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Galagros
10-21-2010, 09:23 PM
Well, hello everyone! I'm a big WoT fan (enough to keep an excel spreadsheet of all the 275+ named Aes Sedai in the series with some additional details, etc.), though I have never dallied much in WoT theory. In fact, I've never even lurked on a WoT forum. I jumped on the Wheel of Time boat relatively late, shortly after Crossroads of Twilight was released, if I recall. I've read through the books three times and expect to read them at least every other year for decades to come. Knowing how much my perspective on various characters and storylines, not to mention the actual writing in the books, can't wait to see what future read-throughs bring.

All that said, my name is Tony and I am 22 years old. I work in tech support at a college in Ohio. I've also been happily married for the past two years--I'm still working on getting her to read WoT, by he way. I can't wait to open up the can of worms that will be her feminist perspective! Reading is something love to do, though I do have a hard time finding novels that I really love. Because of that, I tend to re-read my favorites a lot. The dirty little secret I keep on my bookshelves are the 60+ Star Wars books I've acquired over the years. Yes, Star Wars. Most of the storylines are fairly bad and much of the writing is suspect, but I guess that's why it's a dirty little secret.

I hope to jump in and participate in some discussions over the coming days, but I'll take it slowly. I'll end the intro there, but feel free to ask questions! :)

Davian93
10-21-2010, 11:07 PM
Welcome to Theoryland!



I'm actually rereading Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn right now for some reason. I realized I hadnt read it in a good 5-6 years so I figured 'What the hell'.


What's your favorite WoT Book and/or characters?

Terez
10-22-2010, 12:18 AM
Hey there! Did you come over from tor.com? I just asked because of the avatar.

Tamyrlin
10-22-2010, 01:30 AM
Since the welcome crew seems to have gone home for the evening, I thought I'd come by and welcome you to Theoryland.

I would say most of our discussions are the genesis for creating theories, although some we bring here to have examined and tested too. So don't feel like you can't jump in, as much of what we try to do is understand the books a little bit better than we did the day before.

One of my favorites of the day comes from a new user that mentioned the blood of another man being on Perrin's face early in the series after he visited T'A'R. How that blood of another person remained on him after coming out of the dream is an ongoing discussion, but it's conversations like those that make me really enjoy the atmosphere.

I hope you enjoy the place.

lowlandr
10-22-2010, 03:48 AM
Welcome to TL!!!

Sarevok
10-22-2010, 06:03 AM
Welcome, Galagros! :)

Galagros
10-22-2010, 08:13 AM
Thanks for the welcome, everyone.


I'm actually rereading Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn right now for some reason. I realized I hadnt read it in a good 5-6 years so I figured 'What the hell'.


What's your favorite WoT Book and/or characters?

Zahn is definitely one of the best SW writers, though my personal favorite is A.C. Crispan's Han Solo Trilogy.

Choosing favorites in WoT is pretty hard, but I know that Lord of Chaos is one book that I always love reading. On subsequent reads, I have also found that I like Winter's Heart a lot, which I haven't noticed many people having on their favorite WoT novels list. As for favorite characters, I love the Aiel in general, but to name a few specific characters: it is impossible to not love Mat after Rhuidean, Aviendha, Thom, Uno, (I do actually like Cadsuane :o ), and countless others that fill the supporting role.

Hey there! Did you come over from tor.com? I just asked because of the avatar.

Yes and no. tor.com is actually the only place I've ever jumped into WoT discussions (on a few of Leigh Butler's re-read comments), but I just picked the Tor symbol for an avatar because I always use the same avatar on forums, but it is from ASOIAF, which I used to love but am coming to dislike, and that just didn't seem right to use here.


I would say most of our discussions are the genesis for creating theories, although some we bring here to have examined and tested too. So don't feel like you can't jump in, as much of what we try to do is understand the books a little bit better than we did the day before.

One of my favorites of the day comes from a new user that mentioned the blood of another man being on Perrin's face early in the series after he visited T'A'R. How that blood of another person remained on him after coming out of the dream is an ongoing discussion, but it's conversations like those that make me really enjoy the atmosphere.

One of the thoughts I have been mulling over for the past day is, where to begin? Do I search to find if something has already been discussed before?

I was listening to the last three 4th Age podcasts last night (not an easy task if you know how long those can run) and a few featured a theoryland (*snicker* the_ory_land) member/founder/admin, I can't recall which, but just the quick discussions going on in those podcasts brought up a lot of things that I had certainly never thought of.

