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ShadowbaneX
10-21-2011, 10:54 AM
New superconductor tech makes for floating awesomeness (http://io9.com/5850729/quantum-locking-will-blow-your-mind--but-how-does-it-work).

Saw this and had to share. It's utterly awesome science. Really makes me wonder what the next gen super trains are going to be like this.

Davian93
10-21-2011, 10:56 AM
New superconductor tech makes for floating awesomeness (http://io9.com/5850729/quantum-locking-will-blow-your-mind--but-how-does-it-work).

Saw this and had to share. It's utterly awesome science. Really makes me wonder what the next gen super trains are going to be like this.

Trains are socialist.

SauceyBlueConfetti
10-21-2011, 10:57 AM
I want my flying car!!!

ShadowbaneX
10-21-2011, 11:09 AM
Yes they are Dav...and they're awesome.

Davian93
10-21-2011, 11:17 AM
There is some serious nerdage going on in the article's comments...too funny to read.

Bryan Blaire
10-21-2011, 11:22 AM
How the heck is a train inherently any sociopolitical philosophy on its own?

That really is awesome, and the nerdage is great! I'm trying to imagine the engineering applications for something like a space elevator using this stuff. You'd have to worry about gravitational effects and atmospheric friction, but I wonder just how much this would reduce the energy requirement for it. After all, once you're past a point in the atmo, you shouldn't have to cool it any more. :D

Davian93
10-21-2011, 11:26 AM
How the heck is a train inherently any sociopolitical philosophy on its own?



Because they're mass transit, dont make money for commercial travel and "European"...even though the US led the way on train development in the 19th century. Every criticism made of trains can also be made of the US Highway system...except for the fact that trains aren't based on a Nazi design. The same could be said of Air Travel subsidies too but for some reason the bashers always single out trains as the socialist devil. Sure, as a transit option, they're probably not a feasible option in some parts of the country (like flyover country where the population doesnt support such a huge infrastructure project) but a place like the NE Corridor is perfect for such projects and trains work there.

Bryan Blaire
10-21-2011, 11:31 AM
Everyone knows there are trains in India as a big form of transpo, and that country is probably more cut-throat-ly capitalist than we are in the US...

Davian93
10-21-2011, 11:37 AM
Everyone knows there are trains in India as a big form of transpo, and that country is probably more cut-throat-ly capitalist than we are in the US...

Nope, trains are socialist. Go google any of the articles concerning the mass transit proposals in the Stimulus...every single one was ripped as "Socialist".

Uno
10-21-2011, 11:39 AM
We're not living in the future, and here's why: The other day my dishwasher stopped working. It's fixed now, but that's not the point. The point is that I shouldn't need a dishwasher at all, as my robot maid should be doing that kind of thing. No robots means not in the future. Well-known fact.

Bryan Blaire
10-21-2011, 11:45 AM
Dav, I understand what you are saying, that doesn't change the fact that an unreasoning object or system of said objects by themselves can have a sociopolitical view... People's views of them, completely different subject. The trains aren't inherently socialist, a proposed usage system could be.

Regardless, I want a train to downtown so I can stop dragging Gil's happy keister down there, since we only have the one small car.

Bryan Blaire
10-21-2011, 11:46 AM
We're not living in the future, and here's why: The other day my dishwasher stopped working. It's fixed now, but that's not the point. The point is that I shouldn't need a dishwasher at all, as my robot maid should be doing that kind of thing. No robots means not in the future. Well-known fact.

I might be able to build you a Lego one with some of their kits if you are willing to front the cash and have some patience for experimentation. :D

ShadowbaneX
10-21-2011, 11:53 AM
Robot-Maids are the Middle Future. The Beginning Future is cell phones, internet and hovering crap. The latter is where we are now.

ShadowbaneX
10-21-2011, 11:55 AM
If this is the future and it's gonna be awesome for trains does that mean that Socialism if the Future as well?

Uno
10-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Robot-Maids are the Middle Future. The Beginning Future is cell phones, internet and hovering crap. The latter is where we are now.

As I understand it, the future will be a lot like the early 1960s, but with robots and flying cars. There probably won't be computers like we think of them--rather, some giant monstrosities that spew out long reams of paper when they give you an answer. Well-known fact.

Khoram
10-21-2011, 12:40 PM
As I understand it, the future will be a lot like the early 1960s, but with robots and flying cars. There probably won't be computers like we think of them--rather, some giant monstrosities that spew out long reams of paper when they give you an answer. Well-known fact.

So we're stuck in a cycle, then? If the future is the 60s, then the Further Future is now - ergo, stuck in a cycle.

