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McCaber
04-11-2012, 02:17 AM
Seanchan -> Texas accent. Two Rivers -> Irish/English accent. Illianers -> Dutch. Aiel -> somewhat Slavic. Tairen -> Spanish. Domani -> Indian. Saldaean -> Egyptian/North African.

This is the only reference I've found, and it's really incomplete. What about Shienar, or Amadicia, Ebou Dar, Murandy, or Arafel?

There's a lot of speaking parts, and not being able to know what voice to give characters is really messing with me. Does anyone else have problems like this?

Zombie Sammael
04-11-2012, 05:15 AM
This is the only reference I've found, and it's really incomplete. What about Shienar, or Amadicia, Ebou Dar, Murandy, or Arafel?

There's a lot of speaking parts, and not being able to know what voice to give characters is really messing with me. Does anyone else have problems like this?

I normally manage to give them voices right out of my head. Illianers don't sound Dutch in my mind.

Sei'taer
04-11-2012, 07:45 AM
I normally manage to give them voices right out of my head. Illianers don't sound Dutch in my mind.

Not to me either. I always have the Two Rivers folks with a southern accent and the Seanchan with an English accent...because everybody talks about how hard they are to understand.

Zombie Sammael
04-11-2012, 08:42 AM
Not to me either. I always have the Two Rivers folks with a southern accent and the Seanchan with an English accent...because everybody talks about how hard they are to understand.

Blimey! We ain't difficult to flobberwop, mate!

Terez
04-11-2012, 08:47 AM
See the accents tag.

http://www.theoryland.com/wheel-of-time-interview-search.php

Sei'taer
04-11-2012, 09:32 AM
Blimey! We ain't difficult to flobberwop, mate!

Maybe not to flobberwop, but I can't understand half of what you say.

McCaber
04-11-2012, 11:23 AM
See the accents tag.

http://www.theoryland.com/wheel-of-time-interview-search.php

Not to be disrespectful, but that was the first thing I did. The quote in the OP is the only useful thing I found there.

Cortar
04-11-2012, 01:35 PM
This is the only reference I've found, and it's really incomplete. What about Shienar, or Amadicia, Ebou Dar, Murandy, or Arafel?

There's a lot of speaking parts, and not being able to know what voice to give characters is really messing with me. Does anyone else have problems like this?

Someone should have given this to the guy who reads the Audio books. I love their voice acting but they do the accents completely different than this.

Zombie Sammael
04-11-2012, 01:43 PM
I actually came to the realisation that I hate the pronunciation guides. Although I corrected my understanding of the pronunciation of Myrddraal (I initially assumed the double D was to be pronounced as in Welsh, so "Myrthraal"), I can never read Seanchan as anything other than "See-an-chan" rather than "Shawn-chan" as in the books. I think the same applies to accents. I think it comes from the same part of my brain that prefers the names I (and my friends) make up for monsters in video games to the official names.

Sei'taer
04-11-2012, 02:51 PM
I actually came to the realisation that I hate the pronunciation guides. Although I corrected my understanding of the pronunciation of Myrddraal (I initially assumed the double D was to be pronounced as in Welsh, so "Myrthraal"), I can never read Seanchan as anything other than "See-an-chan" rather than "Shawn-chan" as in the books. I think the same applies to accents. I think it comes from the same part of my brain that prefers the names I (and my friends) make up for monsters in video games to the official names.

I tend to pronounce the names without any kind of guide too, and as a consequence, very few of them are right. Most of them come out in my heavy southern accent and the characters all have the same accent.

I tend to read things this way: Ace Suhdie, Eggwhen, Nin-eve, Camalyn...that sort of thing. I do say Shawnchan though, and I get Mat and Rand right almost every time!

Cortar
04-11-2012, 05:14 PM
I tend to pronounce the names without any kind of guide too, and as a consequence, very few of them are right. Most of them come out in my heavy southern accent and the characters all have the same accent.

I tend to read things this way: Ace Suhdie, Eggwhen, Nin-eve, Camalyn...that sort of thing. I do say Shawnchan though, and I get Mat and Rand right almost every time!

All of those are exactly how I imagined everything. I think listening to the books really fixes the correct pronounations in your mind, though its absolutely annoying listening to the Seanchan, bc I was excited to hear that nice Southern accent.... What I got was.... weird? I really don't know what kind of accent Michael Kramer is trying to do.

Rand al'Fain
04-11-2012, 06:54 PM
I tend to pronounce the names without any kind of guide too, and as a consequence, very few of them are right. Most of them come out in my heavy southern accent and the characters all have the same accent.

I tend to read things this way: Ace Suhdie, Eggwhen, Nin-eve, Camalyn...that sort of thing. I do say Shawnchan though, and I get Mat and Rand right almost every time!

For me, aside from a few like thinking Thom's name actually had the "th" sound and the obvious Seanchan mispronunciation, I've been more or less about right on with most of the pronunciations. Don't know why, but maybe local accents have people think words sound different than what they are?

