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Rand al'Fain
02-09-2011, 12:33 PM
I have heard that the women from the AOL had refused to help the men seal the Dark One (never read the book or whatever it came from, which is why I'm asking), but did RJ ever say that if the women had helped that Saider would have been tainted too? I ask because when the 2 powers were used in unison with eachother, incredible things were made and done. Like the Ways, the Eye of the World, Perrin's Hammer, and the cleansing of Saiden. So in theory (unless RJ said it somewhere that I missed), couldn't the 2 powers, which overcome eachother's weaknesses, be used to completely seal the Bore without a backlash like when LTT put his seal on it?

Seeker
02-09-2011, 12:46 PM
No, RJ did in fact say that if both halves of the True Source had been used, both would have been tainted. I can't recall where he said that though.

The flaw was Lews Therin's method. He touched flows of the Power to the Dark One. Whatever, you do, you can't do that.

Mort
02-09-2011, 12:47 PM
I have heard that the women from the AOL had refused to help the men seal the Dark One (never read the book or whatever it came from, which is why I'm asking), but did RJ ever say that if the women had helped that Saider would have been tainted too? I ask because when the 2 powers were used in unison with eachother, incredible things were made and done. Like the Ways, the Eye of the World, Perrin's Hammer, and the cleansing of Saiden. So in theory (unless RJ said it somewhere that I missed), couldn't the 2 powers, which overcome eachother's weaknesses, be used to completely seal the Bore without a backlash like when LTT put his seal on it?

RJ said in an interview once that if the women had helped the way LTT did it, Saidar would have been contaminated as well. Any of the quote-monkeys could probably pull up the correct interview quote.

Also, I think The Ways were made as a gift from a male channeler sometime after the resealing of the Bore as a thanks to the Ogier for letting him reside within the Stedding for a while. ;)

GonzoTheGreat
02-09-2011, 12:47 PM
I think that the following interview quote will clarify things a bit for you:
Q: Why saidin, why not saidar, was tainted?
RJ: Because there were only men in the party that made up the party that made up the Strike at Shayol Ghul, that were setting the seals. In the act of setting the seals, there was a backblast that affected the people doing this. As I pointed out in something…I wrote a piece called The Strike at Shayol Ghul…there was a great division at the time – I don’t know if all of you have read it…or have none of you read it?
Q: Yes, yes.
RJ: Okay, then you know about the political struggles that were going on, and the different plans to try and end the War of the Shadow, and seal up the….and why various groups thought that one plan or the other was the best way to go. And in the end, what resulted was the so-called “Fatal Covenant”22 , which had the female Aes Sedai swearing not to go along with Lews Therin’s plan, that they would not support it. The result of this was that Lews Therin carried out his plan with only male Aes Sedai, so there were only male Aes Sedai channeling there, which was a lucky thing, because if there’d been women as well, then both saidin and saidar would have been tainted. And his plan worked, except for that one side effect of the backblast which tainted saidin and caused him and the men there with him to go mad there and then, and other male Aes Sedai to go mad slowly as they touched the Source and began to absorb bits of the taint. But that’s why saidar was not tainted, because there were only men there channeling during this act of sealing up the Dark One’s prison.

Rand al'Fain
02-10-2011, 12:38 AM
Thanks for the info guys!