the same ter'angreal; styling the observed affect as "much like Mat's" is a real stretch when weaves have to actually touch him to be disrupted.

[hippie-joe]

It wouldn't make sense to design a "combat suit" that requires diverting a portion of your power to operate it -- essentially splitting weaves between direct action against an opponent and operating a ter'angreal.

i would agree with this.

maybe just holding the OP is enough to power the suit, like it feeds off the residual...

that would be more convenient

[Neilbert]

Nope, I meant the Golden Cresents which went cool when Saidar is detected in the vicinity. Mat's Medalion guages the strength of the power it detects by the amount it cools down, and does NOT need to be channeled at directly to get "icy cold."

Yeah, and I provided the quote wherein the Golden Cresents went cool when Saidar was detected in the vicinity, exactly like Mat's medallion. Alanna didn't do anything more than embrace Saidar, so there's no reason to expect the thing to be super cold, and Cadsuane sat there doing absolutely nothing and asked Alanna if she truly wished to be foolish. It's pretty clear that the Golden Cressents are the ter'angreal that Cadsuane possesses which is like Mat's. You're the one who called it a "simple detector" when all indications are that it does more than just detects. Hence my statement that you confused it with Cadsuane's real known simple detector.

I could have said that the coolness of Mat's medallion was a function of the intensity and proximity of the channeling, but I think the way I phrased it communicated the point to everyone who wasn't willfully trying to misinterpret it.

Since the Swallow doesn't distinguish between Saidin and Saidar, detectors for each half of the True Source would be useful; so three simple detectors to provide direction and type. Or just two to provide direction and diffrentiate Saidar from Not Saidar?

I think Cadsuane can, for the most part, figure out when Saidar is being channeled on her own. Also, I only recall her using the Swallow to detect channeling at the Cleansing. If she had a ter'angreal that specifically detected Saidar, she would have been using it too, since she knows about inverted weaves.

E: Just checked, she only uses the Swallow to detect channeling. No mention of another detector used by Cadsuane in that scene.

Lightnings such as Cadsuane had never seen streaked down from the cloudless sky, not jagged bolts but lances of silver-blue that struck at the hilltop where she stood, and struck instead the inverted shield she had woven, erupting with a deafening roar fifty feet above her head. Even within the shield the air crackled, and her hair stirred and lifted. Without the aid of the angreal that looked a little like a shrike dangling from her bun, she would not have been able to hold the shield up.
A second golden bird, a swallow, hung from her hand by its thin chain. "There," she said, pointing in the direction it seemed to be flying. A pity she could not say how far away the Power had been channeled, or whether by a man or a woman, but the direction would have to do. She hoped there would be no ... mishaps. Her people were out there, too. If the warning came with an attack, though, there could not be much doubt.

Just because they would potentially be useful doesn't mean that Cadsuane has them.

Good catch. I wonder if she's figure out the last few before the series ends?

Well, we can add it to the pile of mysteries to be (maybe) resolved in the next book. Meeting up with Elyane might resolve the issue, though I have to wonder how Cadsuane could tell they were ter'angreal (really probably not that difficult) and why she wears them when she has no idea what they do. I mean, they could literally do pretty much anything, that's a bit of a risk.

[Weird Harold]

I could have said that the coolness of Mat's medallion was a function of the intensity and proximity of the channeling, but I think the way I phrased it communicated the point to everyone who wasn't willfully trying to misinterpret it.


This one seems to be almost exactly like Mat's, which also goes cool (not cold) when people are channeling nearby. (Cold is when he gets channeled at.)

That's a pretty flat statement; difficult to be "willfully misinterpreted" -- it is also a direct contracdiction of the books.

Yes, you could have been accurate, but you'd rather "make shit up and post it as facts."

I think Cadsuane can, for the most part, figure out when Saidar is being channeled on her own.

Yep, she noticed right off that Semirhage was channeling Saidar and Nyneave's detector was totally superfluous. Seems to me that Nyneave's detector, if not Cadsuane's was a handy thing to have around at that meeting despite Cadsuane's years of experience at detecting and guaging Saidar users.
[/sarcasm]

[Neilbert]

Yes, you could have been accurate, but you'd rather "make shit up and post it as facts."[/sarcasm]

Really dude? Seriously, go fuck yourself. I know you like to nitpick over inane shit, but this is a new low.

Yep, she noticed right off that Semirhage was channeling Saidar and Nyneave's detector was totally superfluous. Seems to me that Nyneave's detector, if not Cadsuane's was a handy thing to have around at that meeting despite Cadsuane's years of experience at detecting and guaging Saidar users.

FOR THE MOST PART you willfully ignorant fucking retard. Sure, I could go out of my way to be 100% accurate, but it isn't going to do anything to stop you, so what's the point?

Yes, you could have been accurate, but you'd rather "make shit up and post it as facts."

As fact. Shit is singular. Christ you suck at English.

I can play this game too:

That's a pretty flat statement; difficult to be "willfully misinterpreted" -- it is also a direct contracdiction of the books.

What the fuck is a "contracdiction"? It's not in any dictionary that I've ever seen.

[Weird Harold]

Really dude? Seriously, go fuck yourself. I know you like to nitpick over inane shit, but this is a new low.

Just returning the favor. :d Enjoy.

[Neilbert]

Maybe if your inane nitpicking actually addressed my argument then it would be returning the favor, but this is just sour grapes, all style, no substance.

[Weird Harold]

Maybe if your inane nitpicking actually addressed my argument then it would be returning the favor, but this is just sour grapes, all style, no substance.

You had an argument? Was it something more inciteful than WH is making shit up again? I return inane nitpicking -- you do like that phrase, don't you -- for inane nitpicking; plus blatant contradictions of the books because you're too lazy to look minor details or at least qualify them as recollections; MINUS the profanity.

[Neilbert]

HURRRRRRRRRR

So basically, is it possible Cadsuane has a version of Mats foxhead hanging in her hair, or is there a scene where she has the power directed towards her which would effectively invalidate this idea?

DUUUR DE DRRRR

It's pretty clear that the Golden Cressents are the ter'angreal that Cadsuane possesses which is like Mat's.

plus blatant contradictions of the books because you're too lazy to look minor details or at least qualify them as recollections;

Fucking wow. You accusing someone else of being lazy is ironic to say the least.

[Oatman]

Um, wow.

So basically, Cadsuane has something which functions in a similar way to Mats, but the extent of the similarity is unknown. Cool.

[Weird Harold]

Um, wow.

So basically, Cadsuane has something which functions in a similar way to Mats, but the extent of the similarity is unknown. Cool.

I would say somethings because we don't know if it is one or a combination of hair ornaments.

Nyneave also has something(s) (In the "Jewelry Set") that are "similar" to Mat's medalion and Cadsuane's Hair ornaments but is not precisely the same as either Mat's medalion or Cadsuane's Hair Ornaments.

Cadsuane and NYneave both definitely have something that "works on the same principle" as Mat's Medalion, but the particulars of each implementation (such as range) are unclear.

[Neilbert]

So basically, Cadsuane has something which functions in a similar way to Mats, but the extent of the similarity is unknown. Cool.

Not quite unknown. It would block a weave applied to her, otherwise RJ's answer to this question is a complete non-sequitor.

For Krassos, yes, a channeler could still channel wearing Mat’s amulet. Cadsuane has one much like it.

Not to mention the scene with Alanna.

"I have kept your crime to myself," Cadsuane said quietly, "but only because I saw no reason to complicate matters." Lifting her eyes to the other woman, she kept her voice soft. "If you think that means I won’t core you like a cabbage, think again."
Alanna stiffened. The light of saidar suddenly shone around her.
"If you wish to be truly foolish." Cadsuane smiled, a cold smile. She made no move to embrace the Source herself. One of her dangling hair ornaments, intertwined golden crescents, was cool on her temple. "You keep a whole hide at present, but my sufferance is not infinite. In fact, it dangles by a thread."

Cadsuane is completely unconcerned about Allana's implied threat, while making no attempt to embrace Saidar, while a ter'angreal is cool against her skin. Combined with the previous quote it either blocks flows like Mat's medallion, or it's a staggering set of coincidences.