As for the Seanchan accents, I've kind of pictured them as either Italian or Turkish in accent, due to Kaf (coffee, which came to those 2 cultures well before the others).

Cortar
04-11-2012, 07:13 PM
For me, aside from a few like thinking Thom's name actually had the "th" sound and the obvious Seanchan mispronunciation, I've been more or less about right on with most of the pronunciations. Don't know why, but maybe local accents have people think words sound different than what they are?

As for the Seanchan accents, I've kind of pictured them as either Italian or Turkish in accent, due to Kaf (coffee, which came to those 2 cultures well before the others).

What about all of the "slow, drawling" speech, or how RJ says they talk like they have honey in their mouths every 5 seconds.

McCaber
04-12-2012, 12:21 AM
One thing that I have a hard time pronouncing is how Jordan uses the "ae" sound. Latin was the first non-English language I learned, I say it like the book version of Aes Sedai, but that means that for words like Caemlyn and Saldaea I don't say it as listed.

Rand al'Fain
04-12-2012, 01:10 AM
What about all of the "slow, drawling" speech, or how RJ says they talk like they have honey in their mouths every 5 seconds.

The Texans that I met though, that have the accent, have NEVER talked in a slow drawl, it was actually rather quick. So I never really made the connection before.

Maesterbaevern
04-12-2012, 02:42 AM
He maybe thought of Cletus as Seanchan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FgDw7_L82kU#t=18s). ;)

Cortar
04-12-2012, 04:01 AM
The Texans that I met though, that have the accent, have NEVER talked in a slow drawl, it was actually rather quick. So I never really made the connection before.

I think the most strongest of Texan accents are virtually nonexistent.... until I go up north.

yks 6nnetu hing
04-12-2012, 04:20 AM
Ebou Dar I'd imagine almost Italian.

dunno why but Cairhien to me seems like a mix of Turkey and Germany - Germany in the sense of utilitarian/heavy furniture and Turkey in the sense of short people with extreme propriety... until the Sultan declares a free-for-all during the Festival of Lights.

Davian93
04-12-2012, 07:34 AM
Funny, I picture them as Louis XIV era French...

yks 6nnetu hing
04-12-2012, 07:41 AM
Funny, I picture them as Louis XIV era French...

there's nothing prudish about that era or area. rather the opposite...

But I guess it makes sense seeing as Andor ~ England -> Cairhien ~ France.

Davian93
04-12-2012, 07:45 AM
there's nothing prudish about that era or area. rather the opposite...

But I guess it makes sense seeing as Andor ~ England -> Cairhien ~ France.

It has more to do with the "Sun Throne", Sun King, lazy nobility that throws a bunch of parties and manuevers for power when there really isnt any, etc etc...and the Andor=England parallel.

yks 6nnetu hing
04-12-2012, 08:09 AM
It has more to do with the "Sun Throne", Sun King, lazy nobility that throws a bunch of parties and manuevers for power when there really isnt any, etc etc...and the Andor=England parallel.

yeah, I know. It's just that there's nothing somber or dark about France. It's all unabashed flowery heavily gilted sensuality. Even the maneuvering was rarely as deadly/brutal as described in Cairhien...

maacaroni
04-12-2012, 08:34 AM
So, Rand has an Irish accent.

"Sure, I'll be heading down Tear way to be getting that wee sword to save the childer. Och, I am the dragon reborn after all".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-English

Lupusdeusest
04-12-2012, 10:26 AM
If it's El-ay-da, is it Gay-din?
(Ok, a little serious...)

neurotopia
04-12-2012, 02:03 PM
I always thought it was e-LIE-ih-da and guy-ih-DEEN

Rand al'Fain
04-12-2012, 02:54 PM
Here I thought it was:
Ee-lay-da
Guy-den

And for Cairhein, I always imagined them somewhat like the Romans. Deadly politics, short in stature, but with a touch of Samurai (shaved heads on the soldiers).

Ser Pilsner
04-12-2012, 08:25 PM
The audiobooks will help with pronunciation and accents. Although I was stubborn, I now pronounce Nynaeve 'Nye-neeve' and Birgitte 'Bir-GEET-ah' :)

Seanchan do not sound like Texans in the audiobooks. They sound like people talking with their teeth closed. The Trakands sound like the highest class British. A few nationalities sound rough Irish or Scottish. Illianers really don't have a different accent from that, but they do be talkin with a bit different wording (as written).

McCaber
04-13-2012, 12:23 AM
Yeah, I always thought Illianers just sounded like the modern interpretation of 16th century pirates.

"Trust me, I'm Captain Bayle Domon!"

Karak Norn Clansman
04-13-2012, 05:53 PM
Texan-speaking Seanchan? Well, I'd never have thought that. :D

I use to think of Arad Doman as having a French accent and Illian = Italian.