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littleleicesterfox
11-21-2011, 06:54 AM
Right, I am off to the q&a session tonight in Milton Keynes with Brandon and I don't want to ask something that covers old ground so I was wondering: what question should I ask Brandon?

I'm a lurker on here rather than a poster so please be nice :) All suggestions apart from ones about Asmodean's death are taken seriously (jk). I want to ask a good question, hopefully one that will not get RAFO as a response (fingers crossed, hey?)

GonzoTheGreat
11-21-2011, 07:02 AM
Why doesn't the Dark One use meteor strikes?
Messing around with the weather may be a bit easier, but it is also far easier to counteract, and simpler to spot too.

WinespringBrother
11-21-2011, 07:54 AM
Why doesn't the Dark One use meteor strikes?
Messing around with the weather may be a bit easier, but it is also far easier to counteract, and simpler to spot too.

If he hits Rand, he is back to square one.

Terez
11-21-2011, 07:59 AM
Right, I am off to the q&a session tonight in Milton Keynes with Brandon and I don't want to ask something that covers old ground so I was wondering: what question should I ask Brandon?

I'm a lurker on here rather than a poster so please be nice :) All suggestions apart from ones about Asmodean's death are taken seriously (jk). I want to ask a good question, hopefully one that will not get RAFO as a response (fingers crossed, hey?)Ask him if Rand's question about how to 'win and survive' the Last Battle counted as two questions.

Landro
11-21-2011, 08:05 AM
Will maybe get answered:
- Does Calandor exist in T'A'R?
- Will the people from the land of the madmen play a role in aMoL?
- Did Moiraine go through he stone arch while it was still in Ruidean?


Will probably be RAFO'd:
- Where is Demandred hiding?
- Was the person we know a Taim who is currently leading the Black Tower the same as the one who declared himself as a false Dragon?
- Was Aviendas second trip though the glass columns in Ruidean affected by the dream Ter'Angreal she was carrying?
- Where did Moiraine learn Balefire?
- Is Moiraine still bound by the original 3 oaths.

maacaroni
11-21-2011, 08:07 AM
ask him if he saw the concrete cows.

Terez
11-21-2011, 08:12 AM
Will maybe get answered:
- Does Calandor exist in T'A'R?Yes, it has a reflection like everything else; we have seen it. Whether or not it's a stable reflection depends on how often it is moved around.


Will the people from the land of the madmen play a role in aMoL?Probably not.

Did Moiraine go through he stone arch while it was still in Ruidean?If she had, she wouldn't have been able to go through it again.

littleleicesterfox
11-21-2011, 08:20 AM
ask him if he saw the concrete cows.

lol!

frenchie
11-21-2011, 08:32 AM
Is Moiraine still bound by the original 3 oaths.


Since she wasn't severed, just had her strength decreased, she is still bound.

Landro
11-21-2011, 08:47 AM
Since she wasn't severed, just had her strength decreased, she is still bound.

There are 2 binders we know of (the oath rod and the one Therava has). There are likely more that survived the breaking and for all we know there might be other ways to remove the oaths

Landro
11-21-2011, 08:50 AM
Yes, it has a reflection like everything else; we have seen it. Whether or not it's a stable reflection depends on how often it is moved around.

It's my pet theory that the bore has to be sealed in T'A'R. The answer to this question may shed more light on my theory.


If she had, she wouldn't have been able to go through it again.

Unless part of the price she had to pay was to come back with another channeler.

littleleicesterfox
11-21-2011, 08:59 AM
Right guys, I have written all of these down and I will ask as many as I get the chance to!

I will make extensive notes of all questions asked and I'll post a summary in the next couple of days.

Thanks for your help.

littleleicesterfox
11-21-2011, 04:20 PM
Quick quick summary, I'll post a longer write up later.

Terez: the win and survive counted as ONE question, very direct answer there :)

Mazrim Taim - is he the same man as the guy who proclaimed himself as a flase dragon (tired you know what I mean): RAFO

Another lurking Theorylander was there, very good question, very interesting answers. Will post more tomorrow x

Terez
11-21-2011, 04:35 PM
Thanks! I tried to get that one in on the torchat the other day but was unsuccessful.