GonzoTheGreat
10-21-2011, 12:52 PM
Of course. Time is like a hula hoop. Which, of course, is a thing both of the past and the future. Actually, this entire site is dedicated to discussing the Hula Hoop of Time*.

* Someone made a spelling mistake in the abbreviation, accidentally substituting "u" for "h". The rest is history. Or uistory. Hhhatever.

Zombie Sammael
10-21-2011, 05:36 PM
Of course. Time is like a hula hoop. Which, of course, is a thing both of the past and the future. Actually, this entire site is dedicated to discussing the Hula Hoop of Time*.

* Someone made a spelling mistake in the abbreviation, accidentally substituting "u" for "h". The rest is history. Or uistory. Hhhatever.

Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey?

Sukoto
10-21-2011, 05:43 PM
Robot-Maids are the Middle Future. The Beginning Future is cell phones, internet and hovering crap. The latter is where we are now.
What comes after Middle Future?

Crispin's Crispian
10-21-2011, 05:56 PM
What comes after Middle Future?

The Latter Future, which is why this is confusing.

And Bryan, trains in and of themselves can't be socialist because they refrain from politico-economic activity, but socialists ride trains. Get it?

Sukoto
10-21-2011, 06:06 PM
The Latter Future, which is why this is confusing.

And Bryan, trains in and of themselves can't be socialist because they refrain from politico-economic activity, but socialists ride trains. Get it?
And furthermore Dav was just jabbing the idiot politicians who cry "Socialist" every time someone proposes something sensible, like more trains in heavily populated areas.

Ivhon
10-21-2011, 06:16 PM
Dav, I understand what you are saying, that doesn't change the fact that an unreasoning object or system of said objects by themselves can have a sociopolitical view... People's views of them, completely different subject. The trains aren't inherently socialist, a proposed usage system could be.

Regardless, I want a train to downtown so I can stop dragging Gil's happy keister down there, since we only have the one small car.

Don't sit there and try to bamboozleate me with your elitist philosopherizations. Socialist Europe uses trains, therefore trains are socialist.

Juan
10-21-2011, 06:50 PM
I saw the video... Im not much of a science person but that's pretty badass.

Bryan Blaire
10-22-2011, 11:01 AM
Don't sit there and try to bamboozleate me with your elitist philosopherizations. Socialist Europe uses trains, therefore trains are socialist.

Hey now, be careful, you may have just called someone with conservative leanings a person capable of making elitist philosopherizations. :D

Yes, guys, I get what Davian was doing. I don't think that Davian took my question seriously either. I realize that there are always going to be ding-dongs that are unreasonable and shout "socialism" but honestly, they'll do that about just about anything.

In a more serious vein, I will say I've gotten tired of Houston's constant proposals for new light rail lines only to be from the more affluent areas to downtown or across downtown to the sports venues.

I saw the video... Im not much of a science person but that's pretty badass.
Yes, yes it is. Now I need some creative engineers and financial backing. Who wants to play venture capitalist?

Ishara
10-24-2011, 07:49 AM
The Latter Future, which is why this is confusing.

And Bryan, trains in and of themselves can't be socialist because they refrain from politico-economic activity, but socialists ride trains. Get it?

Heh. I totally take the train. LOL.

Davian93
10-24-2011, 09:22 AM
Heh. I totally take the train. LOL.

You're also a socialist...see the connection?

Ivhon
10-24-2011, 09:26 AM
You're also a socialist...see the connection?

goddamn...its like magic. Looks like we have a new litmus test

"Isn't it true, Senator, that in 1987 you took an Amtrak train from Boston to DC? Well. That might be OK in YOUR book, Senator, but the American People don't want a train-riding socialist in office!!"

Davian93
10-24-2011, 10:23 AM
goddamn...its like magic. Looks like we have a new litmus test

"Isn't it true, Senator, that in 1987 you took an Amtrak train from Boston to DC? Well. That might be OK in YOUR book, Senator, but the American People don't want a train-riding socialist in office!!"

Joe Biden is renowned for riding Amtrak from DC to Wilmington and back when he was a Senator. How can Obama justify having a card-carrying communist as his VP?

Khoram
10-24-2011, 11:02 AM
Joe Biden is renowned for riding Amtrak from DC to Wilmington and back when he was a Senator. How can Obama justify having a card-carrying communist as his VP?

Obama's secretly a commie? Why else would he do that willingly? :D UNLESS he was coerced into it...

Maybe... maybe Obama's just a pawn in the commies' scheme to take over the US! :eek: