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ledopmi
09-11-2012, 08:10 AM
I pictured the houses in Emond's Field to look like typical medieval timber frame homes with wattle daub walls. The al'Thor house is described as having wooden walls with most of the white wash gone. Is it possible that the the house is a timber frame house with wood siding or slats instead of wattle and daub?

Also, I'm trying to figure out the layout of the house. I know it is rectangular with a large room in front with a fireplace and table and there is at least one room in back that I believe is used for bathing, with two bedrooms and storage above. Would there be any more rooms? Is the front of the house on the narrow wall or the long wall?

Since there is no running water they must have an outhouse so there would be no room for that in the house.

Davian93
09-11-2012, 09:27 AM
I always pictured something like these...

http://0.tqn.com/d/gonewengland/1/0/D/D/plimoth3.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EpbHbuFyYFw/UDR2LWMTBSI/AAAAAAAAAFc/YUHQMKGVxKI/s1600/Typical_Medieval_Farm_House.jpg

On a slightly larger scale.

Weird Harold
09-11-2012, 03:55 PM
I pictured the houses in Emond's Field to look like typical medieval timber frame homes with wattle daub walls. The al'Thor house is described as having wooden walls with most of the white wash gone. Is it possible that the the house is a timber frame house with wood siding or slats instead of wattle and daub?

RJ wouldn't have been familiar with wattle and daub construction; he would have known what it was in a general sense, but it wouldn't have been the image that came to mind for a remote, rustic, hardscrabble farmhouse.

this Appalachian farmhouse is probably closer to what RJ would have pictured:

http://digitalheritage.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mountain-farmhouse-in-Appalachian-Mountains..jpg

The village of Emmond's Field probably has this type of construction (a la Colonial Williamsburg)

http://www.williamsburgvirginiaguide.com/colonialwilliamsburg/pics/colonial-williamsburg_8599_r2.jpg

ledopmi
09-11-2012, 04:11 PM
I assumed wattle and daub because all the houses except the Inn have thatch roofs. Since the roofs are primitive, I would expect the walls to be also.

Mam A'Lemur
09-11-2012, 05:16 PM
I wouldn't say thatch is necessarily primitive, since it's still in use today. Existing houses are re-thatched, and I believe some new constructions are being built with a thatch option.

Speaking of primitive, I used to live in an old adobe house built in the 1880s... super old for my neck of the woods, and it was some of the best insulation you could ask for. Cost virtually nothing to heat and cool. I miss that, especially whenever I open my electric bill in the summertime.

Davian93
09-11-2012, 05:38 PM
Though the Inn has a tile roof as to some of the new construction...so there's that.

I disagree on it looking like colonial farmhouses...if only because Andor is based on England and RJ was enough of a historian to know what those look like.

thatched roof with whitewashed walls:

http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/servlet/file/store5/item314697/version4/fileservice38/314697_38_preview.jpg

Weird Harold
09-12-2012, 01:38 AM
if only because Andor is based on England and RJ was enough of a historian to know what those look like.

Ah, but the Two Rivers are based on Wales, not England. :D

A painting of a Welsh farmhouse of an appropriate era:

http://www.chrischalkart.com/landscape_painting_welsh_farm_ty%27n_cornel_youth_ hostel.jpg

or

Hendre'r-ywydd Uchaf Farmhouse (http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/en/stfagans/buildings/hendrerywydd/)

A late-medieval cruck-framed hall-house built in 1508 and typical of the better class of Welsh farmhouse in the late Middle Ages.

http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/media/11280/WNS_NHM_Site_Pics_41.jpg

(The latter is internally much more primitive than the Al'Thor cabin is described. ie no chimney, for one point)

PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Fagans_National_History_Museum for more historic Welsh buildings.

ledopmi
09-12-2012, 05:11 AM
He does say they are stout frame houses which sounds to me like they would have large visible timbers like this one from the link you provided of the welsh houses. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Abernodwydd_Farmhouse%2C_St_Fagans_Museum_of_Welsh _Life.jpg

Davian93
09-12-2012, 06:51 AM
Ah, but the Two Rivers are based on Wales, not England. :D

A painting of a Welsh farmhouse of an appropriate era:

http://www.chrischalkart.com/landscape_painting_welsh_farm_ty%27n_cornel_youth_ hostel.jpg

or



(The latter is internally much more primitive than the Al'Thor cabin is described. ie no chimney, for one point)

PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Fagans_National_History_Museum for more historic Welsh buildings.


I thought the TR accent was more Irish than Welsh per RJ...not that it matters on the house style as the stout timber w. whitewash and a chimney fits it more.

GonzoTheGreat
09-12-2012, 07:15 AM
Mat's spelling does seem a bit Welsh too. :p

Tsofu
09-12-2012, 11:32 AM
Mat's spelling does seem a bit Welsh too. :p
Nice one, Gonzo! At least the way BS portrays his skills. I gotta remember not to be drinking my morning tea when I'm reading you all's posts. Nearly did a spit take on the laptop when I read this one!

Tsofu