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GonzoTheGreat
07-15-2010, 05:10 AM
Since no one else has done so, I'll take care of it: they are back together again (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us+canada-10641662)!

Basel Gill
07-15-2010, 08:24 AM
Absolutely ridiculous to waste a moment of air time on this with so many important things going on. It's like the conservative version of Weekly World News. :rolleyes:

GonzoTheGreat
07-15-2010, 08:30 AM
Good, isn't it? :D

Basel Gill
07-15-2010, 08:46 AM
I sincerely hope that someone steers the Republican party away from her before 2012. It's like a really bad reality series.

Ishara
07-15-2010, 10:28 AM
I think that her response is actually quite classy, fwiw.

Terez
07-16-2010, 09:40 AM
I sincerely hope that someone steers the Republican party away from her before 2012. It's like a really bad reality series.
Well, now you've got Newt the Savior in the game.

JSUCamel
07-16-2010, 10:05 AM
I sincerely hope that someone steers the Republican party away from her before 2012. It's like a really bad reality series.

I've been trying to decide whether I want Palin to run in 2012 or not. On the one hand, I don't see any Republicans out there that I feel comfortable supporting at this point in time. On the other hand, I have fingers.

All seriousness aside, while I'm not convinced Obama is doing a horrible job or fucking up the country, I do believe he's not doing a good job at all. I guess what I can't decide is to what extent Congress is responsible for our present screwed up country versus Obama.

So the conundrum is this: do I support Obama (who is sure to be the Dem nomination in 2012) whom I'm not that crazy about at the moment (though I think he does have the potential to do some great things before then), or do I support an as-yet-unnamed Republican candidate (which is problematic for me, because as I've mentioned before, I don't see any contenders that I like all that much).

So if Palin wins the Republican nomination, there are two possible outcomes: it's a sweep for Obama (which I don't think would be terrible, but it wouldn't be ideal), or Palin wins and we're fucked. :)

I continue to be justified in my hatred for the two-party system.

Sei'taer
07-16-2010, 04:01 PM
I've been trying to decide whether I want Palin to run in 2012 or not. On the one hand, I don't see any Republicans out there that I feel comfortable supporting at this point in time. On the other hand, I have fingers.

All seriousness aside, while I'm not convinced Obama is doing a horrible job or fucking up the country, I do believe he's not doing a good job at all. I guess what I can't decide is to what extent Congress is responsible for our present screwed up country versus Obama.

So the conundrum is this: do I support Obama (who is sure to be the Dem nomination in 2012) whom I'm not that crazy about at the moment (though I think he does have the potential to do some great things before then), or do I support an as-yet-unnamed Republican candidate (which is problematic for me, because as I've mentioned before, I don't see any contenders that I like all that much).

So if Palin wins the Republican nomination, there are two possible outcomes: it's a sweep for Obama (which I don't think would be terrible, but it wouldn't be ideal), or Palin wins and we're fucked. :)

I continue to be justified in my hatred for the two-party system.


Just my two cents.

I have a very strong feeling that Hillary may try to run against Obama. I'm not positive about it, but I definitely see things happening that are making me think that's a strong possibility. It may change as time goes on, but for now I can see it happening.

There's not a front runner out there now, but it's still a long time to go. I heard talk today that some dumbass was talking up Jeb Bush. I think that would lose the white house faster than Palin.

I don't have a clue who I'll vote for. I can guarantee without the shadow of a doubt that I will pull out all my fingernails, gouge out my eyes, waterboard myself, break all my fingers, shoot myself in the fucking head, and stick needles in the head of my pecker (not necessarily in that order) before I would vote for Obama.

I also hope Pelosi loses her position as speaker and Reid loses his office in November. I can tell you I'll be voting anti-incumbent again this year.

Also, next week, I'll be badgering congressman Steve Cohen in his next town hall. He has a bad temper and I like people who have those because they tend to lose them rather quickly. I might even get thrown out, which will add even more to the overall hilarity of the evening. It makes me happy. And he's a putz. As long as he doesn't recognize my name on the list then I'm in like flynn.

Maybe it'll be on youtube! I'll have to make sure to scream "don't taze me, man!"

GonzoTheGreat
07-17-2010, 02:52 AM
I can guarantee without the shadow of a doubt that I will pull out all my fingernails, gouge out my eyes, waterboard myself, break all my fingers, shoot myself in the fucking head, and stick needles in the head of my pecker (not necessarily in that order) before I would vote for Obama.Sensible. Most of those things would be quite hard to do after you'd broken all your fingers, so saving that for last is smart.

Sei'taer
07-17-2010, 07:42 PM
Sensible. Most of those things would be quite hard to do after you'd broken all your fingers, so saving that for last is smart.


