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09-18-2012, 07:51 PM
Hello all,

I'd like to introduce myself to the community.

I've been reading the Wheel of Time since 1992; I was going to be spending Christmas alone in another city that year, so I was looking for something to read. A friend recommended The Eye of the World, so I bought it and the Great Hunt. When I got home, I started reading - and read through the night. The next day, I was able to tear myself away from reading for just long enough to go buy The Dragon Reborn and The Shadow Rising.

I've been waiting patiently for the next book ever since, and I'm coming up on 20 years of waiting. A few times, I've been patient enough to wait a few days after publication to start reading the latest book.

I was on the fence about whether I would purchase and read the prologue in advance or not, but after yesterday's drama, I realized that yes, of course I will.


Over the years, I've been frustrated at Perrin's absence from an entire book, and then at Mat's. And I’ll admit that upon first read, I didn't always follow who was really in what faction among the Aes Sedai.

I shared the community's sadness at Robert Jordan's passing, and there was no one I could really talk to about that. I had mixed feelings and good wishes, when Brandon Sanderson was tasked with completing the series.

And regarding the last few books: I was mostly happy with the narrative flow, but I stumbled over a few things: particularly Mat's characterization in The Gathering Storm. The man who was planning to enter Trustair felt like a mockery, compared to the man who commanded the Band at the end of Knife of Dreams. Similarly, I felt like many of the Aes Sedai, Windfinders, Kin, etc were written as substantially dumber and blinder than they used to be, especially when their positions didn't agree with those of the main characters.

However, except for some clumsiness of characterization in the last few books, I don't really dislike any characters. So in general, I'm always a bit surprised by the specific dislike people online seem to have for characters that I’ve always liked just fine, such as Faile and Perrin, Egwene and Elayne, Cadsuane and the Aes Sedai in general.


I've never really been a part of the fandom, although I've been an intermittent lurker since the early nineties, using dial-up to read people's comments on rec.arts.sf.etc, and once logging into some WOTMUD that included distractingly inappropriate lizard-men.

After Brandon was named to finish the books, I started my umpteenth and numpteenth re-reads, and have lurked on Theoryland and the 13th Depository a lot, particularly the last six or eight months.

I'm also Canadian, but was a bit too busy yesterday to try to be the third official purchaser of the prologue. By the time I checked in the evening, the loophole was long since gone.

Anyway. Howdy.


09-19-2012, 02:21 AM
Hi! welcome! someone will be along shortly to give you a more appropriate retina burning welcome!

09-19-2012, 02:59 AM
Welcome to TL, G2D! :)

09-19-2012, 07:25 PM
Thanks, folks.


09-19-2012, 08:32 PM
Welcome to this little corner of WoT. You picked an auspicious time to enter and clearly this ain't your first rodeo, so dive in here and opine on sumpin!


09-20-2012, 08:42 AM
Welcome to TL G2D :)

There was drama yesterday?? I am strongly avoiding all things aMoL related, but I WANT TO KNOW!! As long as it doesn't involve spoilers.

09-20-2012, 03:10 PM
Welcome to TL G2D :)

There was drama yesterday?? I am strongly avoiding all things aMoL related, but I WANT TO KNOW!! As long as it doesn't involve spoilers.

nothing I am aware of...

I take that back, I guess Terez was calling a troll a troll, and the troll tried to argue back... not really drama, more like every day workings imo... no spoilers :P

09-21-2012, 07:17 AM
Welcome !

<- drama ->

<- beer

Zaela Sedai
10-03-2012, 10:35 AM
Consider yourself officially welcomed to Theoryland G2D!!! (Don't worry - I don't get the dislike for those characters either, and I've been here forever and a day ;)..)As I'm sure you've noticed, we have a pretty decent community of WoT fanatics over here. One of the ways that we keep it all friendly is a short list of courtesies we ask people to follow and, once in a while, actually do get followed. Imagine that! Insane people following some sort of order!

