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Terez
04-26-2010, 06:34 PM
I'm working on getting audio from Tam, and maybe I can get some video later, but for now, here's a basic synopsis of questions that were asked today (all asked to Harriet, Alan, and Maria):

When I was in line, I asked Brandon and Harriet (mostly Harriet, since she was signing my books) if the Andoran royal line is descended from Rand's Aiel line (see this post (http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=94394#poststop)). I got a lovely smile from Harriet that told me she was pleased that someone had finally figured that out, and she said that she believes I am exactly right about that. She was a little sketchy on the details, though, and so was Brandon, so Brandon said it was essentially a MAFO. So I talked to Maria after that session, and she was taking a break so I didn't want to ask her about it just then, so I asked her if I could message her about it, and the other MAFO we got today, and she said yes, so I will hopefully be hearing more about that soon. Brandon asked me not to put that one in the interview database until I hear from Maria about it.

From the Q&A with Harriet and Alan (this is all really sketchy, since I was typing as it went, and Harriet talks a lot so she's hard to keep up with):

Q: RJ has said that there is a touch of you in every female character. Which one do you sympathize with the most, or which do you think reflects you the most?
H: The one that comes most quickly to mind is Moghedien, but I think in truth it would be Moiraine.

Q: You and Alan have worked on WoT for many years. Beyond that are there any other projects that you are looking at editing beyond the WoT?
H: The encyclopedia is sort of beyond the WoT, sort of a 'fifth wheel' (laughter), and I’ll definitely be looking forward to that. Meanwhile there’s a project with a fellow Charlestonian that I’m eager to get off the ground. (more from audio)
Alan: We have a session specifically on the encyclopedia tomorrow. After WoT I think I look forward to working more in my garden and to continuing my career as a professional cabaret singer.

Q: Are we going to get to see the other two prequels that RJ had planned on writing?
H: We’re finishing the WoT first. And…um….that’s it. (I don't think she was saying that there would not be any prequels...just that this is all she had to say on the subject currently.)

Q: Is it possible to learn weaves from text, or does it have to be demonstrated? I asked Maria, but she gave me a vague answer.
H: I can be very vague when I want to be, and this is such a moment. (RAFO card)

Q: Are you going to be doing The Travels of Jain Farstrider?
H: No, but maybe The Killers of the Black Veil. I've always wanted to read that one. (laughter) That was a joke.

Seeker: Can you name one thing that someone can do with the True Power that cannot be accomplished with the One Power?
H: No.
Alan: You can get those cool spotted eyeballs.

Q: What else have you edited besides WoT and Ender’s Game?
H: Brandon has an editor on The Way of Kings. I read it for him, and it was a great pleasure. …… (more – audio)

Q: How do you feel about the idea of a movie – do you think they can do the series justice?
H: I think they can. It will be interesting to see what happens. It’s a huge task to make a WoT movie work…..(audio)
Alan: (audio)

Linda: Who thought up the mindtrap? Any circumstances you can divulge….
H: I don’t remember.
Brandon: MAFO. (Maria will be getting back to me on this one too.)

Terez: Was Verin at the Darkfriend Social? (This question was on Linda's list.)
H: That was Bela.
Terez: AGGGGGH.

Q: When RJ first told you about the OP, how did you feel about it?
H: Well, it was on the page. So I felt pretty much the same as you guys did.... (more on audio)

(I didn't catch who asked most of these questions, so if you want to claim a question, let me know and I'll credit you personally in the interview database.)

Questions we asked Maria at the Towers of Midnight discussion:


Tam: Is the Horn an object of the Power?
Maria: RAFO, but I will tell you something about the Horn. People always ask why the inscription on the Horn is in the Old Tongue, if it’s so old. It was added in the Age of Legends.

Seeker: If Ishamael took the Horn to the Pit of Doom, and the Dark One destroyed it, what would happen?
Maria: I have no idea.

Q: Which plot lines will be important in Towers of Midnight?
Maria: Pretty much any major character that was not in The Gathering Storm will be seen in Towers of Midnight.

Q: How do the ‘Finns store memories? Obviously they don’t just have flash cards laying around.
M: RAFO

Q: Will there be any use of Portal Stones in the next two books?
M: RAFO

Q: Are there any servants of the Dark One among the ‘Finns?
M: RAFO

Questions we asked Maria at the Sunday panels:

Ishara: Did Mierin drill the Bore out of curiosity, or out of some malevolent desire?
Maria: Mierin was kind of greedy. I don’t think it was a malevolent intent, but it wasn’t all pure and nice.
Ishara: Did her drilling of the Bore remove her choice [about becoming a Darkfriend] in any way?
Maria: I don’t know.

