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lowlandr
09-21-2010, 03:08 AM
hi guys...

after lurking and posting a bit (the great hunt), I thought it was time to give a bit of introduction...

It was March 1997... I remember walking into B&N and I ran into this huge paperback there, being VERY RED and with a blazing sword on the front... A face with flaming eyes hiding in the shadows and a man reaching for the SWORD... It felt epic (it still does)...
I bought it (couldn't find part 1) and tried reading it. I had no clue what it was about, but I was hooked. Found part 1 and read 7/8 books in 5 weeks (I was working fulltime) and always impatient for a new book ;)

WoT is actually my first.. :o ;)


besides WoT...
cheerfull with some dark sides, play World of Warcraft, play D&D (3.5 ed.), listen to all kind of music (although I tend to lean a bit to classical and metal atm), martial arts, want to learn 'go' (stones ;)) and rebuilding my home.

Nazbaque
09-21-2010, 03:16 AM
Welcome lowlandr!

You may call me Naz!

Soon I shall be set on fire and there will be roasted marshmallows.

Artur pendragon
09-21-2010, 03:25 AM
Welcome from one newbie to another.:D

Sarevok
09-21-2010, 04:25 AM
Welcome to TL, Lowlandr!

What lowland are you from?

lowlandr
09-21-2010, 05:18 AM
thnx all...


Soon I shall be set on fire and there will be roasted marshmallows.

I'm more the beer and steaks kind-of-guy ;)


What lowland are you from?

the same as yours :D

yks 6nnetu hing
09-21-2010, 07:06 AM
TL does have a rather large non-US commuity, and Dutchies make up a proportionately huge part of that.

Welcome :)

Sarevok
09-21-2010, 11:59 AM
Welcome, then! :D

Cary Sedai
09-21-2010, 01:16 PM
~sets Naz on fire, grills up some steaks~

Welcome to TL!

~hand over a plate of steaks and sprinkles fairy dust~

If my other warder comes by, he'll roll in a keg. :D

Sarevok
09-21-2010, 02:09 PM
*reads through the thread*
*realizes his last post was a bit short*
I blame being tired. :o

With this much dutch here, we're probably the 3rd country after the USA and Canada. :D

One Armed Gimp
09-21-2010, 02:42 PM
*steak please, thanks!*

Welcome!

*waiting for the keg*

DahLliA
09-21-2010, 06:43 PM
steak and a keg? I'm here !

welcome :D

lowlandr
09-22-2010, 03:23 PM
If my other warder comes by, he'll roll in a keg.

*waiting patiently* :D


With this much dutch here, we're probably the 3rd country after the USA and Canada.

well.. the Dutch are English oriented (Scandinavians too), so I'm not that surprised.


I wonder if anyone done research into the readers of the WoT. Things like age, job, education, gender, country, etc..


thnx for the welcome :)

Terez
09-22-2010, 03:27 PM
well.. the Dutch are English oriented (Scandinavians too), so I'm not that surprised.
The Finns should probably be counted among those, but I still think we get more Dutchies than Scandinavians+Finland combined.

Do you have any favorite composers, or are you one of those that just listens to classical for ambiance and doesn't really pay attention to who wrote it?

Sarevok
09-22-2010, 03:30 PM
The Finns should probably be counted among those, but I still think we get more Dutchies than Scandinavians+Finland combined.

My guess as to a reason for that would be that those countries have more people and therefore more successful writers of their own. :)

lowlandr
09-22-2010, 04:59 PM
The Finns should probably be counted among those, but I still think we get more Dutchies than Scandinavians+Finland combined.

I was under the impression when I wrote the post that Finland was part of Scandinavian, but it isn't.. I intented to include the Finns though.

While writing this post I'm starting to wonder about how well English is known in Finland. Finnish is related to Hungarian, which is related to Mongolian. Finnish and English is not related to each other.. Maybe one of the Finnish here can enlighten me.

Do you have any favorite composers, or are you one of those that just listens to classical for ambiance and doesn't really pay attention to who wrote it?

Currently I'm still trying to find out which composers/pieces I like, so suggestions are welcome.
I do pay attention to the composer, by now I've figured out some of my classical taste.
I'm not really into Bach, Bizet or Vivaldi, they are very 'irritatingly cheerfull' most of the time. I do generally like Beethoven, Mozart and Schubert.
I recently ran into this piece (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJDNSp1QJA&feature=related) by Ludovico Einaudi which really knocked my socks off.. I've done some youtubing on him, and really like his work.

a bit less traditional: I really like Michael Kamen's work which he did with Metallica. He made a very good combination between the full and soft sound of the orchestra and the sharp and hard sound of the guitars.

My guess as to a reason for that would be that those countries have more people and therefore more successful writers of their own.

