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Jalyn
07-13-2009, 11:18 PM
Remembering things as they actually happened...

The most important and wonderful presidential speech of my lifetime.
Tear down this wall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjWDrTXMgF8&feature=related)

If you can watch this without sobbing, I can't imagine that you lived through it.

The beginning of the end of the end (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_eCVhCGYwE)

Continued (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEbsCYLx2TI&NR=1)

The beautiful finale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1URzkk-oa28&feature=related)

I was 14 years old. And this is still the most wonderful thing I have ever seen.

Sarevok
07-14-2009, 03:39 AM
Hmm, before my time. :)

Terez
07-14-2009, 04:02 AM
Almost before my time. I remember it, but I was pretty young.

Anaiya Sedai
07-14-2009, 04:21 AM
I was actually in berlin at the time. But I was only 2 years old.. :rolleyes:

GonzoTheGreat
07-14-2009, 05:25 AM
I've been in Berlin both before and after Die Wende. I liked it better afterwards, even though it was more special before. It's a kind of speciality the world could do well without, I think.

Orc
07-14-2009, 07:50 AM
I was 11. And... I don't remember it at all.

Gilshalos Sedai
07-14-2009, 07:59 AM
I was 15 or 16. I remember it. I cried then and I cried now. Thanks for that reminder.

Davian93
07-14-2009, 08:23 AM
I remember the Soviets were the "Bad Guys" as a child. Whenever we played "war" the bad guys were always the Soviets or the Commies. The Wall fell when I was 8 and the Gulf War was my earliest memory of a significant world event that I actually understood (I was 10 when it kicked off). I remember my parents thinking it would be another Vietnam. I also distinctly remember the Challenger explosion as we were watching the launch live at my elementary school (I was in Kindergarden at the time) when it happened (Space launches were still interesting 23 years ago).

Sei'taer
07-14-2009, 08:28 AM
I was 17. I remember it very well. I had an english teacher who announced after the speech that we would all be dead before we graduated high school because Reagan had put us in the death sights of the kgb. She was a little bit goofy and didn't like Reagan because he switched parties and "became republican". I pointed out that he said the Dems had moved away from him, she said that was a code for being a traitor...ahhhhh high school...

I read a book by a secret service man who had been assigned to guard Reagan and he said that Reagan wrote an outline for the speech and gave it the speechwriters and they took that sentence out when they wrote the speech. He said Reagan threw a fit because he wanted that line in the speech and the speechwriters thought it was a bad idea. He finally told them he was going to use it whether they put it in there or not so they might as well put it in for posterity sake...so they did.

Davian93
07-14-2009, 08:29 AM
Who should get more credit for breaking the Soviets?

Pope John Paul II or Ronnie Reagan

Debate.

Zanguini
07-14-2009, 08:30 AM
Wolverines forever!!







i think it was the price of wheat dav

Ivhon
07-14-2009, 08:42 AM
I remember weeping that day.

But it was because I missed winning $94 million in the Florida lottery by 2 numbers.

All else pales...

Frenzy
07-14-2009, 09:09 AM
it's weird. i was a freshman in high school when the wall fell, but i don't remember much about it. My history teacher was too busy teaching about the Revolutionary War to mess with modern stuff. I vaguely remember him saying something to the effect that history wasn't history until it's at least 50 years old or something. It can't be viewed and skewed by modern passions.

i also remember his class smelling like a very wet, very dead dog. i'd blame him for my dislike of the subject, but i had a crappy 7th grade history teacher who sucked all the life out of the subject for me.

So, now that we're just about 20 years beyond the Fall, how are things?

Gilshalos Sedai
07-14-2009, 09:29 AM
Well, new enemies. That's always fun. Germany has one of the strongest economies on the planet....

yks 6nnetu hing
07-14-2009, 09:37 AM
there are those who say that history isn't history unless everyone who took part in it is dead.

and since no one's mentioned the obvious, I'll go ahead and do it: 9/11

Crispin's Crispian
07-14-2009, 10:27 AM
Now I'm going to be whistling this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXCEaeqZDnA)all day.

I remember the wall falling, but I wouldn't say it ranks up there with the highlights of my life. I was 13 at the time. I think my grandfather had passed away less than a month before so my attentions and emotions were certainly elsewhere.

Neilbert
07-14-2009, 10:35 AM
Who should get more credit for breaking the Soviets?

Pope John Paul II or Ronnie Reagan

Debate.

Trick question, the correct answer is the price of oil.

Ishara
07-14-2009, 10:42 AM
Um, for the non-American, what was the line Sei?

