Nascar...

[irerancincpkc]

Biffle got the pole; he has been surging recently. I like Dover, I've been there and it's a nice track. Like to see Jr. get a win, or any Hendrick's car really. Bobby LaBonte is overdue.

[Zaela Sedai]

Bobby aint gonna win...and yeah I'd like to know what was put under the hood of Biffle's car.

I'm really hoping that Hendrick and Stewart don't start talking. Stewart will be driving a chevy next year and I dont want it to be Mears's. I wont give him the courtesy I gave Junior.

[irerancincpkc]

I could never like Stewart. I don't think he would go from one super team to another. I think it's more likely he starts his own team with Hendricks engines, or something like that.

[Zaela Sedai]

He's made it clear he wants to drive a Chevy.... I hope he starts his own team, he'd prolly suck more. LOL

[irerancincpkc]

The one good thing about him - he likes Chevys.

I don't see Stewart staying in Nascar that much longer. I don't think he has the drive to, thankfully. He might want to exit on his own terms, under his own cars, and I doubt that would be wise on his part, making his own team, but who ever accused him of being smart?

[Zaela Sedai]

very true

[Sei'taer]

If he leaves he loses his Depot sponsorship....unless he can buy it away from Gibbs. I dunno, we'll have to see.

[irerancincpkc]

UPS might be available...

The race made me mad sixteen laps in. Idiot Hamlin needs to locate the brake pedal on the car, if he does, my guy gets through there okay.

[Sei'taer]

Well, KB won again.

Do y'all hate it as much as I do when Fox stops coverage? I hate having to watch on TNT and ESPN and then ~harf~ ABC. They just don't have anyone who seems to really be good at covering the races. The coverage is terrible and the commentators suck.

[Zaela Sedai]

I'm just happy for another top 5...nice to see tony taken out...I cant belive there were only 6 cars on the lead lap at the end, woulda been 5 or less had Kyle kept pushing.

[irerancincpkc]

Yes, I hate it when Fox stops covering. It used to be all right when my man Benny Parsons was alive, but ever since...

Kyle Busch is starting to really annoy me...

[Zaela Sedai]

the whole team annoys me :p

[irerancincpkc]

I used to not give a crap about Hamlin, but now... :mad:

[Kurtz]

Which one is the girl? I want her to win

[Sei'taer]

Which one is the girl? I want her to win
Wrong racing...girls can't drive NASCAR and there's no crying in baseball:D :D :D

[Zaela Sedai]

Watch it big bro :P I betchya anything Danica crosses over for at least one race. Its her dream or some such.

I wish she punched the guy last week, lol.

[Frenzy]

if she does, maybe she can teach Juan Pablo Montoya how to drive.

[irerancincpkc]

Montoya is a beast. And I believe he has won a championship in that Indy series, something Patrick hasn't done.

I dislike her immensly. She would be right beside Stewart if she crossed over.

[Zaela Sedai]

I hate Montoya as much as stewart.

[irerancincpkc]

How? The man is hilarious, and everyone seems to like him; I saw Harvick, (who got in the fight with him before) laughing with him on TV the other day. I just think the guy is great. My second favorite driver.

[irerancincpkc]

Well, I knew I would love the race when Kyle wrecked right away. :D Pocono is a very interesting track. I'd glad Junior got a top five when I don't think his car was that great.

I don't have a problem with Kasey Kahne, so I didn't mind seeing him win.

[Sei'taer]

I was so happy Kyle wrecked too. I was even happier the way he wrecked...dumbass.

[Zaela Sedai]

Trying to be all cool and start all 3 races...I was thrilled when he crashed in practice and started last, the race crash was icing on the cake.

Notice that David Ragan is quite close to the top twelve? Be great if he knock out Stewart. And man Burton is a very quiet #2!

[irerancincpkc]

Did anyone else hate TNT's coverage? I like Bill Weber for some odd reason, but that is about it. They didn't show pits half the time, it seemed like, and pit stops are one of my favorite parts of a race.

[Sei'taer]

Oh, I hate their coverage. I turn it on and mute the TV then turn on the radio and listen to it instead of those idiots. I really don't like any of them except Fox.

Also, I was reading this on NASCAR.com and I thought that maybe it's time to do a little work on Pocono...because to be honest, its one of my favorite tracks.

Drivers gripe about Pocono but love track's new 'patch'
New paved spot creates two lanes of racing in Turn 3
By Raygan Swan, NASCAR.COM
June 7, 2008
04:11 PM EDT

LONG POND, Pa. -- Boring, antiquated and too long.

These are all words that have been used to describe Pocono Raceway recently as it has come under fire after talks of purchasing the independent track surfaced.

First it was Jeff Gordon.

The Hendrick Motorsports driver said it was outdated and he is surprised the triangle-shaped track still has two Sprint Cup events. He contends NASCAR should be in other markets.

"I feel like it's obvious that this is a track that needs some upgrades and I still believe that," Gordon said. "At this day and time with this series at the level it's at, to go to a racetrack that has some of the bumps and some of the SAFER barriers and different things that we have here or lack of, in my opinion its only being constructive criticism as to what I think upgrades they need to have, especially if they want to continue to stay on the circuit going forward."


I think if we ran 400-mile races that would be better. There would be more racing throughout the event than just riding around for however many miles because you have so long to go.

And now, series points leader Kyle Busch said the races are too long.

"I think 500 miles is too much," Busch said at Pocono on Friday. "I think if we ran 400-mile races that would be better. There would be more racing throughout the event than just riding around for however many miles because you have so long to go."

