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JSUCamel
06-22-2009, 04:35 PM
http://cbs11tv.com/local/Texas.strip.club.2.1053241.html

SAN ANTONIO (AP) ―

A strip club in Texas that hired a 14-year-old as an exotic dancer says it was swindled and is suing the seventh-grader and her parents.

The girl allegedly exposed her breasts while working at Cheetah Club in Corpus Christi, a violation of state law. Alan Yaffe, the club's attorney, said the club didn't know the girl was a minor and disputed the alleged sequence of events that led the teenager to work there in the first place.

"She came (into the club) with 6-inch stiletto heels and a miniskirt and looked just like a model from a Miss America's contest," Yaffe said.

Authorities say Leslie Campbell, 48, kidnapped the girl in San Antonio in March, took her to Corpus Christi and sexually assaulted her over the course of a week. He then allegedly gave her a false identification and forced her to strip at the club.

Yaffe called the story bogus, and the club is suing Campbell, the girl and her parents for unspecified damage in a lawsuit filed last week. It also wants a judge to declare that the club didn't intend to hire a minor.

"There was no real kidnapping," Yaffe told the San Antonio Express-News. "We're the victims here, sir. My clients are the victims."

Campbell was in a Nueces County jail on charges of aggravated sexual assault and aggravated kidnapping. It was not immediately clear Saturday if he had an attorney.

Police also arrested Jeffery Shawn Martinez, a manager at the club, on charges of employment harmful to a minor and sexual performance of a child. He was released on bail. Martinez's attorney, Fred Jimenez, said his client is not guilty. Jimenez said the girl looked "very mature."

Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission Sgt. John Mann scoffed at that characterization.

"I've seen this young lady's picture, and I assure you she is a 14-year-old seventh-grader," Mann said. "I personally think any reasonable and prudent person could tell you that is an underage girl."

Authorities say the girl eventually escaped from Campbell and has been reunited with her parents in San Antonio.

Yaffe said the club has also sued Corpus Christi Police Chief Mike Walsh because Walsh issues permits for sexually oriented businesses in the city. A police spokesman declined comment to the newspaper, saying only that the lawsuit speaks for itself.

Gilshalos Sedai
06-22-2009, 04:41 PM
Uh..... what? She was a kidnapped girl, whose kidnapper forced her to get a job at a strip club and the strip club didn't bother to oh, I dunno... ask for a valid ID or driver's license? (Fakes aren't THAT hard to spot, surely a strip club is experienced in that.)

Crispin's Crispian
06-22-2009, 05:37 PM
Uh..... what?

I know...what a weird article. First I was like, what? Then I was like, huh? Then I was like, oooh....

Davian93
06-22-2009, 06:14 PM
Sue them...SUE THEM ALL!!!

DahLliA
06-22-2009, 06:15 PM
I know...what a weird article. First I was like, what? Then I was like, huh? Then I was like, oooh....

I went what... then /facepalm

hippie-joe
06-22-2009, 07:05 PM
wow, that's about retarded...

annie's 12 yrs old
and tomorrow she'll be a whore
nobody ever told her it's the wrong way

Sarevok
06-23-2009, 02:07 AM
Authorities say Leslie Campbell, 48, kidnapped the girl in San Antonio in March, took her to Corpus Christi and sexually assaulted her over the course of a week. He then allegedly gave her a false identification and forced her to strip at the club.

Yaffe called the story bogus, and the club is suing Campbell, the girl and her parents for unspecified damage in a lawsuit filed last week. It also wants a judge to declare that the club didn't intend to hire a minor.
I don't get it... if the story is bogus according to the club, what are they sueing this Campbell for?? :s

GonzoTheGreat
06-23-2009, 04:05 AM
They're sueing for "unspecified damage", it says so right there in the bit you quoted.
Now, why one might be entitled to sue for such a ludicrous cause is not entirely clear to me, but I suspect that's a matter of having another legal system.

Seriously, I think that they started this legal action to distance themselves from the responsibility of having a minor as a stripper. If they can get a court verdict in that they were swindled, then that means (logically, which may not be enough for DAs, but they can hope) that they won't be prosecuted themselves.

Sarevok
06-23-2009, 04:39 AM
They're sueing for "unspecified damage", it says so right there in the bit you quoted.
Now, why one might be entitled to sue for such a ludicrous cause is not entirely clear to me, but I suspect that's a matter of having another legal system.

Seriously, I think that they started this legal action to distance themselves from the responsibility of having a minor as a stripper. If they can get a court verdict in that they were swindled, then that means (logically, which may not be enough for DAs, but they can hope) that they won't be prosecuted themselves.
Sure, but they say they were swindled by the girl... what are they sueing Campbell for? :confused:

GonzoTheGreat
06-23-2009, 06:54 AM
For being in range of a lawsuit. That's generally enough, once an American starts talking to a lawyer.

Gilshalos Sedai
06-23-2009, 07:39 AM
Unfortunately, that's an accurate assessment, Gonzo.

Hopper
06-23-2009, 07:50 AM
As the step-father to a 13-year old girl, these stories always scare the shit out of me.

Ozymandias
06-23-2009, 08:24 AM
For being in range of a lawsuit. That's generally enough, once an American starts talking to a lawyer.

Actually, I think this case is more legitimate than some.

Having it known that they had a 14 year old in their employ will absolutely destroy their business. I mean, going to an "exotic club" is pretty low on the social standards scale, so it wouldn't take much to drive away clientele.

Assuming they're telling the truth, and we haven't heard the whole story by a longshot, I'm guessing, that little girl, or her parents, willfully and knowingly faking their age and identification in order to be employed is going to have a horrendous impact on their revenue stream. They absolutely have the right to sue, because this girl's lies and identity fraud are going to cost them a whole lot of money.