I don't get your point here completely, Norway and Sweden both have about 9,5 million inhabitants, Denmark about 5,5 and Finland about 5,4. Combined (29,9) much more then the 16,6 million of the Netherlands. Considering the numbers there should have been more (about twice as much) Scandies here on TL then Dutchies...

Uno
09-22-2010, 05:19 PM
I don't get your point here completely, Norway and Sweden both have about 9,5 million inhabitants, Denmark about 5,5 and Finland about 5,4. Combined (29,9) much more then the 16,6 million of the Netherlands. Considering the numbers there should have been more (about twice as much) Scandies here on TL then Dutchies...

Norway's got slightly less than 5 million inhabitants, so you can slash a few millions off of that number.

Nazbaque
09-22-2010, 06:07 PM
While writing this post I'm starting to wonder about how well English is known in Finland. Finnish is related to Hungarian, which is related to Mongolian. Finnish and English is not related to each other.. Maybe one of the Finnish here can enlighten me.
Well. The first point is that in terms of grammar Finnish is a bit more complex than most European tongues. We grow up with it and so learning another language is really a matter of vocabulary. The second point is that our educational system requires us to study Finnish, Swedish and at least one foreign language. English is the language of computers and half the television programs so it's a natural choice.

Terez
09-22-2010, 06:14 PM
Also, didn't you say that the Finns use subtitles rather than dubbing on English films/TV? That appears to be the main thing that separates Scandinavia and the Netherlands from the rest of Europe.

Confinfantry
09-22-2010, 11:22 PM
Welcome!! glad you could make it. I am a fellow music lover myself (I studied music in college and even have my degree in it.) Glad you could join us here.

Its AWESOME to see another D&D player on here. I'm sure there are more but you are the first that I have noticed so far.. AND 3.5 you are AWESOME!!! I am currently running a 3.5 campaign set in the worlds largest dungeon and its AMAZING!!

As for music If you like piano music definitely check out some Chopin, organ music I really enjoy Bach, and for NeoRomantic music I LOVE Stravinsky! I am a huge fan of Choral music(as was my major) and Enjoy many old and new composers. If you like choral works check out Eric Whitacre he has some AMAZING pieces.

Well Peace out and once again WELCOME!

Terez
09-23-2010, 12:18 AM
I'm a piano major, so Chopin and Bach are my main loves. Since you don't like Bach, there is obviously something wrong with you, so there is no hope for you. What I mean to say is, a lot of people find Bach boring for some reason, but Chopin is more user-friendly.

Nazbaque
09-23-2010, 03:19 AM
Also, didn't you say that the Finns use subtitles rather than dubbing on English films/TV? That appears to be the main thing that separates Scandinavia and the Netherlands from the rest of Europe.
Ah yes the third point.

yks 6nnetu hing
09-23-2010, 05:30 AM
The Finns should probably be counted among those, but I still think we get more Dutchies than Scandinavians+Finland combined. I wonder where I go under this logic. Linguistically very close to Finland but geographically Eastern European since Estonia isn't on the Northern coast of the Baltic Sea. But then, neither is Denmark.

Well. The first point is that in terms of grammar Finnish is a bit more complex than most European tongues. We grow up with it and so learning another language is really a matter of vocabulary. The second point is that our educational system requires us to study Finnish, Swedish and at least one foreign language. English is the language of computers and half the television programs so it's a natural choice.

lol. A bit is an understatement. Thing is, the Finno-Ugric languages tend to be agglutinative (meaning: the ends of the words change in order to show what in English is accomplished with pronouns, articles and suchlike). This means that the whole language structure is completely different from Indo-European languages. However, once one of those languages is well learned, others aren't that difficult.In Estonia it's also one extra language that's mandatory, and often a third - the second language in most schools is English, the third is either Russian or German (with Finnish gaining ground on those two). Unless it's a Russian school, in which case the second language is Estonian, then third English.

Nazbaque
09-23-2010, 05:38 AM
Yes well, I find that understatements are generally better in the art of making points than overstatements.

EDIT: Or truths that sound like boasting for that matter. Humility is the key to understanding.

lowlandr
09-24-2010, 04:17 AM
Norway's got slightly less than 5 million inhabitants, so you can slash a few millions off of that number.

my bad, 4,6m...

Welcome!! glad you could make it. I am a fellow music lover myself (I studied music in college and even have my degree in it.) Glad you could join us here.

Its AWESOME to see another D&D player on here. I'm sure there are more but you are the first that I have noticed so far.. AND 3.5 you are AWESOME!!! I am currently running a 3.5 campaign set in the worlds largest dungeon and its AMAZING!!