Landro
11-22-2011, 04:01 AM
Mazrim Taim - is he the same man as the guy who proclaimed himself as a flase dragon (tired you know what I mean): RAFO

Thanks for asking the question. I was 99% he'd RAFO that one :)
I'm guessing the real Taim was replaced before he showed up for Rand's amnesty. Ishy/Morridin is my favorite candidate because Taim seems to copying Rand's Motions like holding his hand behind his back and because of the colors used in the BT. Belal is my backup choice (This assumes Moiraine's Balefire was weak enough the DO could still grab his soul.)

littleleicesterfox
11-22-2011, 06:56 AM
Yeah I was fairly certain he'd RAFO that one too as it's something I'm itching to know myself. To be fair, in my head that question isn't whether Taim is still the original Taim but who Taim now is :) I asked that one specifically because it was on my personal list to ask as well; it is nice to know that my own personal questions aren't too noobish lol.

But you got me a RAFO card in the post! And for that I am grateful - no true fan can get through the saga without having had a RAFO :)

Right, the question asked by another British Theorylander who was a thoroughly lovely guy to chat to but I'll let him identify himself was: "How did Egwene easily break free from the a'dam placed upon her in T'a'R by Mesaana when the a'dam placed upon Moghedien (a mistress of T'a'R) was so effective?' This got Brandon thinking hard but he RAFO'd it in the end but he did say 'are you a theorylander?' which did make us laugh :)

maacaroni
11-22-2011, 07:08 AM
Doesn't Egwene explain why it didn't work in the book?

yks 6nnetu hing
11-22-2011, 07:13 AM
Right, the question asked by another British Theorylander who was a thoroughly lovely guy to chat to but I'll let him identify himself was: "How did Egwene easily break free from the a'dam placed upon her in T'a'R by Mesaana when the a'dam placed upon Moghedien (a mistress of T'a'R) was so effective?' This got Brandon thinking hard but he RAFO'd it in the end but he did say 'are you a theorylander?' which did make us laugh :)

ooh, that's a good one! Maybe it has to do with how she was in T'A'R combined with the fact that it's not mentioned anywhere that she was a particularly strong presence in T'A'R in the Age of Legends, presumably her ability to keep a firm mind on "reality" in T'A'R would not be instinctive, so perhaps that's why Egwene broke through. Mesaana wasn't a Dreamer but Egwene was, to put it simply. Now, the more interesting question is, why didn't Moghedien break through? She should have, in those particular circumstances. Maybe she knew too well what was applied to her and she froze in panic and fear?

GonzoTheGreat
11-22-2011, 07:47 AM
Moghedien probably didn't think of it.
After all, if she'd had the ability to think things through, she wouldn't have become a Forsaken in the first place.

maacaroni
11-22-2011, 07:48 AM
The book states that she 'accepted' the power of the a'dam. I think that means that while she was the queen of TAR, she is in essence a coward.

AbbeyRoad
11-22-2011, 08:00 AM
it's not mentioned anywhere that she was a particularly strong presence in T'A'R in the Age of Legends, presumably her ability to keep a firm mind on "reality" in T'A'R would not be instinctive, so perhaps that's why Egwene broke through
Moghedien was/is the strongest Forsaken Dreamer (despite Lanfear's claims). However, it seems to be that being powerful in T'A'R is contingent solely on how strong a sense of self you have; by making yourself believe with absolute conviction that what you are attempting to do will work. And Egwene certainly seems to have a vastly stronger constitution than Moghedien, who comes across as a weakling in regards to force of will.

Davian93
11-22-2011, 08:12 AM
Egwene didnt break free from the a'dam in TAR...the Amyrlin did. You see, and I learned this in the last book, they are two separate people. There is also a soul/spirit involved making it a trinity of beings that are 1 and also 3 at the same time.

Figbiscuit
11-22-2011, 08:25 AM
Never mind all that, who was the other Theorylander?? ;)

JOS
11-22-2011, 02:59 PM
Egwene didnt break free from the a'dam in TAR...the Amyrlin did. You see, and I learned this in the last book, they are two separate people. There is also a soul/spirit involved making it a trinity of beings that are 1 and also 3 at the same time.

This is the first I have heard of any such thing in the series ...

Is there a quote or some kind of theory developed? This would make the whole HotH souls situation different from what the general fandom thinks. Maybe Felix can point me in the right direction if you can't. Sounds like magic mushrooms might be involved.

LordJuss
11-22-2011, 03:00 PM
That would be me.

I wrote up a full account of the signing and Q&A today and I'll try to get it posted on Dragonmount in the next day or so. It's quite long but I'll post it here if people are interested.

LJ.

PS: Hi fox, nice to meet ya.

Terez
11-22-2011, 03:14 PM
That would be me.