And if you have a mature looking 14 year old (and they exist... my sister is that age and some of her friends look like their in their 20's) and a real ID of a different person, its easy to get away with it. A club like this is the least likely place to be doing a rigorous investigation.

Neilbert
06-23-2009, 09:46 AM
I don't get it... if the story is bogus according to the club, what are they sueing this Campbell for?? :s

Probably because if they don't get some legal decision that it was her fault (or at least not theirs) they can get into lots and lots of trouble for child exploitation/pornography.

I'm sure Sinistrum could elaborate.

(Fakes aren't THAT hard to spot, surely a strip club is experienced in that.)

It really depends on the quality of the fake. Some (expensive hard to obtain) fakes are straight up legitimate licenses, just the information on them isn't true.

Gilshalos Sedai
06-23-2009, 09:48 AM
Actually, even if they did, it wouldn't save them from liability. Point is, the club screwed up and didn't verify her ID.

Neilbert
06-23-2009, 09:54 AM
It's a bit of a legal gray area as I understand it. I would suspect that you aren't obligated to do some full FBI background check etc, and that there is a standard for a reasonable attempt to determine true age.

I don't think bars get in trouble for serving kids with really good fakes who look old.

Though I think the standard for a young girl getting naked would be a bit higher.

I have heard of people getting charged with statutory rape when a girl had a fake ID and they asked to see it first, and then counter claiming fraud and entrapment (or w/e the legal term would be).

I actually would be interested to hear the legal technicalities on this one.

StrangePackage
06-23-2009, 07:17 PM
Okay, reality check people-

what kind of pederast kidnapper demands that his prey be out of his control for 8-10 hours a night in a job which entails by it's nature a massive amount of public and law enforcement scrutiny?


After answering that question, re-assess.

Davian93
06-23-2009, 07:24 PM
Okay, reality check people-

what kind of pederast kidnapper demands that his prey be out of his control for 8-10 hours a night in a job which entails by it's nature a massive amount of public and law enforcement scrutiny?


After answering that question, re-assess.

Wanted For Questioning:

http://pictures.deadlycomputer.com/d/32441-2/Pedo+bear.png

Neilbert
06-23-2009, 08:06 PM
After answering that question, re-assess.

One who is really good at brainwashing?

Of course, what 14 year old girl wouldn't get naked for the kind of money strippers make? That's soooooo much shopping.

I'm sure a lot of them wouldn't, but I'm also sure enough of them would.

The kidnapping angle is pretty suspicious.

StrangePackage
06-23-2009, 08:19 PM
After a week?

What is that, the flash-frying version of brain washing?

Neilbert
06-23-2009, 08:46 PM
Really good.

If you think I'm saying your suspicions are unfounded, you should maybe reread the last line of my previous post.

tworiverswoman
06-23-2009, 09:03 PM
I know that a lot of employees skate past this part - but there's technically a $10,000 fine for infractions of the laws requiring inspection of documents proving identification and lawful employability in the US.

Granted that someone who hires migrant workers might well fudge this part - why would a strip club? Unless all the strippers are migrant workers...?

(Doesn't that conjure up a funny picture in your head, girls?)

DahLliA
06-24-2009, 12:16 PM
(Doesn't that conjure up a funny picture in your head, girls?)

not that I'm a girl, but this whole strip club think conjures up images in my head ;)

EDIT: guess I should add a disclaimer: Anyone in my head is legal :p

Hopper
06-24-2009, 12:33 PM
not that I'm a girl, but this whole strip club think conjures up images in my head ;)

EDIT: guess I should add a disclaimer: Anyone in my head is legal :p


Anyone in my head is almost 41 years old. By definition they are therefore legal.

Any fantasies I might happen to have, not that I'd admit to having any, and regardless of how sick or twisted they might be, will always remain legal until such time as I act on any of them.

Ishara
06-24-2009, 03:13 PM
That poor girl. Regardless of the details, that poor, poor girl.

Ozymandias
06-24-2009, 06:04 PM
That poor girl. Regardless of the details, that poor, poor girl.

And if the details are that she went into this willingly, deceived the club management at great legal and financial risk to them, and went on stage to shamelessly parade herself around like a hussy? Is it still, poor, poor girl?

At some point, we've got to admit she might well be capable of making her own choice. There are plenty of sickos out there, no reason it can't be a 14 year old.

Neilbert
06-24-2009, 06:09 PM
If she was raised to become like that I still feel some level of bad for her.

She's still a child.

and went on stage to shamelessly parade herself around like a hussy?

Why does this matter? The rest of those things are clearly bad, but this?

GonzoTheGreat
06-25-2009, 05:25 AM
It would matter because it would mean that she was not a "poor girl" in this case.

Of course, if Britney ... ehr, I mean, just any woman .. wants to parade herself around like a hussy ... well, come to think of it, I think I've said it was stupid of Britney. She risks going the Amy Winehouse way, which no one but Amy can survive for long. (I'm not sure Amy can either, but so far she's holding up better than I'd expected.)
But just working in a strip club: that's no big deal.

Jokeslayer
06-25-2009, 01:54 PM
And if the details are that she went into this willingly, deceived the club management at great legal and financial risk to them, and went on stage to shamelessly parade herself around like a hussy? Is it still, poor, poor girl?

At some point, we've got to admit she might well be capable of making her own choice. There are plenty of sickos out there, no reason it can't be a 14 year old.

Assuming it's wrong for a 14yo to do that, then clearly there's something (or a bunch of somethings, more likely) that's happened to her that would put her in the "poor, poor girl" category.