1) Don't flood the board with multiple THREADS all at once.
Allow us the time to absorb, evaluate, and discuss, OR LAUGH at one or two ideas, OR JOKES at a time. Some of us like to do a little research before responding and that can take a little time. Of course, we also have those others who are just a bit slow. Read that as "just can't handle more than one thought in their heads at once" or "dial-up modem". Your choice. I'd suggest "have a real life", but not likely. Does anyone still have dial up? Wow...it's getting hard to give the slow people an excuse

Addendum to 1) Try to stay on topic.
Going off on tangents can be super fun and is something we are all guilty of your's truly included but try and keep threads on topic unless, 1) the thread is dead or 2) the thread naturally moves over to another topic. This rule is much more lax for joke threads, pop culture threads...etc.

2) Try to back up your opinions & theories.
You'll get a lot more respect if you can. Quotes from the books (of which you CANNOT read too much) are your best weapon. Quotes from interviews are semi-acceptable. Gut feelings are pseudo-acceptable. Whitecloak blind-faith is best submitted while wearing asbestos panties.

3) Feel free to get as emotionally involved as you'd like.
Discussions can get very heated. But try not to take things personally. Remember: we only insult the ones we love. Or the ones we eventually hand over to the Trollocs.

4) Be respectful.
A lot of people have been around Theoryland for a long time. Being a Youngling means you're new around here. We do understand that you may have been reading WoT forever, but if you're gonna pick a fight regarding a WoT theory with someone who's an Elder, Ancient or Hero, understand that they've been around for a while now, and probably have posting friends. And Tamyrlin is Lord of the Board for a reason: this whole place is his brainchild. Keep that in mind. They also have posting enemies.... a good little bit of information to tuck away.

Addendum to 4: This is an international community.
In regards to the Non-WoT discussion groups, please respect the opinions of people from nations and cultures other than your own, even if you disagree with them or the policies of their leaders and politicians. Try to remember that not everyone here has the same outlook or life experience that you might. If you want to send a letter or e-mail to anyone in particular to indicate any specific moral, educational, intellectual, or genetic deficiencies they may have, feel free. Just please don't do it here.

Addendum 1 to Addendum 4: Please no angry profanity.
If you really need to tell someone off, be creative. And replacing characters with @$$ does NOT constitute creativity. I like tend to like the Shakespearean approach myself. The smarter and more subtle you are with it, just makes the person look that much more an idiot.

Addendum 2 to Addendum 4: Please be nice to Newbies.
We were all new at one time you are one right now and there is no need to come down on anyone for asking questions that to the elder community may be basic knowledge. This is for you to remember after you've been here awhile.

Addendum 3 to Addendum 4: Please TRY not to feed the Trolls.
Trust me, it ain't easy at times, but ignore the obvious instigators. Just sit yourself down between the Heroes and Ancients sharpening the WTF Couch sticks. There are many on the board who know how to deal with this breed, leave them to it. It can be quite entertaining. If things get too offensive to the population in general, Mods will intervene. We like to try and use enough wit to neutralize the trollies without help...

5) Please don't use the New Users Forum to recruit.
We have plenty of room in the other forums for begging for support for factions, theories, and the TCA. Please let the newbies look around for a while before taking sides in any pseudo-battles. ~do not feel you MUST click on Lordy's sig links and join just cause he's Lordy... it's not mandatory, butt shhhh! I did not tell you that!

6) Most important: Have Fun!
We do this because we love it and like to think that we are, at least, reasonably intelligent. Hell, some of us have deluded ourselves into believing that we've evolved into supremely intelligent beings! Half the posters here believe that divine supremacy has already come to them! My vote is for Frenzy, and myself, of course. You know the Truth when you see it. Don't let T and her massive bag o' quotes fool you there are always ways to fight back! With your on bag o'quotes of course!

We will assume some intelligence on your part. You found us, didn't you? Until you prove otherwise…and there are many who have, you'll be safe. If you get hurt if you do prove otherwise, I will offer my one free Healing…but just that once. After that you get to meet a special pair of chains, Mwahahahaa

Remember, you EARN your respect here, it's not given out freely and some may never know the pleasure.

Welcome to our little rounded corner! It’s a great time!

Zaela Sedai, Official Theoryland Greeter, Mistress of Novices