Zanguini
10-22-2010, 09:56 AM
Greetings and Salutations now is the time I generally invite those who have an inkling to come over to the Non-WoT board and discuss his opinions with the general world with fear of reprisals and judgements being past against you... (while at the same time inflicting your reprisals and judgements on others)
Now that is out of the way... I have read a good many SW books...and I dont believe that its to be a dirty secret... I mean they are dime novels most are supposed to have enough holes you could drive a death star through (I am looking at you Dark Sabre) But every so often you come across a real gym. like I, Jedi not only is one of my favorite SW books It probably ranks in the top 10 of novels period. What did you think about the New Jedi Order?

The other Z will be along shortly with chains and her bronze bikini.

Galagros
10-22-2010, 10:11 AM
Greetings and Salutations now is the time I generally invite those who have an inkling to come over to the Non-WoT board and discuss his opinions with the general world with fear of reprisals and judgements being past against you... (while at the same time inflicting your reprisals and judgements on others)
Now that is out of the way... I have read a good many SW books...and I dont believe that its to be a dirty secret... I mean they are dime novels most are supposed to have enough holes you could drive a death star through (I am looking at you Dark Sabre) But every so often you come across a real gym. like I, Jedi not only is one of my favorite SW books It probably ranks in the top 10 of novels period. What did you think about the New Jedi Order?

The other Z will be along shortly with chains and her bronze bikini.

After reading that I'm not sure we're on the same page. By "dirty secret" I meant that I'm kind of ashamed to own them since the majority are sub-par. Did that come through? I have only attempted to read the first NJO book--and I hated it. I, Jedi was pretty good. I love what it did with taking the scenes from Jedi Academy and painting them in a new, and actually interesting, perspective.

I'm a big fan of Michael Stackpole (own 14-15 of his books). Have you read any of his non-SW novels?

Zanguini
10-22-2010, 10:23 AM
I own both his Dragon Crown Cycle and his Cartographer series ... I loved the Dragon Crown and it is my list of annual rereads. I didnt like the cartographer series very much.

Galagros
10-22-2010, 10:38 AM
I own both his Dragon Crown Cycle and his Cartographer series ... I loved the Dragon Crown and it is my list of annual rereads. I didnt like the cartographer series very much.

Agreed. I recently re-read the DragonCrown War Cycle for the 3rd or 4th time. The end scene for the prequel is one of my all-time favorite scenes in any book. As for the Age of Discovery series ... yeah, it just didn't turn out very good. The first books was OK, the second better in some respects, but worse in others, while the third books was just plain bad. I recommend checking out Once a Hero. It is difficult to find a physical copy, but easily and cheaply purchased as a ebook.

Zaela Sedai
10-22-2010, 11:11 AM
Consider yourself officially welcomed to Theoryland Gala!!! (Sry I was keeping many of our fellow TLers alive in GW last night and neglecting my greeter duties LOLI'd do anything to have my hubby appreciate this series so good luck on getting wifey to read it!!!)As I'm sure you've noticed, we have a pretty decent community of WoT fanatics over here. One of the ways that we keep it all friendly is a short list of courtesies we ask people to follow and, once in a while, actually do get followed. Imagine that! Insane people following some sort of order!


1) Don't flood the board with multiple THREADS all at once.
Allow us the time to absorb, evaluate, and discuss, OR LAUGH at one or two ideas, OR JOKES at a time. Some of us like to do a little research before responding and that can take a little time. Of course, we also have those others who are just a bit slow. Read that as "just can't handle more than one thought in their heads at once" or "dial-up modem". Your choice. I'd suggest "have a real life", but not likely. Does anyone still have dial up? Wow...it's getting hard to give the slow people an excuse

Addendum to 1) Try to stay on topic.
Going off on tangents can be super fun and is something we are all guilty of your's truly included but try and keep threads on topic unless, 1) the thread is dead or 2) the thread naturally moves over to another topic. This rule is much more lax for joke threads, pop culture threads...etc.

2) Try to back up your opinions & theories.
You'll get a lot more respect if you can. Quotes from the books (of which you CANNOT read too much) are your best weapon. Quotes from interviews are semi-acceptable. Gut feelings are pseudo-acceptable. Whitecloak blind-faith is best submitted while wearing asbestos panties.

3) Feel free to get as emotionally involved as you'd like.
Discussions can get very heated. But try not to take things personally. Remember: we only insult the ones we love. Or the ones we eventually hand over to the Trollocs.

