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yks 6nnetu hing
07-29-2010, 06:50 AM
there's 2:

Firstly, they've added some rights to FSB (http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/Russian-Opposition-Sees-Shadow-of-KGB-in-New-Security-Bill-98744264.html) - that's the old KGB.

Secondly, they've banned Youtube (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/29/youtube-ban-russian-regional-court)

Supposedly, these are measures to counter domestic terrorism and ban radical ideas, respectively.



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GonzoTheGreat
07-29-2010, 07:07 AM
Firstly, they've added some rights to FSB (http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/Russian-Opposition-Sees-Shadow-of-KGB-in-New-Security-Bill-98744264.html) - that's the old KGB.Are you opposed to having rights?

Secondly, they've banned Youtube (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/29/youtube-ban-russian-regional-court)Somebody probably said something. That's an obvious reasoning for banning it.

pops taer
07-29-2010, 08:12 AM
yks, I wonder. Sometime back we spoke via email about the concern that Russia might be building back up towards a complete takeover of former bloc countries. Is there any great concern for that in Estonia and other countries? Concerns me considering the efforts to reduce freedoms in Russia and keep Georgia and others under the Russian thumb.

yks 6nnetu hing
07-29-2010, 08:30 AM
yks, I wonder. Sometime back we spoke via email about the concern that Russia might be building back up towards a complete takeover of former bloc countries. Is there any great concern for that in Estonia and other countries? Concerns me considering the efforts to reduce freedoms in Russia and keep Georgia and others under the Russian thumb.

well, the three Baltic countries are in EU, UN, OECD, IMF and, most importantly, NATO, they all have forces in Afhanistan and Estonia houses the NATO cybersecurity centre, can't have that falling in Russian hands... so we've got lots of tit pending for our tat, invasion at this point is highly unlikely. For the countries that are not in EU or NATO - Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan... for those, it's much harder. Belarus, for example, is just a legality away from re-joining Russia. Georgia has been very much pro-US so they do have some hope of getting their land back... Ukraine is teetering between the two depending on how elections go, although overall I think that even though they don't particularly relish the Western embrace, they most certainly don't want to go back to Russia's bosom.

Sinistrum
07-29-2010, 12:40 PM
Secondly, they've banned Youtube

Yeah, good luck with that one Russia. I'm pretty sure no country that has attempted to ban a website has been anywhere near successful yet.

Terez
07-29-2010, 01:29 PM
I thought Russia was over tactics like this. Banning YouTube? Really?

Ivhon
07-29-2010, 01:43 PM
Een Sov'yet Rahssia, Youtube bans you....

Firseal
07-30-2010, 12:53 AM
I think after China and Iran tried things like this (with poor results) most countries would know better.

Davian93
08-02-2010, 07:09 AM
Yeah, but when Russia does it, its cool. They're like the Original Gangstas of hard-core Totalitarianism.

Rule #1 of Russian Thought: Paranoia rules everything.