Crispin's Crispian
07-14-2009, 10:46 AM
Um, for the non-American, what was the line Sei?
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"

Sarevok
07-14-2009, 11:07 AM
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
Hmm, good to know, since I was presuming it was about this:
I pointed out that he said the Dems had moved away from him,

Zaela Sedai
07-14-2009, 12:06 PM
Thats the first major even I remember happening, I was 7 and watched it standing at the foot of my parents bed wondering what the big deal was. Which my mom explained to me, and I was like ... "oh cool"

Zanguini
07-14-2009, 01:44 PM
first major event i can remember is the challenger explosion

Gilshalos Sedai
07-14-2009, 02:31 PM
I actually remember the first shuttle launch. My dad is a space geek, so we watched it.

Also, let's not forget the eruption of Mt. St. Helens.

Zanguini
07-14-2009, 02:40 PM
Well I was in the stands when I watched the Challenger, such a thing makes an impact.

Gilshalos Sedai
07-14-2009, 02:47 PM
Yeah, that would. They interrupted school for the Challenger.

GonzoTheGreat
07-14-2009, 03:04 PM
First major event I can remember is a moon landing (probably not the first one, though I have no idea which it was), which I wasn't allowed to watch life on television because it was in the middle of the night. For some incomprehensible reason, they planned all those at times that were convenient for Americans.

Zanguini
07-14-2009, 03:42 PM
It is all apart of the phamisutical/coffee cartel conspiracy, by scheduling events only conviniant for americans, also forcing all americans to know when eastern time zone is in order to figure out when a show will be on. this will force all peoples to change their watches to the eastern time zone, when this is done it will force people to go to work at different times than they are used to making them grumpy and irritated forcing them all to either be put on meds or buy truck loads of coffee. Because the entire world is grumpy this will make those in the eastern time zone grumpy for having to deal with grumpy people all day. And when the entire world is grumpy that is when they would have addicted all of us and force us to become their slaves

Sei'taer
07-14-2009, 04:22 PM
I guess the first thing like that I really remember paying attention to was the hostages that were taken in Iran. I was around 9 or 10 (I think that was in '79).

I seem to remember Mom and Dad talking about the Fall of Saigon but I was only 5 or 6 when that happened, so other than being a strange name it didn't really mean much to me.

I remember Reagan getting shot, and Lennon getting shot, I remember the first space shuttle launch in '81 because we watched it in school and I remember the Columbia and the Challenger disasters, I was at school and 16 for the Challenger and it was a big deal because of the teacher in space...um Mculliffe??? Christa, I think (good god I'm getting old and CRS). We were in the library at school watching it.

I remember tight rolled (or pegged) pants, mall hair, when MTV played it's first video, when we got cable and it was the coolest thing ever, leg warmers, stirrup pants, bell bottoms (in fifth grade a I got a pair of nikes, the first in the school and I remember walking to school and the brown nikes were sticking just past the bottom of my bell bottom jeans and I was thinking about what a BADASS I was), 8 track tapes, 3/4 sleeve tshirts with iron on patches, mullets, western flyer bikes, and the first time I heard "Hair of the Dog" on the radio....

enough?

tanaww
07-14-2009, 05:08 PM
If you get any older you'll be dust!

The first thing I remember is the election of Jimmy Carter (I was 18 months old at the time). Second is the Iran Hostage Crisis. I remember clearly getting the message sent when the hostages were released right after Reagan took office. It's amazing what a precocious six year old I was, isn't it;)

Shut up Birgitte. I mean that now.

Birgitte
07-14-2009, 05:09 PM
Of course. 'Cause you're totally not older than Taer. ;)

Crispin's Crispian
07-14-2009, 05:30 PM
I remember Reagan getting shot, for some reason. I was 5 years old.

But that's not the earliest. I remember Mt. Saint Helens because we could see the eruption from our house. They were digging the basement of a house in our neighborhood, and I remember climbing up the giant pile of dirt to get a better look.

Earlier still, I remember the solar eclipse on 26 Feb 1979. That might be my earliest memory that has documentation, since I had turned three years old three days prior.

Sei'taer
07-14-2009, 08:44 PM
Of course. 'Cause you're totally not older than Taer. ;)

~coughcoughbullshitcoughcough~

Brita
07-14-2009, 08:50 PM
Earlier still, I remember the solar eclipse on 26 Feb 1979. That might be my earliest memory that has documentation, since I had turned three years old three days prior.

Hey- I remember that too! I was four years old, and in school. They made us put funny masks on and then let us go outside and look...

