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Davian93
08-04-2009, 04:18 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/08/04/nkorea.clinton/index.html

Is there anything he can't do???

N. Korean leader reportedly pardons U.S. journalists

(CNN) -- North Korean President Kim Jong Il has pardoned and ordered the release of two U.S. journalists, state-run news agency KCNA said Wednesday.

The announcement came after former U.S. President Bill Clinton met with top North Korean officials in Pyongyang to appeal for the release of Laura Ling and Euna Lee, who had been arrested while reporting from the border between North Korea and China.

"Clinton expressed words of sincere apology to Kim Jong Il for the hostile acts committed by the two American journalists against the DPRK after illegally intruding into it," the news agency reported. "Clinton courteously conveyed to Kim Jong Il an earnest request of the U.S. government to leniently pardon them and send them back home from a humanitarian point of view.

"The meetings had candid and in-depth discussions on the pending issues between the DPRK and the U.S. in a sincere atmosphere and reached a consensus of views on seeking a negotiated settlement of them."

The report said Clinton then conveyed a message from President Obama "expressing profound thanks for this and reflecting views on ways of improving the relations between the two countries."

It added, "The measure taken to release the American journalists is a manifestation of the DPRK's humanitarian and peace-loving policy.

"The DPRK visit of Clinton and his party will contribute to deepening the understanding between the DPRK and the U.S. and building the bilateral confidence."

DPRK is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the nation's official name.

The two American journalists had been held in the reclusive communist nation since their arrest in March.

Earlier in the day, White House Secretary Robert Gibbs said Clinton was on a "solely private mission to secure the release of two Americans."

Ling and Lee are reporters for California-based Current TV -- a media venture launched by Clinton's former vice president, Al Gore.

The two were sentenced in June to 12 years in prison on charges of entering the country illegally to conduct a smear campaign. Since the United States has no diplomatic relations with North Korea, efforts to resolve the issue had been handled through Sweden, which represents U.S. interests in North Korea.

The visit by the former president, whose wife, Hillary Clinton, is now the Obama administration's secretary of state, came about three weeks after the United States dropped a request that Ling and Lee be released on humanitarian grounds. Instead, the United States was seeking amnesty for the women, Hillary Clinton said. Watch what may lie behind the pick of Bill Clinton

A plea for amnesty implies forgiveness for some offense, which could have given North Korea the chance to release the women without feeling that its legal system had been slighted, according to analyst Mike Chinoy, an Edgerton senior fellow on Asia at the Pacific Council on International Policy in Los Angeles.

Prior to the release, Chinoy said, "I suspect that it was made pretty clear in advance that Bill Clinton would be able to return with these two women, otherwise it would be a terrible loss of face for him."

Clinton's mission came as the United States and its allies in the region are seeking to push North Korea back into stalled nuclear disarmament talks. North Korea conducted a nuclear bomb test, its second, in May, and has conducted several missile tests since then. The United Nations responded to those tests by tightening and expanding sanctions on the nation.

North Korea and the United States were on opposite sides in the 1950-1953 Korean War and had no regular contacts before a 1994 crisis over North Korea's nuclear program. North Korea agreed at that time to halt the development of nuclear weapons, but abandoned that accord and withdrew from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty in 2003.

Clinton had considered visiting North Korea in 2000, near the end of his second term as president. His secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, went to Pyongyang in early 2000 to meet with Kim.

The 67-year-old North Korean leader was widely reported to have suffered a stroke a year ago and is believed to be grooming his youngest son, Kim Jon Un, as his successor.

Zanguini
08-04-2009, 04:29 PM
Bill Clinton Goes to N. Korea...Picks Up Two Chicks

Hmmm trailer trash in North Korea... who would have thought.

Ozymandias
08-04-2009, 04:37 PM
proving once again that liberal diplomacy is more effective than neocon sabre rattling

GonzoTheGreat
08-04-2009, 04:38 PM
What shape of office would he prefer with two?
With one, it has to be Oval, we know that. But this is another situation entirely. Perhaps someone who is better versed in US law can help us out here.

What kind of office would you require to make "I did not have a sexual relationship with those women" technically true?

Brita
08-04-2009, 04:40 PM
Prior to the release, Chinoy said, "I suspect that it was made pretty clear in advance that Bill Clinton would be able to return with these two women, otherwise it would be a terrible loss of face for him."

Hmmm- diminishes the achievement a bit. But who cares- I am so glad they are back safely.

Sei'taer
08-04-2009, 05:23 PM
Maybe the plane home is roomy?

irerancincpkc
08-04-2009, 09:45 PM
proving once again that liberal diplomacy is more effective than neocon sabre rattling
Ditto.

Frenzy
08-05-2009, 12:48 AM
the two running gags in my office were:

1) They sent Clinton and warned that if he didn't come back with the 2 journalists, they'd send Dubya. and

2) Hillary sent him after two young women, in hopes he'd step on a land mine in the DMZ.

Matoyak
08-05-2009, 03:49 AM
~reads title of thread~

~tweet tweet~ ~chirp chirp~ I'll be honest, I had an image run through my head of Clinton holding two baby chickens with some caption about Monica howeveryouspellherlastname gracing the bottom of it.

John Snow
08-05-2009, 11:21 AM
Well, the efforts started as soon as the women were seized, there were several volunteers for the 'high level' person to go rescue them, and Bill was clearly a good choice to give Kim some face, which is largely what this is about. Contrast with John Bolton's approach. Of course, with Bolton, you can't make snide jokes about him and the women.

Davian93
08-05-2009, 11:56 AM
My theory is this:

We needed to send a Pimp. Who's the only high-level true pimp daddy we've got? Yup, that'd be Bill.

Thus Bill went to Pyongyang and pimp slapped Kim Jong Il a few times till he gave in.

Sinistrum
08-05-2009, 12:53 PM
Thus Bill went to Pyongyang and pimp slapped Kim Jong Il a few times till he gave in.

And by pimp slap you mean kiss ass, kaotao, admit that we're wrong and they were right, give them plenty of propaganda to continue to demonize us and prop up their regime. While I'm certainly grateful that Clinton was able to get these women out of 12 years in a gulag, I think its laughable to pretend like there wasn't a price to be paid here. There's always is when asking for something from our enemies and it will be paid in full, much to our chagrin later on down the line I suspect.

Yes we got what we wanted in the end, but the price was blinking in the face of our enemies and showing that all it takes for us to fold on something is to take a few of our citizens hostage. And that is a practice that is becoming entirely too common place during this administration.

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