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Artur pendragon
02-20-2011, 04:33 AM
anyone read the preview from Tor and if so thoughts?
Glad to finally see Paran come back in the plot as Master of the Deck thought he would have a bigger role his the Errant challenged him.

Sarevok
02-22-2011, 07:49 AM
On a hunch, I walked into the local bookstore during lunchtime.


I'll start reading tonight. :D:D

Davian93
02-22-2011, 12:22 PM
On a hunch, I walked into the local bookstore during lunchtime.


I'll start reading tonight. :D:D

I love local bookstores.

I also love that my local bookstore is doing fine while Borders just went under.

I gladly paid full jacket price for ToM from my local store and happily got it the Saturday before the release.

Crispin's Crispian
02-23-2011, 05:15 PM
I'm trying to decide whether to buy the hard copy or the Kindle edition. I'll probably go hard copy just because it will round out the collection. I'd like to start my kids on it when they turn eight. ;)

Seriously though, I'm pretty excited. I wish some of the ICE stuff would come out in the US sooner, though. People already have Stonewielder in the UK, but it's not even available here till May. :(

Madgod
02-23-2011, 07:06 PM
Well, there goes my hope to finish the series before the final book comes out. However, given I just finished Memories of Ice, I have a feeling that's not happening.

DahLliA
02-24-2011, 12:18 AM
I should have it in the mail any day now. can't wait :D

Sarevok
02-24-2011, 05:55 AM
Can someone link to a synopsis of Dust of Dreams? I don't get about half of what's going on... :(

Artur pendragon
02-24-2011, 02:08 PM
Can someone link to a synopsis of Dust of Dreams? I don't get about half of what's going on... :(

I know the feeling am only about a 1/4 of the way done with Dust of dreams.;)

Sarevok
02-24-2011, 04:03 PM
I know the feeling am only about a 1/4 of the way done with Dust of dreams.;)

I finished Dust of Dreams a few months ago, but now that I'm reading the Crippled God, I'm thinking "how did X end up at [place]?" I probably forgot some parts from Dust of Dreams... :(

jason wolfbrother
02-26-2011, 03:47 PM
Amazon.co.uk is your friend ;) Ordered both Crippled God and Stonewielder. Of course I'm still waiting for them to arrive. Estimated arrival March 5th or thereabouts. Meanwhile I'm rereading the series from the beginning :). I had forgotten just how badass Anomander Rake was in GotM :) :cool:

DahLliA
03-08-2011, 05:43 AM
almost done with the Crippled God now. and I gotta say I'm impressed so far. he's managing to tie up most of the loose ends without it feeling forced. except the whole Gruntle thing. didn't really see the point of that

Sarevok
03-08-2011, 12:53 PM
almost done with the Crippled God now. and I gotta say I'm impressed so far. he's managing to tie up most of the loose ends without it feeling forced. except the whole Gruntle thing. didn't really see the point of that

note to self: stop reading this thread!

I'm not even halfway through. :(

Crispin's Crispian
03-10-2011, 12:28 PM
note to self: stop reading this thread!

I'm not even halfway through. :(

I'm halfway through or so, and I agree with Dahl. Well, except for Gruntle because that hasn't been resolved yet where I am.

It's getting to the point, though, where if certain plot lines continue much longer without a change, it's going to get boring. I'm hopeful, because something really big just happened and it feels like it's all downhill from this point.

DahLliA
03-15-2011, 05:41 AM
I'm halfway through or so, and I agree with Dahl. Well, except for Gruntle because that hasn't been resolved yet where I am.

It's getting to the point, though, where if certain plot lines continue much longer without a change, it's going to get boring. I'm hopeful, because something really big just happened and it feels like it's all downhill from this point.

finished the book on the train last night. and I almost fell a tear at the end. at least I've had my expectations filled and more.

a couple of plot lines could have been resolved a bit better of course. but just managing to resolve most of them is a huge feat.

not to mention all the brilliant quotes

Crispin's Crispian
03-17-2011, 02:38 PM
finished the book on the train last night. and I almost fell a tear at the end. at least I've had my expectations filled and more.

a couple of plot lines could have been resolved a bit better of course. but just managing to resolve most of them is a huge feat.

not to mention all the brilliant quotes

Just finished it this AM, and I completely agree. I thought the book was really very good, and quite satisfying.