Amanda: Are we going to see anything about how the Darkfriends or Forsaken take their Oaths?
Maria: RAFO

Q: Is there any real difference between Forsaken, Dreadlords, Black Ajah, etc.?
Maria: I don’t think they’re all precisely the same thing.

WSB: How in the world did Lanfear survive that gigantic explosion that was depicted in the ter’angreal?
Maria: [I don't remember what she said! WSB? I think Tam was talking to me about something, but I seem to remember that question getting fielded to the floor.]

Tam: Is Lanfear the only surviving person that is aware of how the Bore was created?
Maria: I don’t know. Mesaana or Demandred might know.

Terez: It should be noted that when the panel moderator (Jakob from tv.net) asked who wanted to see the Heroes of the Horn again before the end, Maria raised her hand high. It's pretty well established that the Horn will be used again, but this is just further confirmation.

WinespringBrother
04-26-2010, 09:25 PM
When I was in line, I asked Brandon and Harriet (mostly Harriet, since she was signing my books) if the Andoran royal line is descended from Rand's Aiel line (see this post (http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=94394#poststop)). I got a lovely smile from Harriet that told me she was pleased that someone had finally figured that out, and she said that she believes I am exactly right about that. She was a little sketchy on the details, though, and so was Brandon, so Brandon said it was essentially a MAFO. So I talked to Maria after that session, and she was taking a break so I didn't want to ask her about it just then, so I asked her if I could message her about it, and the other MAFO we got today, and she said yes, so I will hopefully be hearing more about that soon. Brandon asked me not to put that one in the interview database until I hear from Maria about it.

Congrats!

Q: How do the ‘Finns store memories? Obviously they don’t just have flash cards laying around.
M: RAFO

I actually said "flash drives" ;)




WSB: How in the world did Lanfear survive that gigantic explosion that was depicted in the ter’angreal?
Maria: [I don't remember what she said! WSB? I think Tam was talking to me about something, but I seem to remember that question getting fielded to the floor.]

Maria didn't even say RAFO. That was put out for discussion, which I am fine with. Some thought she wasn't physically there, or used the shield weave that Rand used in POD.

I was also RAFO'd on whether Noal has previously been inside the Tower of Ghenjei.

Sei'taer
04-26-2010, 09:33 PM
I was also RAFO'd on whether Noal has previously been inside the Tower of Ghenjei.

Did you ask him that when he was talking to us outside? Or was that Eclipse? I can't remember now who it was.

I kept trying to get Al to ask Harriet some stuff, but since she didn't know who Harriet was she was afraid to ask her anything.

Terez
04-27-2010, 08:27 AM
I actually said "flash drives" ;)
Good, I'll fix it. Was going to fix it anyway when I realized the question made no sense.

I was also RAFO'd on whether Noal has previously been inside the Tower of Ghenjei.
Cool, I'll add that.

WinespringBrother
04-27-2010, 08:41 AM
Did you ask him that when he was talking to us outside? Or was that Eclipse? I can't remember now who it was.

I kept trying to get Al to ask Harriet some stuff, but since she didn't know who Harriet was she was afraid to ask her anything.

I asked that question of Maria during one of the panels (forget which one). But it was a guaranteed RAFO so I was also seeing what everyone thought of it as a theory (that he asked the Finns to wipe away his painful memories, thus causing his amnesia, and that the compulsion from Ishamael was not the only cause of his memory loss).

Ishara
04-27-2010, 09:10 AM
I said this at the time, but I think that's a really cool idea! :)

JSUCamel
04-27-2010, 09:32 AM
I asked that question of Maria during one of the panels (forget which one). But it was a guaranteed RAFO so I was also seeing what everyone thought of it as a theory (that he asked the Finns to wipe away his painful memories, thus causing his amnesia, and that the compulsion from Ishamael was not the only cause of his memory loss).

That's a great one. I'd never considered that. Excellent!

Terez
04-27-2010, 09:54 AM
Well, he said that he had no idea where the Tower was - he thought it was on the Shadow Coast somewhere. His own words: "Something Jain bloody Farstrider never did." Also, I got the impression when Mat entered via the Tear doorway that the 'Finns literally had not seen anyone enter since Tear took the doorway from Mayene 500 years before. The Rhuidean doorway probably hadn't been entered since the Age of Legends, and the Tower of Ghenjei probably hasn't been entered since around the time of Mat's latest memories (Hawkwing). No one even remembers how to get in; the only reason Olver knows is because he talked to Birgitte. How would Farstrider have known how to get in?