As for music If you like piano music definitely check out some Chopin, organ music I really enjoy Bach, and for NeoRomantic music I LOVE Stravinsky! I am a huge fan of Choral music(as was my major) and Enjoy many old and new composers. If you like choral works check out Eric Whitacre he has some AMAZING pieces.


it would surprise me if there weren't more D&D players here. Started playing when 3.5 came out, so been a while now.. I'm having a ton of fun with it (while drinking a beer and roasting a stake) Currently we are playing 'Mysteries of the Moonsea'.

I'll give Stravinsky and Whitacre a shot:)
do you have pieces you recommend for Bach? Like I said, I haven't been into Bach, but I'm give it a second shot.. Maybe Terez will be less 'obvious' then :D


Also, didn't you say that the Finns use subtitles rather than dubbing on English films/TV? That appears to be the main thing that separates Scandinavia and the Netherlands from the rest of Europe.

never got why you would dub films/TV. I remember B.A. Baracus (Mr. T.) with a high pitched voice :eek:
It would be like reading WoT in Dutch... it would be the same, but way off at the same time.

Since you don't like Bach, there is obviously something wrong with you, so there is no hope for you.

:eek: I guess 'subtle' is you middle name... :D
but seriously, how do you think I ended up here.

Yes well, I find that understatements are generally better in the art of making points than overstatements.

EDIT: Or truths that sound like boasting for that matter. Humility is the key to understanding.
understatements with a wink or a bit of sarcasm (depending on the situation) are always good. :D

Elmindreda
09-24-2010, 06:35 AM
it would surprise me if there weren't more D&D players here.


There does seem to be a strong link between reading SF/Fantasy and playing RPGS and MMOs ;)

Currently playing D&D4 myself, but have dabbled in others (and MMOs).

Isabel
09-25-2010, 12:32 AM
Welcome lowlandr. Nice to see another dutchie here :)))

Confinfantry
09-26-2010, 03:57 PM
it would surprise me if there weren't more D&D players here. Started playing when 3.5 came out, so been a while now.. I'm having a ton of fun with it (while drinking a beer and roasting a stake) Currently we are playing 'Mysteries of the Moonsea'.

I'll give Stravinsky and Whitacre a shot:)
do you have pieces you recommend for Bach? Like I said, I haven't been into Bach, but I'm give it a second shot.. Maybe Terez will be less 'obvious' then :D



Well I do enjoy his organ works.... His Toccata and Fugue in D minor and his little Fugue in G are always great. very playful..... Bach was also a composer for the Lutheran church, and being a good Lutheran.. love his works.

lowlandr
09-28-2010, 05:54 AM
Welcome lowlandr. Nice to see another dutchie here :)))

thank you Isabel...
I think we've 'met' once on the Elf fantasy fair in '03. RJ was visiting that year, and you were specificly mentioned by RJ ;)
don't think we met personally though

Well I do enjoy his organ works.... His Toccata and Fugue in D minor and his little Fugue in G are always great. very playful..... Bach was also a composer for the Lutheran church, and being a good Lutheran.. love his works.

I'll give it a shot tonight :D

Zanguini
09-28-2010, 08:54 AM
Sorry i havnt posted here but you see... i automatically ban anything having to do with new kids on the block... and not liking bach is a sin against fairies

lowlandr
09-28-2010, 03:17 PM
Well I do enjoy his organ works.... His Toccata and Fugue in D minor and his little Fugue in G are always great. very playful..... Bach was also a composer for the Lutheran church, and being a good Lutheran.. love his works.

These were pretty good. you might find some humor out of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKRj-T4l-e8) clip
I'm still trying to find my way around classical music.. If I run into something I really like, I'll let you know.

Sorry i havnt posted here but you see... i automatically ban anything having to do with new kids on the block... and not liking bach is a sin against fairies

there are no relationships what so ever with them, so no worries... I even don't like their music ;)
I guess I'll be doing some more sinning on this board :)

Isabel
09-28-2010, 03:40 PM
Cool lowlandr, so you have seen me as the huge fangirl :)
Did you only went to the elffantasy fair or did you also go to other booksignings?

You don't know Sander, do you?

lowlandr
10-05-2010, 03:09 AM
Cool lowlandr, so you have seen me as the huge fangirl :)
Did you only went to the elffantasy fair or did you also go to other booksignings?

You don't know Sander, do you?

I only went to the fair and the signing at the fair (on Saturday, IIRC)... I remember you asking RJ if he would remember you and Sander, and his reply to it :D And me getting RAFO'd :D

and no, I don't know Sander personally.

Confinfantry
10-17-2010, 11:46 PM
These were pretty good. you might find some humor out of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKRj-T4l-e8) clip
I'm still trying to find my way around classical music.. If I run into something I really like, I'll let you know.


WOW!! Amazing he is fantastic!!!