I wrote up a full account of the signing and Q&A today and I'll try to get it posted on Dragonmount in the next day or so. It's quite long but I'll post it here if people are interested.

LJ.

PS: Hi fox, nice to meet ya.Awesome - let us know when you post it! :)

Weiramon
11-22-2011, 03:52 PM
Doesn't Egwene explain why it didn't work in the book?

Burn my soul, it's not as though that young puppet of an Amyrlin had just witnessed balefire being willed away.

eht slat meit
11-22-2011, 06:32 PM
The part in question is ToM, ch38, pg591.

It seems likely to me that it has less to do with Egwene being the Amyrlin (though this is what she claims), than her either playing cagey with insanely dangerous information or a misinterpretation of the insight she gained from Perrin blowing off the balefire weave in the previous chapter (pg 581).

The insight - that 'things' in TAR have absolutely no power over a person except that which they are allowed. Like an illusion magic in a roleplaying game, it can affect you if your understanding is not complete.

By things, I refer to anything that is not a dreamer (lower-case d). Stuff like a'dam and weaves, more mundane chairs or anything else. This is an extension of the control over the things one is wearing. If you can simply make a new dress disappear and be replaced by another... or simply go nude, the same should apply to any Thing.

I suspect that Moghedien's mastery of TAR is a matter of degrees relative to everyone else, rather than absolute mastery. A general practitioner may be more skilled in health care than an intern, but that doesn't make them a specialist.

On a related note, Moghedien's field of specialty is in manipulating people, not things.

LordJuss
11-24-2011, 04:22 AM
Hiya,

Dragonmount are just proofreading so the report should be up in the next day or so.

Regarding the Egwene/Moghedien/a'dam question, there are several possible answers including Egwene's being the amyrlin, being a dreamer, and seeing Perrin's approach to the dreamworld (all of which have been suggested here). Given the number of possibilities, I was interested whether Brandon would specify which is was.

But for me the core of the question was not how Egwene had managed it, but why Moghedien hadn't, even though she was regarded as the master of tel'aran'rhiod.

My theory is that she, like all Aes Sedai, viewed channelling as somehow separate from the principles of the dreamworld. They believed they were actually channeling the power, whereas in fact they were simply creating the appearance and effect of channelling through pure thought. Only Perrin, trained as he is by natives of the dreamworld, moves beyond this to realise that everything there is a creation of thought and can thus be contolled. This is what he demonstrates to Egwene.

Interestingly that implies that a sufficiently skilled non-channelling dreamer could channel in t'a'r simply by creating the desired effect.

Anyway, all this is hypothetical, so I wanted to know the gospel truth. The fact that Brandon RAFO'd it makes me think there's more going on here than meets the eye.

LJ.

GonzoTheGreat
11-24-2011, 05:15 AM
If Mesaana had shown up there in the flesh, with a real a'dam she'd taken with her, then Egwene would've been screwed.
But for me the core of the question was not how Egwene had managed it, but why Moghedien hadn't, even though she was regarded as the master of tel'aran'rhiod.She did not think of it.
Very often, obvious ideas are only obvious after someone else has pointed that out to you.

An additional issue may be that Mesaana didn't try hard enough to hold on to the a'dam. Maybe if she had, Egwene would've failed to remove it.

Figbiscuit
11-24-2011, 05:18 AM
That would be me.

I wrote up a full account of the signing and Q&A today and I'll try to get it posted on Dragonmount in the next day or so. It's quite long but I'll post it here if people are interested.

LJ.

PS: Hi fox, nice to meet ya.

Thank you. Hello :)

littleleicesterfox
11-24-2011, 10:24 AM
That would be me.

I wrote up a full account of the signing and Q&A today and I'll try to get it posted on Dragonmount in the next day or so. It's quite long but I'll post it here if people are interested.

LJ.

PS: Hi fox, nice to meet ya.

It was very nice to meet you too :)

I am very bad, I still haven't written my notes up yet as I have been just a smidge rushed with work but I will have it up with you soon :)

LordJuss
11-27-2011, 01:17 PM
Hiya,

Dragonmount have put up the signing report. It can be found here (http://www.dragonmount.com/index.php/News/tom/brandonsanderson/brandon-sanderson-book-signing-report-visit-to-r229)

Enjoy the report.

Terez, there are a few useful questions for the database in there.

LJ

Terez
11-27-2011, 04:39 PM
Thanks so much, LordJuss! I will put it in tonight.