Crispin's Crispian
04-27-2010, 09:57 AM
Good, I'll fix it. Was going to fix it anyway when I realized the question made no sense.It makes sense in a way. It is quite amusing to imagine the Ael'finn quizzing each other with flash cards.

"OK, this one you have to know!"
"Oh...oh...crap it's that red-haired one!"

Davian93
04-27-2010, 10:14 AM
Well, he said that he had no idea where the Tower was - he thought it was on the Shadow Coast somewhere. His own words: "Something Jain bloody Farstrider never did." Also, I got the impression when Mat entered via the Tear doorway that the 'Finns literally had not seen anyone enter since Tear took the doorway from Mayene 500 years before. The Rhuidean doorway probably hadn't been entered since the Age of Legends, and the Tower of Ghenjei probably hasn't been entered since around the time of Mat's latest memories (Hawkwing). No one even remembers how to get in; the only reason Olver knows is because he talked to Birgitte. How would Farstrider have known how to get in?

Ishy told him.;)

Terez
04-27-2010, 10:15 AM
Seems unlikely. If Ishamael Compelled him, he'd hardly want to give Farstrider an opportunity to counteract it in any way.

Terez
04-27-2010, 11:02 AM
Also, Maria just told me that she will be getting back to me in a few days on the MAFO questions. She has a bunch of work to catch up on at the moment.

Davian93
04-27-2010, 11:08 AM
Seems unlikely. If Ishamael Compelled him, he'd hardly want to give Farstrider an opportunity to counteract it in any way.

I wasn't being serious.


I dont think he's been there before personally.

Sei'taer
04-27-2010, 11:38 AM
I wasn't being serious.


Seriously?

We also tried to pin them down on some of the prequels. Someone asked about it in one of the forums when brandon was going to be doing a reading from one of his books (he ended up doing readings from 2). I can't remember what the askeer wanted to see a prequel to, but I am hoping they might do some. I would love to see a Manetheren prequel.

ETA: just remembered that they asked about a Jain Farstrider prequel...huh, I am on topic, yay me!

Terez
04-27-2010, 11:43 AM
Well, if they do WoT prequels, it will be the two that RJ already had planned - they're very reluctant to do even that much - and those prequels were supposed to be about Tam and Moiraine.

Ishara
04-27-2010, 11:44 AM
Ishy told him.;)

I did not! :p

And yeah, it was the Codex panel, and one of the suggestions was that we get The Travels of Jain Farstrider. Harriet said it was more liekly that we get Killers of the Black Veil, which she said was written by Farstrider.

That twigged me to How Susa Tamed Jain Farstrider and I asked for a storybook with all the fables and stories that Thom gives us bits and pieces of.

Terez
04-27-2010, 12:04 PM
And yeah, it was the Codex panel, and one of the suggestions was that we get The Travels of Jain Farstrider. Harriet said it was more liekly that we get Killers of the Black Veil, which she said was written by Farstrider.
It was not, but of course I wasn't about to correct her during the panel:

TITLE - The Shadow Rising
CHAPTER: 22 - Out of the Stone

"Some six hundred or so years ago," he told her, "a peddler tried to get a look at Rhuidean." Another time it would have been a pleasure to be able to lecture her for a change. Not today. There was too much he did not know. "This fellow apparently didn't see anything of it; he claimed to have seen a golden city up in the clouds, drifting over the mountains."

"There are no cities in the Waste," Lan said, "in the clouds or on the ground. I've fought the Aiel. They have no cities."

Egwene nodded. "Aviendha told me she had never seen a city until she left the Waste."

"Maybe so," Rand said. "But the peddler also saw something sticking out of the side of one of those mountains. A Portal Stone. He described it perfectly. There isn't anything else like a Portal Stone. When I described one to the chief librarian in the Stone..." Without naming what he was after, he did not add. "...he recognized it, even if he didn't know what it was, enough to show me four on an old map of Tear "

"Four?" Moiraine sounded startled. "All in Tear? Portal Stones are not so common as that."