As far as plot lines go:


Icarium: Just sad. I wasn't sure whether to expect more, but I was wanting more. Poor Mappo...tragic.

Tool: I like the idea of his family reuniting, and absent the rest of the happiness this would have worked very well. However, I thought it was a little too convenient. I guess when I realized it was Toc that put it together, it makes it much better.

Last minute salvation...seemed to be the story of the book. The Andii show up to save the Shore, Mael's dagger makes water, Hood on the Spire, Silchas/Tulas's Storm keeps Korabas alive long enough, Ganoes saves the regulars, QB and Kalam save the marines. All of them together seemed contrived to keep certain characters alive against unbelievable odds. I mean, with all the tragedy and death, I guess the balance had to be a little tipped.

Crippled God: Not that I'm surprised, but suddenly he's a good, compassionate guy? Seemed like a quick turnaround from the guy who was using the Pannion/Crazy Matron and assholes like that pedophile guy in HoC and Kallor.

Tavore: Would have liked to see a little more with her and her brother, but alas... Interesting how her entire motivation and source of strength were ineffable to everyone, and remained so at the end. Was it compassion? Was it guilt over Felisin? Was it an overactive sense of duty and work ethic? No one knows, but in the end it didn't matter.

Quick Ben: We're never going to get his whole story, are we? Ruthan Gudd knew him somehow, as did Banaschar. And he told Paran that some of his souls were really, really old. But that's all we get. No idea who Adaephon Delat really is or was. :(

DahLliA
03-19-2011, 05:49 PM
for Crispin:

well. there's always outlier book as far as Quick Ben goes(here's to hoping)

and I figured that Tavore was a Talon and we know how serious they are about their assignements. so I think Dancer had something to do with it

Sarevok
03-29-2011, 09:35 AM
Finished the book yesterday. One thing bothered me:
Towards the end Neb Furrow (correct spelling? Don't have the book here) says something that is even more incomprehensible than his usual speech. From the reaction of the people around him it's something profound but... what did he say? :confused:

Crispin's Crispian
03-29-2011, 01:02 PM
Finished the book yesterday. One thing bothered me:
Towards the end Neb Furrow (correct spelling? Don't have the book here) says something that is even more incomprehensible than his usual speech. From the reaction of the people around him it's something profound but... what did he say? :confused:

I think you mean this part, which confused me, too:


**************
'Where'en ne faareden? Eh? War bit ana dem?'
'To the families if they got any, Nep. That's how it's done. Stand or fall, you still get paid.'
'G'han nered pah vreem!'
Sinter made a startled sound, and beside her Kisswhere leaned forward to shoot Nep Furrow a shocked look.
'Really, Nep?' Kisswhere asked.
'Nepel!'
'Gods below,' Sinter whispered. 'I never....'
**************


My best guess is that he's asking where the pay goes for fallen soldiers. "Faareden" sounds like "fallen" if you pronounce the "l" like a "d".

'G'han nered pah vremm!'

Not really sure. Someone on MalazanEmpire thought it was, "They're never gonna pay for me!" but that doesn't make sense with the sisters' reaction.

I think it's more likely he's saying someone else never got money, but I'm not sure.

Sarevok
03-29-2011, 04:07 PM
On Malazan Empire someone thinks:
'Where'en ne faareden? Eh? War bit ana dem?
Wherein the fallen? (as in "Where is the money for the fallen going?) Eh? What about any of them?

'G'han nered pah vreem!'

Gonna never pay for me. (Referring to his goal of never dying - kinda like a One Eye/Goblin tribute in a way)

'Nepel!'

Never! (I have no idea why he says "Never" two different ways, but he does. It's awesome.)

For the 2nd line, I think it's more probable he's saying:
"Gonna never pay for 'em" (i.e. "for them")
Which makes sense, since when anyone from the army tries to go back in any official capacity (not like the old man playing the fiddle in some tavern ;) ), they'll still be killed as the outlaws they probably still are...