4) Be respectful.
A lot of people have been around Theoryland for a long time. Being a Youngling means you're new around here. We do understand that you may have been reading WoT forever, but if you're gonna pick a fight regarding a WoT theory with someone who's an Elder, Ancient or Hero, understand that they've been around for a while now, and probably have posting friends. And Tamyrlin is Lord of the Board for a reason: this whole place is his brainchild. Keep that in mind. They also have posting enemies.... a good little bit of information to tuck away.

Addendum to 4: This is an international community.
In regards to the Non-WoT discussion groups, please respect the opinions of people from nations and cultures other than your own, even if you disagree with them or the policies of their leaders and politicians. Try to remember that not everyone here has the same outlook or life experience that you might. If you want to send a letter or e-mail to anyone in particular to indicate any specific moral, educational, intellectual, or genetic deficiencies they may have, feel free. Just please don't do it here.


Addendum 1 to Addendum 4: Please no angry profanity.
If you really need to tell someone off, be creative. And replacing characters with @$$ does NOT constitute creativity. I like tend to like the Shakespearean approach myself. The smarter and more subtle you are with it, just makes the person look that much more an idiot.


Addendum 2 to Addendum 4: Please be nice to Newbies.
We were all new at one time you are one right now and there is no need to come down on anyone for asking questions that to the elder community may be basic knowledge. This is for you to remember after you've been here awhile.


Addendum 3 to Addendum 4: Please TRY not to feed the Trolls.
Trust me, it ain't easy at times, but ignore the obvious instigators. Just sit yourself down between the Heroes and Ancients sharpening the WTF Couch sticks. There are many on the board who know how to deal with this breed, leave them to it. It can be quite entertaining. If things get too offensive to the population in general, Mods will intervene. We like to try and use enough wit to neutralize the trollies without help...

5) Please don't use the New Users Forum to recruit.
We have plenty of room in the other forums for begging for support for factions, theories, and the TCA. Please let the newbies look around for a while before taking sides in any pseudo-battles. ~do not feel you MUST click on Lordy's sig links and join just cause he's Lordy... it's not mandatory, butt shhhh! I did not tell you that!

6) Most important: Have Fun!
We do this because we love it and like to think that we are, at least, reasonably intelligent. Hell, some of us have deluded ourselves into believing that we've evolved into supremely intelligent beings! Half the posters here believe that divine supremacy has already come to them! My vote is for Frenzy, and myself, of course. You know the Truth when you see it. Don't let T and her massive bag o' quotes fool you there are always ways to fight back! With your on bag o'quotes of course!

We will assume some intelligence on your part. You found us, didn't you? Until you prove otherwise…and there are many who have, you'll be safe. If you get hurt if you do prove otherwise, I will offer my one free Healing…but just that once. After that you get to meet a special pair of chains, Mwahahahaa

Remember, you EARN your respect here, it's not given out freely and some may never know the pleasure.

Welcome to our little rounded corner! It’s a great time!

Enjoy!
Zaela Sedai, Official Theoryland Greeter, Mistress of Novices

Zaela Sedai
10-22-2010, 11:14 AM
The other Z will be along shortly with chains and her bronze bikini.



I'm no copy cat, i am the ONLY Z in my emerald green bikini...only thing you got right is the chains..

GonzoTheGreat
10-22-2010, 11:20 AM
From Wiki on emeralds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald):
Most emeralds are highly included, so their toughness (resistance to breakage) is classified as generally poor.Interesting, that. Quite interesting indeed.

One Armed Gimp
10-22-2010, 11:23 AM
Welcome! I think we are up to three Ohioans now.

Galagros
10-22-2010, 11:27 AM
Welcome! I think we are up to three Ohioans now.

I tend to find a high proportion of Ohioans on every forum I go to! Must be part of the pattern...

Zanguini
10-22-2010, 11:31 AM
http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=t&chtm=usa&chs=440x220&chf=bg,s,336699&chco=d0d0d0,cc0000&chd=s:99999999999999999999999999&chld=WAORCANVUTTXARMOILIAMNWIMIOHTNMSALGAFLSCVAPAN YCTMAVT

Updated list

Zaela Sedai
10-22-2010, 12:23 PM
You left off Hawaii again... you have an undisclosed issue with the state? Tru may come hurt you LOL

And you never added NC for Kitten ;)

Zanguini
10-22-2010, 12:49 PM
kitten?

Zaela Sedai
10-22-2010, 01:23 PM
/sigh

aka SP

Zanguini
10-22-2010, 01:38 PM
fixed (http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4251)

Nazbaque
02-06-2011, 06:44 AM
The Naz is back welcome number 5:

Welcome Gala!

You may call me Naz!

*Sets himself on fire*

Please do not mention Zae in a bikini! It might ruin my concentration for posting welcomes.