"Four," Rand said definitely. The bony old librarian had been certain, even digging out a tattered yellowed manuscript telling of efforts to move the "unknown artifacts of an earlier Age" to the Great Holding. Every attempt had failed, and the Tairens had finally given up. That was confirmation to Rand; Portal Stones resisted being moved. "One lies not an hour's ride from where we are," he continued. "The Aiel allowed the peddler to leave, since he was a peddler. With one of his mules and as much water as he could carry on his back. Somehow he made it as far as a stedding in the Spine of the World, where he met a man named Soran Milo, who was writing a book called The Killers of the Black Veil. The librarian brought me a battered copy when I asked for books on the Aiel. Milo apparently based it all on Aiel who came to trade at the stedding, and he got almost everything wrong anyway, according to Rhuarc, but a Portal Stone can't be anything but a Portal Stone." He had examined other maps and manuscripts, dozens of them, supposedly studying Tear and its history, learning the land; no one could have had a clue what he intended before a few minutes ago.
Also, Harriet said she was joking. And I'm sure that someone will now come up with a theory that Farstrider is 600 years old.

WinespringBrother
04-27-2010, 01:00 PM
And I'm sure that someone will now come up with a theory that Farstrider is 600 years old.

I think someone already theorized that he can channel, so being hundreds of years old could go along with that.

Birgitte
04-27-2010, 03:23 PM
Seriously?

We also tried to pin them down on some of the prequels. Someone asked about it in one of the forums when brandon was going to be doing a reading from one of his books (he ended up doing readings from 2). I can't remember what the askeer wanted to see a prequel to, but I am hoping they might do some. I would love to see a Manetheren prequel.

ETA: just remembered that they asked about a Jain Farstrider prequel...huh, I am on topic, yay me!

Actually, he just read two different parts of A Way of Kings, which I'm personally kinda psyched to read. It sounds neat.

And on topic? Bah! Bah, I say!

Sei'taer
04-27-2010, 04:05 PM
Actually, he just read two different parts of A Way of Kings, which I'm personally kinda psyched to read. It sounds neat.

And on topic? Bah! Bah, I say!

Yeah, I don't have much use for topics either.

I can't believe that guy paid $822 for that book. Bastard didn't even give us a chance to look like we were going to get it.

BTW, you got me in trouble with your Mom. What's with blaming me for the moonshine and the Chivas? Pops and Eclipse were the ones passing it to you, not me....

Seeker is a rib eatin' fool...

ShadowbaneX
04-27-2010, 04:06 PM
I'm trying to remember what I got RAFO'ed on, but it's just not coming to me.

Belazamon
04-27-2010, 04:22 PM
I'm trying to remember what I got RAFO'ed on, but it's just not coming to me.
Guess we'll just have to MAFO.

Birgitte
04-27-2010, 05:28 PM
BTW, you got me in trouble with your Mom. What's with blaming me for the moonshine and the Chivas? Pops and Eclipse were the ones passing it to you, not me....

LOL... Don't look at me! I blamed Hopper.

ShadowbaneX
04-27-2010, 07:16 PM
Ah! I remember what it was! It was: would we see any characters who were born in Shara or the Land of the Madmen. It was in relation to the semi-looney theory that Demandred is actually gathering male channelers from there.

GonzoTheGreat
04-28-2010, 03:54 AM
The Rhuidean doorway probably hadn't been entered since the Age of Legends, and the Tower of Ghenjei probably hasn't been entered since around the time of Mat's latest memories (Hawkwing). No one even remembers how to get in; the only reason Olver knows is because he talked to Birgitte. How would Farstrider have known how to get in?Didn't Slayer enter the Tower when Perrin was chasing him?

Ishara
04-28-2010, 08:27 AM
Yes.

JSUCamel
04-28-2010, 09:20 AM
Yes.

I was talking to Tam about this yesterday. My thought was: how is Slayer tied to the Tower of Ghenjei? One of the reasons why I find the idea that Luc/Isam are a result of the Finns (as opposed to some bizarre Shadow thing, which is what I've always thought) so interesting.

Tam suggested that we don't actually have proof that he entered the Tower, that he may have simply stepped out of TAR instead of entering, leading Perrin to believe that he must enter this dangerous tower (per Birgitte). I don't have the books handy at the moment, but I suppose that's a good point.

However, I'm leaning towards the fact that Slayer did, in fact, enter the Tower, and that Matt, Thom and Noal may encounter Slayer in their quest to find Moiraine.

halo6819
04-28-2010, 10:09 AM
that would make his "he had been given many gifts" quote make more sense. you could say mat was given many gifts as well..

Terez
04-28-2010, 11:41 AM
Seems more likely that Slayer has nothing to do with Ghenjei. There's no other evidence to tie them together.