Sensibility is one of the many things I'm known for.

Kimon
07-17-2010, 09:04 PM
Just my two cents.

I have a very strong feeling that Hillary may try to run against Obama. I'm not positive about it, but I definitely see things happening that are making me think that's a strong possibility. It may change as time goes on, but for now I can see it happening.



There is no way that this would be allowed to happen Sei'taer. Ted Kennedy made this mistake against Carter and the result was allowing a paranoid idiot to become president. Reagan was nightmare enough, what do you think it would do to Hillary's legacy if she was responsible for getting Sarah Palin elected president.

Ivhon
07-17-2010, 09:35 PM
There is no way that this would be allowed to happen Sei'taer. Ted Kennedy made this mistake against Carter and the result was allowing a paranoid idiot to become president. Reagan was nightmare enough, what do you think it would do to Hillary's legacy if she was responsible for getting Sarah Palin elected president.

OMG don't say that to 'Taer.... I can hear the apoplexy from 864 miles away!

Sei'taer
07-17-2010, 09:53 PM
There is no way that this would be allowed to happen Sei'taer. Ted Kennedy made this mistake against Carter and the result was allowing a paranoid idiot to become president. Reagan was nightmare enough, what do you think it would do to Hillary's legacy if she was responsible for getting Sarah Palin elected president.

First of all, just to let you know, I'm way right of center fiscally and a little socially. I do have some libertarian views that get in the way at times, but there is very little that I swing all the way to the left on. The only one I can think of is gay marriage and I really take more of a libertarian view on that.

I hated Reagan as much as anyone (probably more than most people, but I have very good reason to and I hold a grudge for a long time. Been holding this one since 1980). He was far from a nightmare. He was a hell of a lot better than Carter, though I know a lot of people disagree with that, but it's my opinion so I get to say it and I believe it. I remember the Carter years and the Reagan years very well, and out of the two, I'll take the Reagan years.

Now, why do I have feeling Hill will run? For two reasons, A. She wants to be president really really really f'ing bad and 2. I think Obama will be tired of it by the end of his first term and won't even attempt a second. I think there's even a possibility he won't finish his first term...and a Hillary v. Biden is a sure win for Hillary either way it plays out.

As for Hillary's legacy, I couldn't give two shits about it. The only thing I will say is that she'd be better than Obama, but not much. You have no idea how fucking much I hate Obama or Hillary but of the two, I'll take Hillary.

And lastly, I seriously doubt Palin runs for persident. Looks like she may become the head of the GOP and that will probably be enough for her. She can raise a lot of money for them and I think that'll be fine with her. She knows she is soured goods as far as the left and middle of the country is concerned. I hope to god she has enough foresight to stay out. Again, my opinion and we'll have to see how it plays out. I look for Newt, Paul, Christie, maybe Pawlenty, and a couple of others to run in 2012. Hell, depending on how things go in Arizona, Jan Brewer may think she has a chance in hell at the nomination and try for it but I think that's pretty slim.

Anyway, there you go.

Sei'taer
07-17-2010, 09:55 PM
OMG don't say that to 'Taer.... I can hear the apoplexy from 864 miles away!

650 miles...that's why you could hear it so well.

Kimon
07-17-2010, 10:53 PM
First of all, just to let you know, I'm way right of center fiscally and a little socially. I do have some libertarian views that get in the way at times, but there is very little that I swing all the way to the left on. The only one I can think of is gay marriage and I really take more of a libertarian view on that.

I hated Reagan as much as anyone (probably more than most people, but I have very good reason to and I hold a grudge for a long time. Been holding this one since 1980). He was far from a nightmare. He was a hell of a lot better than Carter, though I know a lot of people disagree with that, but it's my opinion so I get to say it and I believe it. I remember the Carter years and the Reagan years very well, and out of the two, I'll take the Reagan years.

Now, why do I have feeling Hill will run? For two reasons, A. She wants to be president really really really f'ing bad and 2. I think Obama will be tired of it by the end of his first term and won't even attempt a second. I think there's even a possibility he won't finish his first term...and a Hillary v. Biden is a sure win for Hillary either way it plays out.

As for Hillary's legacy, I couldn't give two shits about it. The only thing I will say is that she'd be better than Obama, but not much. You have no idea how fucking much I hate Obama or Hillary but of the two, I'll take Hillary.

And lastly, I seriously doubt Palin runs for persident. Looks like she may become the head of the GOP and that will probably be enough for her. She can raise a lot of money for them and I think that'll be fine with her. She knows she is soured goods as far as the left and middle of the country is concerned. I hope to god she has enough foresight to stay out. Again, my opinion and we'll have to see how it plays out. I look for Newt, Paul, Christie, maybe Pawlenty, and a couple of others to run in 2012. Hell, depending on how things go in Arizona, Jan Brewer may think she has a chance in hell at the nomination and try for it but I think that's pretty slim.