I also recall Desert Storm, I was in high school and we were all protesting in the front lobby with a sit in, skipping class to do so of course. Our elected school president (whom I admired greatly) came out and said "If you are protesting because you are taking a stand against the war, then good for you. But if it just to skip class....go back to class." Ha ha, my conscience was pricked.

Uno
07-14-2009, 09:29 PM
The first international event of which I have any clear memory at all was Leonid Brezhnev's death in late 1982. I was about 6 years at the time. Before that I can vaguely recollect hearing about the Navy hunting Soviet submarines in Norwegian waters, but I can't place the year, so that doesn't count. The biggest international event that made any impression on me before I started following the news myself was probably the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, though. From about 11-12, I regularly read the paper and was somewhat addicted to the news, so I've got pretty clear memories of developments since 1988 or so.

The fall of the Berlin Wall was, of course, very big news for us that had lived with the Cold War all our lives. My family was on vacation in the Soviet Union just the year before, too, and I was on a boy scout jamboree (of all things) in the Estonian Socialist Soviet Republic in the summer of 1991, the year the USSR dissolved.

Come to that, it's jolly amazing how much the Cold War shaped my entire childhood, as now that I think of it, the first domestic political event I can clearly remember was the arrest of Arne Treholt, a labour politician, for spying for the KGB in 1984.

ShadowbaneX
07-14-2009, 09:38 PM
I remember the Berlin Wall coming down...vaguely. I was 9 at the time (well, nearer to 10, but meh) so I had no idea what it really was about.

Of major historical events, my earliest was probably the Challenger Disaster which was about 5 weeks before my 6th birthday. That one was pretty easy to understand.

Sarevok
07-15-2009, 02:35 AM
Hmm... Oldest news I remember?
Some of the first things I remember are, though I have no idea which came first:
Monica Lewinski & Clinton
Something about a Ponzi scheme in Albania
Lots of riots in Palestine

Btw, i wat 2 when the Berlin wall fell, I can't remember anything about it.

yks 6nnetu hing
07-15-2009, 04:33 AM
oh, EARLIEST memories...

The Baltic Way, probably. 1989 23rd August. I was 4.

After that, I remember watching the Lithuanian tv tower being sieged by tanks. they ran over people. It was broadcast live. I saw. that was probably 1990 or '91. I remember watching it very late at night on tv and it was special 'cause mom and dad didn't tell me to go to sleep, they were too terrified by what that might mean for themselves.

and I've now looked it up, was January 1991. On my 6th birthday, in fact (it still counts if you haven't gone to sleep yet!). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_Events_(Lithuania)

My birthdays tend to suck, overall. On my 10th my grandfather was buried and two days before that, my uncle.

Edit: this is apparently my 69th post. I think I'll have some cake to celebrate :) *munches*

WinespringBrother
07-15-2009, 08:56 AM
Some (not-too) early memories are of the US Bicentennial celebrations, hearing about the threat posed by China to US dominance (in the 70's), and most importantly the threat posed by killer sharks and Bigfoot LOL

Frenzy
07-15-2009, 09:40 AM
i remember the Desert Storm protests at our school. One chick was trying to rally everyone to wear black the next day in protest. So my friends and i all wore white.

the chick's name was Poppy. what would you have done? ;)

John Snow
07-15-2009, 10:01 AM
I remember Eisenhower defeating Truman (and later Stevens)....I remember the first operational supersonic planes and sonic booms over our house in Van Nuys. The Van Nuys airport had a wing of F-86s (with a lightning slash on the rudder, meaning supersonic). The Orth family had the first TV on our block, but I don't remember hanging there that much - some, especially for Queen Elizabeth's wedding, which was televised. All the women in the neighborhood gathered in front of the tube for that.

Let's see, what else can I horrify you with....
In all honesty, that's about it, from my pre-ten years. The advent of TV, and cool airplanes. Someone tested a flying wing a few times & it flew over our house. I think it must've been a YB-49; Northrop wasn't that far away.

I took my first plane ride to Indiana to visit my grandparents when I was 7 (this would've been, cough, summer of 1953), in a TWA Super Connie. Quite a plane, very cool. Took a while, but I was small & could nap comfortably. Got fed well too.

Oh, and the other exciting event that was a landmark, a little later in my life, was when Disneyland opened in Anaheim. Summer of 1955. We went twice before moving back to Indiana in 1958.

And that's history!

Ivhon
07-15-2009, 10:11 AM
I could channel my dead daddy and say I remembered the heavy black smoke at Pearl Harbor.