DahLliA
03-29-2011, 07:25 PM
two big quesions though:

did they kill the Crippled God or did they set him free. Koryk's reaction and Fiddler's comment make it seem like he just died. but I don't see Mael and K'rul or Cotillion pulling something like that.

and who was Nefarias Bredd? :o

Sarevok
03-30-2011, 04:50 AM
As some (I think Mael?) mentioned several pages earlier, the body the Crippled God got on his ressurection is not suitable to for what needed to be done. As such, it was only a temporary container. The god's body had to be killed to let him leave, which Koryk didn't understand at first. Fiddler's reaction is (iirc, don't have the book here) along the lines of "When he [Koryk] figures it out, he'll be fine."
Note that right after the god's death, something jade-coloured is see spinning into the sky.

Crispin's Crispian
03-30-2011, 04:53 PM
As some (I think Mael?) mentioned several pages earlier, the body the Crippled God got on his ressurection is not suitable to for what needed to be done. As such, it was only a temporary container. The god's body had to be killed to let him leave, which Koryk didn't understand at first. Fiddler's reaction is (iirc, don't have the book here) along the lines of "When he [Koryk] figures it out, he'll be fine."
Note that right after the god's death, something jade-coloured is see spinning into the sky.
That's the impression I got.

As to Dahl's second question:

I figured he was either a random regular that no one expected, or a hallucination. I don't think he was someone we already know.

Sarevok
03-30-2011, 05:28 PM
He was mentioned in one of the books halfway through. It went along the lines of:
Heavy talking to marine: [something about Nefarias Bredd]
Later: Marine: [asks something about Nefarias Bred]
Heavy2: [laughs and explains that Nefarias Bredd is some kind of legendary heavy to whom a bunch of improbable stuff is attributed, but he's probably just a myth]

Crispin's Crispian
03-30-2011, 05:46 PM
He was mentioned in one of the books halfway through. It went along the lines of:
Heavy talking to marine: [something about Nefarias Bredd]
Later: Marine: [asks something about Nefarias Bred]
Heavy2: [laughs and explains that Nefarias Bredd is some kind of legendary heavy to whom a bunch of improbable stuff is attributed, but he's probably just a myth]

Right, but I thought the question was whether that was actually him at the end, or just an apparition.

Sarevok
03-30-2011, 05:51 PM
Right, but I thought the question was whether that was actually him at the end, or just an apparition.

no idea :o

jason wolfbrother
05-18-2011, 11:54 PM
Well I finally finished the book. I was pleasantly surprised and impressed by how many separate threads were tied off, questions answered, and yet so much was left unanswered.

to name a few that come to mind

Quick Ben?

The Emperor's "Demon"?

What's next for Karsa?

Fisher Kel Tath?

Overall I really liked the book. A good ending and well done. Now I need a new book series to tide me over until aMoL comes out in November?.

DahLliA
05-19-2011, 10:24 AM
Well I finally finished the book. I was pleasantly surprised and impressed by how many separate threads were tied off, questions answered, and yet so much was left unanswered.

to name a few that come to mind

Quick Ben?

The Emperor's "Demon"?

What's next for Karsa?

Fisher Kel Tath?

Overall I really liked the book. A good ending and well done. Now I need a new book series to tide me over until aMoL comes out in November?.

hopefully we'll get some outriggers(outliers?) that answer some of that stuff.

and if you haven't read them, the Black Company books are a decent read. at least I got a Bridgeburners vibe from them :p

Crispin's Crispian
05-19-2011, 07:05 PM
I don't think we'll ever get an answer on QB. Karsa is supposed to have his own set of outriggers. Not sure about the demon--I thought it was just a funny vignette about Fid.