JSUCamel
04-28-2010, 11:46 AM
that would make his "he had been given many gifts" quote make more sense. you could say mat was given many gifts as well..

I agree. It's an interesting idea with merit. Not sure what we'll find out about that, if anything, though.

jason wolfbrother
04-28-2010, 12:34 PM
TITLE: Shadow Rising
CHAPTER: 28 - To the Tower of Ghenjei
Two hundred feet the tower rose, and forty thick, gleaming like burnished steel. It might as well have been a solid column of metal. Perrin walked around it twice without seeing any opening, not so much as a crack, not even a mark on that smooth, sheer wall. The smell hung here, though, that cold, inhuman stink. The trail ended here. The man if man he was had gone inside somehow. He only had to find the way to follow.

Perrin assumes he went inside but I'm not so certain either. I smell a red herring ;)

Terez
04-28-2010, 12:47 PM
I'm in class, but I'll try to sum this up properly:
TITLE - The Shadow Rising
CHAPTER: 28 - To the Tower of Ghenjei

His prey ran ahead of him in strides that covered miles, never more than barely in sight. Out of the hills and across the tangled Westwood with its wide scattered farms, over cleared farmland, a quilt of hedged fields and small thickets, and past Watch Hill. It was odd to see the thatched village houses covering the hill with no people in the streets, and farmhouses standing as if abandoned. But he kept his eye on the man fleeing ahead of him. He had become so used to this pursuit that he felt no surprise when one leaping stride put him down on the south bank of the River Taren and the next amid barren hills without trees or grass. North and east he ran, over streams and roads and villages and rivers, intent only on the man ahead. The land grew flat and grassy, broken by scattered thickets, without any sign of man. Then something glittered ahead, sparkling in the sun, a tower of metal. His quarry sped straight for it, and vanished. Two leaps brought Perrin there as well.

Two hundred feet the tower rose, and forty thick, gleaming like burnished steel. It might as well have been a solid column of metal. Perrin walked around it twice without seeing any opening, not so much as a crack, not even a mark on that smooth, sheer wall. The smell hung here, though, that cold, inhuman stink. The trail ended here. The man if man he was had gone inside somehow. He only had to find the way to follow.

Stop! It was a raw flow of emotion that Perrin's mind put a word to. Stop!

He turned as a great gray wolf as tall as his waist, grizzled and scarred, alighted as if he had just leaped down from the sky. He might well have. Hopper had always envied eagles their ability to fly, and here, he could too. Yellow eyes met yellow eyes.

"Why should I stop, Hopper? He killed a wolf."

Men have killed wolves, and wolves men. Why does anger seize your throat like fire this time?

"I don't know," Perrin said slowly. "Maybe because it was here. I didn't know it was possible to kill a wolf here. I thought wolves were safe in the dream."

You chase Slayer, Young Bull. He is here in the flesh, and he can kill.

"In the flesh? You mean not just dreaming? How can he be here in the flesh?"

I do not know. It is a thing dimly remembered from long ago, come again as so much else. Things of the Shadow walk the dream, now. Creatures of Heartfang. There is no safety.

"Well, he's inside, now." Perrin studied the featureless metal tower. "If I can find how he got in, I can put an end to him."

Cub foolish, digging in a groundwasps' nest. This place is evil. All know this. And you would chase evil into evil. Slayer can kill.

Perrin paused. There was a sense of finality to the emotions his mind attached the word "kill" to. "Hopper, what happens to a wolf who dies in the dream?"

The wolf was silent for a time. If we die here, we die forever, Young Bull. I do not know if the same is true for you, but I believe it is.

"A dangerous place, archer. The Tower of Ghenjei is a bad place for h umankind."

Perrin whirled, half-raising his bow before he saw the woman standing a few paces away, her golden hair in a thick braid to her waist, almost the way women wore it in the Two Rivers, but more intricately woven. Her clothes were oddly cut, a short white coat and voluminous trousers of some thin pale yellow material gathered at the ankles above short boots. Her dark cloak seemed to hide something that glinted silver at her side.

She shifted, and the metallic flicker vanished. "You have sharp eyes, archer. I thought that the first time I saw you."

How long had she been watching? It was embarrassing that she had sneaked up without him hearing. At the least Hopper should have warned him. The wolf was lying down in the knee high grass, muzzle on his forepaws, watching him.

The woman seemed vaguely familiar, though Perrin was certain he would have remembered her had he ever seen her before. Who was she, to be in the wolf dream? Or was it Moiraine's Tel'aran'rhiod, too? "Are you Aes Sedai?"