Yellowbeard
07-15-2009, 10:24 AM
My earliest memory of a significant event - Mt. St. Helen's blowing it's stack. Had family out there and I remember dad calling out and having trouble getting in touch w/ them to make sure they were okay.

Next big one - riding my dad's shoulders while we marched down the streets of Washington D.C. in the parade they had for the Vietnam Veterans the day the Wall opened. I remember waving this little Amercian flag (I was 6 or 7, suppose I could verify it, but too lazy). I also remember later at the Wall itself. First time I ever saw my dad cry.

Of course - I have other memories before that of events that were significant to me (like almost drowning at the beach one day and projectile hurling in my dad's ear) but they really aren't all that historical.

Crispin's Crispian
07-15-2009, 10:43 AM
I don't remember specific protests, but we had an "all-school assembly" to "discuss" the war. There was a common saying: "I support the troops, but not the war." Lessons from Vietnam, I guess. * I also remember coming home from school that first afternoon when my brother called me down to watch the first salvos on TV.

Oddly, I remember when Reagan sent planes into Libya in 1986. I was at my grandmother's house and we were listening to the radio. That one oddly sticks out as a frightening event, though in retrospect it doesn't seem so.

* Doesn't it seem like every military action by the US since Vietnam has been met with the argument: "This is going to be another Vietnam!"?

Gilshalos Sedai
07-15-2009, 10:47 AM
* Doesn't it seem like every military action by the US since Vietnam has been met with the argument: "This is going to be another Vietnam!"?


Yes. The Watchmen at least got that part right. Losing that war did drive us mad (in the Hatter sense) as a nation.

Jalyn
07-15-2009, 05:47 PM
That's not my oldest memory, just the highlight of history that I've lived through. In fact, I'm not sure I actually remember it happening, but I've seen the footage often enough for it to be burned in. (Note: I have an awful memory, for the most part I don't remember anything before I was 12, and little before, oh, last year. And anything I do remember before that time will turn out to have not happened.)

I do have this very vague idea of watching TV and having the family go nuts with joy when Reagan was elected president. Appropriate, really, so I'm keeping it as my earliest memory even if it didn't happen.

Ishara
07-16-2009, 07:30 AM
(Note: I have an awful memory, for the most part I don't remember anything before I was 12, and little before, oh, last year. And anything I do remember before that time will turn out to have not happened.) Gosh am I glad it's not just me!! People talking about their three-year old memories was hurting me!

ShadowbaneX
07-16-2009, 08:27 AM
Gosh am I glad it's not just me!! People talking about their three-year old memories was hurting me!
I have a few random scattered memories from my very early years, but these are about it.

The three earliest I can remember are:

-being held up to a window at my baby sitter's place as my mom drove off to work after dropping me off for the day
- my first shower. It stung like hell. I just remember spinning in circles flailing my hands as superhot needles jabbed into my skin.
-playing around the mostly empty lot where my house was being built

The last was just after I was three (we moved into that house in the summer of 83), the second was in the house before we moved so possible 2 or 3 years old and I think the first one was at the age of 2 if not younger.

Gilshalos Sedai
07-16-2009, 09:47 AM
Hell, if we're going to go to the EARLIEST memories, mine are, in no particular order: A Haunted House my mom and dad took me to with his sisters, thinking even if it scared me, I'd never remember it. (Yeah, right.) My last vaccination as a toddler. I described it once to my mom and she said, "Holy shit you were 2! And you remember that?" (I honestly had no clue how old I was in my memory, I just remember being VERY little.) Seeing Star Wars in the movie theater (I was 3). The Sand People were scarier than Darth Vader. Or perhaps Darth Vader had already scared me so much by then, the Sand People were the last straw. I was carried out of the theater. Made my mom miss A New Hope till she could get me to fall asleep.

Sarevok
07-16-2009, 09:50 AM
Hmm, oldest memories? I remember the view out the window of our old appartment (we moved out when I was 2): there were lots of cars. (I drove past a while ago... it can't fit more than 20 or so...)

I remember what kind of tv we had before we moved.

I remember what the metal things looked like that were used to make the bed higher when my mom was going to give birth to my sister. (I was 2)

yks 6nnetu hing
07-16-2009, 10:00 AM
hmm... earliest-earliest memories

resentment for my brother (1 year 8 months younger than me) that he got to go in the trolley and I had to walk - I remember winter and he was born in September so probably... just over 2 years old? Although it could be that he was a year and something and I was 3 then.

our back yard used to be bright blue in the spring with these flowers: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2413268857_03e492cdc6.jpg somewhere between 2 and 3 years old

there was a stuffed elephant that my mom made that was big enough for me to "ride" on

the time I accidentally poisoned myself by eating mom's azalea and they had to pump my stomach. I remember only after the pumping, sitting in the room and mom wasn't there and I was feeling sooooo bad. I'm told I was 3 or so.