DahLliA
05-19-2011, 07:52 PM
I don't think we'll ever get an answer on QB. Karsa is supposed to have his own set of outriggers. Not sure about the demon--I thought it was just a funny vignette about Fid.

might be a bit difficult to write stuff about QB since he went from being not too powerful, but sneaky as hell, into demigod overnight in Reaper's Gale(think that's where he whoops Silchas' butt).

never really felt right about that.

and why Karsa? I like his character, but I at least feel like I've gotten enough of him.

not sure how interesting it would be to read about how he destroys civilization just for the hell of it :p

jason wolfbrother
05-20-2011, 01:10 PM
I agree about Karsa. I like him and all but I don't see the need for any more of his story. We already know he will do what he says he will do. "Witness" ;) :cool: The Quick Ben story I would like to read is the group of twelve and their path to the city they fled from into Raraku when being pursued by Whiskeyjack and his battalion. Some back story for each of the twelve souls that inhabit Quick Ben. Find out more about them than the teaser we were given in MoI. I don't think they even listed all twelve souls did they? I can only remember 6 or 7 myself. Maybe I'll look it up later.

DahLliA
05-24-2011, 04:24 PM
I agree about Karsa. I like him and all but I don't see the need for any more of his story. We already know he will do what he says he will do. "Witness" ;) :cool: The Quick Ben story I would like to read is the group of twelve and their path to the city they fled from into Raraku when being pursued by Whiskeyjack and his battalion. Some back story for each of the twelve souls that inhabit Quick Ben. Find out more about them than the teaser we were given in MoI. I don't think they even listed all twelve souls did they? I can only remember 6 or 7 myself. Maybe I'll look it up later.

yeah. that would be awesome. also some backstory on Kalam and how he managed to become a super claw-> go rogue and then join the Bridgeburners without Laseen finding him(not like the Bridgeburners are the most anonymous platoon in the empire's military

jason wolfbrother
05-24-2011, 10:14 PM
Something else that popped into my head today that I would like to read would be the confrontation between the Seguleh 2nd and Skinner, and why he hates Skinner so much (not that you really need much of a reason).

Another story that would be nice would be Assail. So much to tell there. Silverfox and the T'lan Imass, the human Tyrants that are kicking so much butt, Kyle and his tribe and what makes them so dang tough, the "cousins" as well.

DahLliA
05-30-2011, 06:06 PM
Something else that popped into my head today that I would like to read would be the confrontation between the Seguleh 2nd and Skinner, and why he hates Skinner so much (not that you really need much of a reason).

Another story that would be nice would be Assail. So much to tell there. Silverfox and the T'lan Imass, the human Tyrants that are kicking so much butt, Kyle and his tribe and what makes them so dang tough, the "cousins" as well.

agreed. really wonder what is going on in Assail. though I'm pretty sure ICE will take care of that if it's ever taken care of.

on that note I wonder what the Crimson Guard "tapped into" with their vow.

someone suggested it might be a piece of the Crippled God, but I think it would be lame if every weird thing is connected to him in some way

SauceyBlueConfetti
09-02-2011, 11:57 AM
Well, I finally finished it this past week. Sniffle. The worst part about last books is IT IS OVER. But not really, I have only read 2 of the 4 novellas, and haven't even peeked in a bookstore at the companion book(s) by his cohort.

I was very satisfied with the ending, but it did seem that a ton of the cast of characters from other books were kind of...pointless?...ignored?...dismissed too quickly?

still, very enjoyable. I want a re-read for some significant plot details that I am foggy about...I did a bunch of "oh, yeah! forgot that!" moments in this book because I have never done a full re-read. Now to find the time to go through all ten books again. And my WoT reread before 2012. And my GRRM reread. And starting the Black Company books.

I knew Erikson was a romantic, just didn't realize HOW MUCH of a romantic. Things did choke me up a bit in this book.

Favorite scene? The T'Lan Imass. The timing was...unfortunate. lololol.

SauceyBlueConfetti
09-02-2011, 12:11 PM
Has anyone read Stonewielder?

SauceyBlueConfetti
09-02-2011, 12:34 PM
And WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO BLISTIG?

The last I remember he was in the line during the attack, raging and battlelust galore. Did I miss his end? Or, his survival?

DahLliA
09-02-2011, 12:52 PM
Has anyone read Stonewielder?

yeah. and I liked it. not quite up with Erikson, but very good nontheless(nonetheless?)

and I can't remember what happened to Blistig either