"No, archer." She laughed. "I only came to warn you, despite the prescripts. Once entered, the Tower of Ghenjei is hard enough to leave in the world of men. Here it is all but impossible. You have a Bannerman's courage, which some say cannot be told from foolhardiness."

Impossible to leave? The fellow Slayer surely had gone in. Why would he do that if he could not leave? "Hopper said it's dangerous, too. The Tower of Ghenjei? What is it?"

Her eyes widened, and she glanced at Hopper, who still lay stretched out on the grass ignoring her and watching Perrin. "You can talk to wolves? Now that is a thing long lost in legend. So that is how you are here. I should have known. The tower? It is a doorway, archer, to the realms of the Aelfinn and the Eelfinn." She said the names as if he should recognize them. When he looked at her blankly, she said, "Did you ever play the game called Snakes and Foxes?"

"All children do. At least, they do in the Two Rivers. But they give it up when they get old enough to realize there's no way to win."

"Except to break the rules," she said. " 'Courage to strengthen, fire to blind, music to daze, iron to bind.' "

"That's a line from the game. I don't understand. What does it have to do with this tower?"

"Those are the ways to win against the snakes and the foxes. The game is a remembrance of old dealings. It does not matter so long as you stay away from the Aelfinn and the Eelfinn. They are not evil the way the Shadow is evil, yet they are so different from humankind they might as well be. They are not to be trusted, archer. Stay clear of the Tower of Ghenjei. Avoid the World of Dreams, if you can. Dark things walk."

"Like the man I was chasing? Slayer."

"A good name for him. This Slayer is not old, archer, but his evil is ancient." She almost appeared to be leaning slightly on something invisible; perhaps that silver thing he had never quite seen. "I seem to be telling you a great deal. I do not understand why I spoke in the first place. Of course. Are you ta'veren, archer?"
1. Perrin assumes that Slayer went in, partly because he disappeared, and partly because of the 'cold, inhuman smell' that indicates his trail ends there. However, it's likely that the 'Finns also smell inhuman. so that doesn't mean anything. Perrin has no way of knowing this, and he also has no way of knowing that Slayer can step out of Tel'aran'rhiod at any time (which is the only reason for his assumption that Slayer actually went in). Slayer knows this, so he most likely used Perrin's ignorance to try to lure him into the Tower where he wouldn't be able to get out.

2. Birgitte recognizes Slayer's ancient evil, but she does not tell us what it is. So, we the readers might assume at this point in the story that Slayer is connected to the 'Finns, when in fact he is just a creature of the Shadow. By the end of the book, we have enough information to connect Slayer to the Dark Prophecy, and we also know that he works for the Shadow.

3. Birgitte specifies that the 'Finns are not evil like the Shadow. She offers nothing to connect them, and she remembers the precepts before she really has a chance to clear up the confusion.

4. Mat, Rand, and Moiraine went in the Aelfinn doorway in ch. 15, and Mat went through the Eelfinn doorway in ch. 24. This passage serves as a way of giving us more information about the 'Finns, and it also serves to confuse us about what Slayer is, and which evil he serves. It also serves to introduce us to the fact that the Heroes can interact with living people in Tel'aran'rhiod, and to Birgitte specifically.

5. If there had been even the slightest bit of evidence after this point (18 years ago) that Slayer was connected to the 'Finns, then it would be different. But as it is, the only reasonable conclusion is that Slayer was trying to trick Perrin into entering and getting himself killed or trapped in 'Finnland forever.

bowlwoman
04-29-2010, 11:23 PM
It makes sense in a way. It is quite amusing to imagine the Ael'finn quizzing each other with flash cards.

"OK, this one you have to know!"
"Oh...oh...crap it's that red-haired one!"

I'd think they'd be more likely to use "flesh" cards...

Neilbert
04-30-2010, 09:20 AM
Yes.

No.

Ishara
04-30-2010, 10:21 AM
That's subjective. My vote is yes. ;)

JSUCamel
04-30-2010, 10:30 AM
That's subjective. My vote is yes. ;)

While I agree with jwb and some others that there is no evidence that Slayer actually entered the Tower of Ghenjei, I believe there is enough circumstantial evidence regarding Slayer's powers and identity that suggest a relationship with the Finns, and thus I, too, am inclined to believe that he entered the Tower as Perrin chased him.

Neilbert
05-01-2010, 02:30 PM
The only circumstantial evidence I'm aware of is that he ran up to the tower of Genji. Is there something else you are referring to?