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Sei'taer
07-09-2008, 04:07 PM
and about 7 or 8 times in the last week. It's dumb enough that I wanted to post it, and if anyone can make sense out of, please explain...Not that I'm stupid, but I don't get what the point is supposed to be. Is it because Hawaii was not a state for long enough or what? And is that really an issue, because wouldn't citizenship be granted, or am I understandng incorrectly....here it is anyway (thanks to Cholly for the email btw...had to have come from him or his ilk)


WOW - This should be interesting if this is true.

CAN OBAMA LEGALLY BE PRESIDENT?

Hi Everyone,

I think everyone should maybe wait until next week to see if this hits the fan. I did not find anything to confirm or refute this story.

Maybe we need to contact the Attorney General or our congressmen, and get them to look at it too!

I received the message below and have searched for something to dispute it. There is nothing on SNOPES to dispute this.

CAN OBAMA BE PRESIDENT?

It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president, after all, for the following reason:

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between 'December 24,1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen, if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal.



US Law very clearly stipulates: “If only one parent was a U.S citizen at The time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the Age of 16.”



Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means although she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so, for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not yrs 21 of age. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President***. Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia... Now you can see why Obama's aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very interested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.

Interesting!! Now what? Who dropped the ball or are we all being duped?? Who do you know who you can forward this to who might be able to help answer this question?

Davian93
07-09-2008, 04:08 PM
Doesn't the exact same chain email go around about McCain because he was born in the Canal Zone...

Sei'taer
07-09-2008, 04:09 PM
prolly, although I wouldn't get that since I'm registered the wrong way...lol

Crispin's Crispian
07-09-2008, 05:12 PM
This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law.

hahahahahaha

Sinistrum
07-09-2008, 05:17 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

irerancincpkc
07-09-2008, 05:26 PM
I actually tried to follow the logic there, but it didn't work... :D

Sei'taer
07-09-2008, 05:48 PM
I actually tried to follow the logic there, but it didn't work... :D


Thats the problem I was having

Sinistrum
07-09-2008, 05:50 PM
Who needs logic when you've got blind panic to prey on. Seriously, Obama's got enough legitimate things to criticize about him without having to trump up stuff.

Davian93
07-09-2008, 06:10 PM
Who needs logic when you've got blind panic to prey on. Seriously, Obama's got enough legitimate things to criticize about him without having to trump up stuff.

Yeah like the fact that he's Muslim...

Hopper
07-09-2008, 06:20 PM
All else being equal, I'm sure that Hillary's people looked for EVERY POSSIBLE reason to disqualify Obama as a candidate? They searched under every rock they could find.

Gilshalos Sedai
07-10-2008, 07:25 AM
Nothing like the smell of scare tactics in the morning.

Mort
07-10-2008, 01:15 PM
Yeah like the fact that he's Muslim...

I thought he was a christian. Or was that one of your low flying sarcasms?

Gilshalos Sedai
07-10-2008, 01:16 PM
Its so low-flying, it buzzed the top of your head. Interesting haircut.

irerancincpkc
07-10-2008, 03:26 PM
I thought he was a christian. Or was that one of your low flying sarcasms?
I believe that was an attempt at sarcasm.

Ozymandias
07-10-2008, 04:06 PM
I thought that being born on US soil makes you a citizen?

Gilshalos Sedai
07-10-2008, 04:11 PM
The objection was that essentially, Obama was born into a territory.


However, the ignorance of this email is astounding. As Snopes said, Hawaii was a state for two full years before Obama was born, and being born into a territory still makes you a citizen, or Geo. Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc. would have had a hell of time becoming President.

GonzoTheGreat
07-10-2008, 04:21 PM
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
George the First was smart enough to build a clause into his Constitution that enabled him (and some others) to be caretaker president until they'd had time to grow the real ones.
This means, of course, that McCain could also be eligible, if he simply shows that he was already living in what is now the USA at the time of the Boston Tea Party. Surely he's old enough for that, isn't he?