Crispin's Crispian
07-16-2009, 10:25 AM
Gosh am I glad it's not just me!! People talking about their three-year old memories was hurting me!
Two things to clarify.

1) Those weren't my earliest memories, they were my earliest memories of significant events.

2) I'm pretty much in the same boat as you and JD, Ishara. I remember things on a macro level, but have very few specific "photo" memories of any events. My wife is constantly talking about how, "in 1st grade I lost my left molar," or "on my eighth birthday I had chocolate ice cream," or whatever. It's amazing.

Crispin's Crispian
07-16-2009, 10:32 AM
our back yard used to be bright blue in the spring with these flowers: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2413268857_03e492cdc6.jpg somewhere between 2 and 3 years old

That's an awesome memory. I have some impressionistic memories like that, too.

Our family moved to a new house when I was almost four years old. From that first house...

I remember the curtains in my room swirling in the wind as I lay in my bed, and being scared by the lights from a passing car as they shined across my the wall .

I remember Christmas parties with lots of people I didn't know and noise and gifts, but nothing specific about them. Just a fuzzy image of big people and sound and color.

I remember being in trouble for eating unripe apples from a tree in my back yard, and for riding my "big-wheel" too far away from the house.



I almost want to start a new thread on memories, because I had a really weird deja vu memory dream last night. I swear it was a dream about a dream I'd had years ago. I still don't know if the memory is about a real event or a dream. Odd feeling, that.

Terez
07-16-2009, 10:38 AM
I don't remember much of anything from my childhood. When I was 3, I had to go to the hospital because I was jumping on my mom's bed and fell off, hitting my head on her dresser. I still have the scar, but I don't remember it at all.

Crispin's Crispian
07-16-2009, 10:40 AM
I have shitloads of scars and I have no idea where they came from. I have some weird permanent bump on my forehead that looks like I just got hit in the head. I've had it since I was a little kid.

Aliens, I tell you.

Gilshalos Sedai
07-16-2009, 10:41 AM
It's funny the memories you keep and the ones you don't. About the time I was two, I supposedly fell down the stairs and bit my bottom lip nearly through. I still have a large white scar under my bottom lip, it's about a 1/2" long (I apparently had really big teeth for a toddler). No memory of this at all.

GonzoTheGreat
07-16-2009, 10:46 AM
I have some weird permanent bump on my forehead that looks like I just got hit in the head. I've had it since I was a little kid.

Aliens, I tell you.Considering the place where those aliens customarily insert their probes, that must've been a really big probe.
No wonder you suppressed the memory.

Crispin's Crispian
07-16-2009, 11:15 AM
That explains why some people say I'm long winded.

Terez
07-16-2009, 11:17 AM
No, that's the burritos.

Weird Harold
07-16-2009, 11:34 AM
It's funny the memories you keep and the ones you don't. About the time I was two, I supposedly fell down the stairs and bit my bottom lip nearly through. I still have a large white scar under my bottom lip, it's about a 1/2" long (I apparently had really big teeth for a toddler). No memory of this at all.

Threads like this sometimes trigger old memories that don't normally come to mind -- like falling out of the hayloft in my aunt's barn when I was around seven or eight triggered by your memory of falling at a young age. The fall from the hayloft (which my uncle claimed cracked the barn floor) in turn trigggers some other memories of youthful trips to the farm for a summer's vacation.

I suppose one of my most historical memories is brought to mind because of the date today -- it's forty years since the launch of Apollo Eleven on it's way to the first moon landing; since I was in Vietnam at the time, it was already the next day and my 20th birthday, so I tend to associate the first moon landing with "significant events that happened on my birthday."

I don't actually remember Ike's election, but I do remember wearing an "I Like Ike" button to school during the campaign. I remember being home sick the day JFK was assassinated in Dallas and my sister coming home from school early and waking me up to tell me about it.

I remember Elvis' and the Beatles' appearances on the Ed Sullivan Show.

I think my earliest memories are from 1954 (Age 4.75 and 5.25) -- April and October of that year; The birth of my oldest brother on April Fool's day and a "Columbus Day Storm" that produced the most memorable lightning display of my life.

Crispin's Crispian
07-16-2009, 12:46 PM
No, that's the burritos.
heehee...

Nicely done.