Anyway, there you go.

Carter was obviously a disappointment as president, but Ted's decision to run against him was a mistake as it, along with the hostage crisis, permanently hamstringed Carter. I'm not going to bother arguing the point on whether Reagan or Carter was more inept, suffice it to say, that I am from the socialist wing of the Democrat Party, and no doubt you can use that nugget to understand why I despise Reagan. The problem of course, is that Obama, at least at present is very much reminiscent of Carter. That however still makes him vastly preferable to ANY Republican. While you may not care about Hillary's legacy, she no doubt does. I would not be surprised however if she was on the ticket in 2012 as VP in place of Biden, but she'll have to wait until 2016 to run for president.

Concerning Palin however, it is becoming difficult to see just who exactly the Republicans might unearth that could actually challenge her in those early primaries. Sure Pawlenty and Romney would have a better chance of defeating Obama in the general, but do you actually think they could defeat Palin in the S Carolina primary? The only other seeming viable Republican primary winner is Paul, and he is even less likely to stand a chance in the general against Obama than Palin. Palin is at least a charismatic nutjob, Paul is just crazy.

Sei'taer
07-17-2010, 11:23 PM
suffice it to say, that I am from the socialist wing of the Democrat Party,

After reading the above, I think that it's better that we just let this be the end of our political disussion. We'll never agree and so it's useless to continue from here.

Kimon
07-17-2010, 11:35 PM
After reading the above, I think that it's better that we just let this be the end of our political disussion. We'll never agree and so it's useless to continue from here.

Fair enough, but I often find that it is both useful and illuminating to discuss politics with someone who doesn't hold similar views on all matters, provided of course that it remains civil. Talking to someone whose ideas mirror one's own can often be boring.

Sei'taer
07-17-2010, 11:52 PM
Fair enough, but I often find that it is both useful and illuminating to discuss politics with someone who doesn't hold similar views on all matters, provided of course that it remains civil. Talking to someone whose ideas mirror one's own can often be boring.


I always try to be civil and I'm usually pretty good at it. I just find socialism unacceptable and would rather not get into a discussion about which is better. It's like beating your head on the wall, only more painful.

I'm open to discussion on pretty much anything, but I seriously doubt that in this situation it will do either of us any good. I doubt you are willing to give and I know that I am not, so it seems pointless...but if you'd like to give it a go, then I'm all yours.

ETA: Just so you know, I'm not a Republican. I think they are the center wing of the Democrat party. I have yet to find a party that meets my needs or believes what I believe...and I've looked, believe me.

GonzoTheGreat
07-18-2010, 03:47 AM
I hope to god she has enough foresight to stay out.Quite a large imagination you have there, sir.

Sei'taer
07-18-2010, 10:20 AM
Quite a large imagination you have there, sir.

Not really.

GonzoTheGreat
08-04-2010, 05:34 AM
And now it's time for the un-re-engagement (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10861660), apparently. Anyone wants to bet on when they re-re-engage?

Terez
08-04-2010, 06:41 AM
No one cares.

GonzoTheGreat
08-04-2010, 07:23 AM
Come on! This is about the family that would have won the US presidency, if it hadn't been for the dastardly actions of the ultra-liberal main stream media, who, in a communist-islamic plot, reported accurately on what Sarah Palin said and did. How can that not be important?

Sei'taer
08-04-2010, 08:37 AM
dastardly actions of the ultra-liberal main stream media, who, in a communist-islamic plot, helped a black man who was born in another country and his birth certificate was falsified and he helped the plot to blow up the federal building all while getting butt banged by Saul Alinsky, and has all the characteristics of the anti-christ, reported accurately on what Sarah Palin said and did and not accurately about the commie suck who duped everyone into voting for him. How can that not be important?


Fixed it for you.

GonzoTheGreat
08-04-2010, 08:58 AM
Fixed it for you.Thanks. Because of a plot in the main stream media, I missed some of the back ground information needed to properly represent the whole truth of the matter.

Basel Gill
08-04-2010, 09:49 AM
In this case screw politics. This story is a waste of time and energy, much like damn Lindsay Lohan and her crack, the Kardashians and whoever they're banging this week, and how many kids the Duggar's have. It seriously confuses me how anyone gives two shits about any of it.

Davian93
08-04-2010, 09:58 AM
Could you imagine if they'd actually gotten elected? There'd probably be a Meth lab set up in teh Lincoln Bedroom.