Then, when asked to address more of his concerns about Pocono Raceway, Busch said he feared Sunday will be "a boring race."

"That's a big concern. I don't know what we'll see. I don't know what it will all entail, but we all thought the same sort of thing here," Busch said. "You just get within a few car-lengths of the guy in front of you and you get stuck and you just can't go anywhere. Besides all of that, we'll just try to make the most of it and have a good run."

The string of gripes came after Gordon heard that Speedway Motorsports Inc. chairman Bruton Smith was interested in buying Pocono in order to give his Las Vegas track a second Cup date and his newly acquired speedway in Kentucky a first.

From the looks of it, Pocono isn't going anywhere as the Mattioli family said it is not for sale and never will be as long as the family is in charge of the front office.

And besides that, the drivers are enjoying a new virtue displayed at the Northeastern raceway they feel could make for better racing on Sunday for the Pocono 500 (12:30 p.m., TNT).

They call it "the patch," a partial paving job in Turn 3 apparently for crumbling asphalt and disrepair.

Richard Childress Racing driver Clint Bowyer said it has changed the track a lot.

"The first day I was looking at it out there ... I thought, I should go up there and try that. I was telling [Jeff] Burton and [Kevin] Harvick ... nobody was up there the first day," Bowyer said, speaking of the recent test session at the track. "I said 'You know, I am going to try it up there, it is a long ways out there, but I think there is probably a ton of grip out there.'"

Word got out and this weekend all the drivers are trying to run that same high groove, Bowyer added.

Carl Edwards said he's not even trying to run the bottom.

"That new strip of asphalt just feels so good, everyone's running up there," Edwards said. "I think it's going to make for an interesting change in the passing zones, where before you could come up in the tunnel turn, get inside someone and then you'd have the preferred line. Now, if you get inside someone they'd have the preferred line, so it'll be a little more give and take, a little more passing heading into the tunnel, which will be exciting."

Teammate Greg Biffle was uncertain of the intention behind the repaving job but is glad they chose to do so.

"I'd be willing to bet that it's not a mistake, but on accident, it has created a top groove that really, really runs good and is real fun to drive, and it makes that upper groove fast," he said. "So that's going to put a lot of racing into this racetrack, where a guy can get his car working very well on the bottom, and then a guy running up top. So I think it's going to create some exciting racing, and I'm certainly happy to see that new bit of pavement up there."

Denny Hamlin said he noticed everyone gravitating to the newly paved Pocono patch as well.

"Even with that little patch in Turn 3, everybody is fighting for that one lane of new asphalt," he said. "Nobody is running the bottom and everyone is running that one lane and 43 cars are not going to fit on it."

[irerancincpkc]

Have you ever been to a race there, Sei'taer?

I went there once, and while I really like the track, it's not a great track to go to; you can't see much. I'd hate to see it lose a race though...

[Sei'taer]

never been there, no. I liked the track better before they changed the gearing in the cars. It used to be that you had to shift gears, so it was a lot like a road track, now they don't have to do it anymore.

A lot of tracks are too big to see the whole thing, Daytona, Talladega, Indy...but they are good races and good race tracks. I like Pocono because it is different, and it has a lot of different elements to it. I am so tired of tracks like Texas, California, Phoenix, and Atlanta. They can basically use the same set up for each one. So you see at least 4 races that are exactly the same. I want to have a bunch of different tracks, short, long, square, oval, widen your horizons...thats why I can't watch Drag Racing.

[irerancincpkc]

I know what you mean; it seems like Texas and California are the same in most aspects, though Phoenix this spring was really exciting. I have a problem with Michigan as well.

Pocono is really sweet; the tunnel turn - how could you not like that! :D Maybe they should repave it?

[irerancincpkc]

Well, I didn't particulary like the race till the end! :D Thank goodness for that last caution!

A win is a win, and I'll take it! :D

[RogueSavior]

Juan Pablo Montoya reminds me of only one thing. Jean Girard
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[tanaww]

Taer, you can't watch Drag Racing because it's only for the cool kids. That much horsepower isn't for the weak. Even B likes being at the track. That being said:

RIP Scott Kalitta

And Ashley Force would whip the shit out of any of those circle jerks out there. NASCAR is just afraid women will win too much ;)

[Sei'taer]

And Ashley Force would whip the shit out of any of those circle jerks out there. NASCAR is just afraid women will win too much ;)


On a track or on the strip? I'd put some of them up against her on either.

[irerancincpkc]

Drag Racing is very boring; they go in a straight line. Takes next to no skill. :D

[tanaww]

I'd say either one Taer - you pick. For that matter, Angelle or Melanie'd probably measure up pretty well too. I don't really know. And I'm going to ignore Spammer since he clearly has never actually watched Drag Racing. It requires a lot of skill and a big pair to cut the right light and handle 8000 HP. I love it. NASCAR'd probably be fun to do, but I haven't the attention span to watch.

[irerancincpkc]

I was joking with the skill thing. :D I couldn't do it... I've just never been able to get into it...

[tanaww]

Spammer, go watch it. You're in PA? There's a race in New Jersey and in Ohio. You'll love it. And NHRA tickets include pit access so you can meet the drivers and watch the crews work. Give it a try. Trust me. I'm an intellectual bitch unless Nitro's involved. mmmm.....Nitro.

[Sei'taer]

I'm an intellectual bitch unless Nitro's involved. mmmm.....Nitro.


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