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kvothe
01-01-2013, 04:51 AM
Hello together,

First of all: Happy new year! :)

(Sorry for my 'bad' english, I'm trying to give my best)
Well then, I've got a question on the book-series.

I just started reading the first book some weeks ago, and it was quite a good read. At the end it was somewhat.. I don't know how to describe it. It didn't suite me very well.

Now I'm reading the second one, but I don't really get into it. The first book I would rate about 4/5 stars, the second one.. well, I wonder if it gets better (I'm about the first half of it) and even if the series gets better.

My contra-points are, that I don't really like the way the characters are build up. Everyone has very strange characteristics.. And some of them a very strange way of thinking. (For example Nynaeve, her relation to Lan, ...)

I even did not like the story itself very much, regarding the second book. Especially the Aes Sedai scenes during the first 100-200 pages..

Well, I really was looking forward to reading this series, as it should be a great story.

But after having read so much fantasy books.. even "great" ones, and "famous" ones. such as Martin, Sanderson, Hobb, ...

I was even looking forward to reading the last books of this series because of Sanderson B., one of my favourite authors.


So, is it worth reading on this series, will it get a bit better for my points?

instantdeath999
01-01-2013, 07:48 PM
I actually don't feel the first book is one of the stronger volumes of the series. It's certainly one of the most beloved, but I'm with you in that it didn't do much for me by itself. That said, once the series opened up a bit, I grew to love it. The Eye of the World, by itself, is way too reminiscent of Tolkien, but it quickly outgrows that; it uses that familiar backdrop to launch it's own very engaging story. Compared to many other fantasy authors, I also felt that Jordan's dialogue was very dry. That's another thing that steadily improves, as the characters see more of the world.

It does slow down later, true, and it does develop some structure problems, but I found I enjoyed every volume in the series to some degree (even Crossroads of Twilight had a few very well written scenes).

The Great Hunt is a bit slower to develop than the first one, but I feel it has a stronger climax than the first. Overall, it's my favorite of the first three. There are some weird elements- I completely agree that Nynaeve's relation to Lan is very sudden- but most of those elements improve.

My advice is to read the first three. They actually function fairly well as a standalone trilogy. If you're not interested in seeing where things go from there, it's safe to say you probably won't enjoy the rest. If you're not sure from there, go ahead and give the fourth a try, because like a said, it's in my personal opinion the best of the series. If you're still not on board by then, I'd drop it.

Ishara
01-01-2013, 10:01 PM
Well, I don't think you'll find anyone who won't agree that it's dense. It is - very. But, Jordan's use of characters is what separates him from many other writers in the genre. His characters are not one dimensional, nor are his plots.

I would strongly agree with the recommendation to read the first three before making any decisions, and be forewarned that the middle of the series lags a bit when compared to other books in the series, but there is payoff, and it's great.

Hopefully you stick with it, and enjoy it as much as we all do!

Birgitte
01-02-2013, 03:26 PM
Well, it really depends on how patient you are. Judging by your screen name, you're a Patrick Rothfuss fan, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're pretty patient when it comes to a good story. There are some really slow parts to the series, but overall, it is definitely worth it. If you read the third or fourth and aren't impressed, then it probably isn't for you. To each his own, you know?

The internal logic of some characters will remain very questionable at best for most of the series, however. If it's a deal breaker for you, all I can promise is that it will get better by the time Sanderson starts wrapping the series up.

Davian93
01-02-2013, 05:10 PM
I personally despise Wheel of Time...I dont get how anyone could like it. Especially when you compare it to the works of the great Terry Goodkind. Now there is an amazing author.


Seriously though, it picks up a bit as TGH keeps going. Stick with it.

Casabamelon
01-03-2013, 09:02 AM
I personally despise Wheel of Time...I dont get how anyone could like it. Especially when you compare it to the works of the great Terry Goodkind. Now there is an amazing author.


Apples and oranges, man. WoT is a fantasy series, and Terry Goodkind does not write fantasy.

Davian93
01-03-2013, 09:12 AM
Apples and oranges, man. WoT is a fantasy series, and Terry Goodkind does not write fantasy.

What Goodkind writes transcends the inferior genre that is fantasy...as he is wont to tell you if given the opportunity.

instantdeath999
01-03-2013, 11:36 AM
You guys just aren't old enough to be reading Terry Goodkind

:D

Frenzy
01-03-2013, 12:20 PM
Read until the 4th book. The Shadow Rising is very good, and many people's favorite in the series (myself included). The other series favorite is Lord of Chaos, the 6th book. It's definitely worth sticking with.

And welcome!

Hugin "Poppa" Cauthon
01-03-2013, 06:18 PM
The other series favorite is Lord of Chaos, the 6th book.

I just finished LoC 2 days ago on my 1st re-read of the series. And, yes, Frenzy, by the end of it I was seriously starting to think that it's my favorite book in the series.

Absolutely fantastic character growth and some of the more fun interactions between main characters, in my opinion.

And, kvothe, as someone who purposefully avoided the series for years, and found EotW really slow and boring at first, I highly recommend sticking it out. There are some slow moments later on but, at least for me, once it dawned on me that I loved reading about nearly every character (even the ones I despise or always expect to be boring when their POV starts), I knew it was worth it. And that realization came late, but when it did, I knew it had been the case the whole time, I just hadn't realized it yet - like a dead... well, I don't know how much you know so far, so I'll shut up there.

AND, all of the books are absolutely amazing on your 2nd read - there are so many subtleties in the earlier books that you could only catch after you've read the later books. So, you gotta at least stick with it through all of them twice. How about that?

Daekyras
01-18-2013, 07:15 AM
Now I'm reading the second one, but I don't really get into it. The first book I would rate about 4/5 stars, the second one.. well, I wonder if it gets better (I'm about the first half of it) and even if the series gets better.



I even did not like the story itself very much, regarding the second book. Especially the Aes Sedai scenes during the first 100-200 pages..




Em....The Great Hunt is quite possibly in the top ten of all fantasy novels ever written.

That statement i just made is not a joke. It is close to being a flawless book as any that have been written.

In the series only tFoH tops it for sheer quality so if you can't get into this my friend then i would say- Yes, stop reading.

Davian93
01-18-2013, 08:19 AM
I just finished LoC 2 days ago on my 1st re-read of the series. And, yes, Frenzy, by the end of it I was seriously starting to think that it's my favorite book in the series.

Absolutely fantastic character growth and some of the more fun interactions between main characters, in my opinion.

And, kvothe, as someone who purposefully avoided the series for years, and found EotW really slow and boring at first, I highly recommend sticking it out. There are some slow moments later on but, at least for me, once it dawned on me that I loved reading about nearly every character (even the ones I despise or always expect to be boring when their POV starts), I knew it was worth it. And that realization came late, but when it did, I knew it had been the case the whole time, I just hadn't realized it yet - like a dead... well, I don't know how much you know so far, so I'll shut up there.

AND, all of the books are absolutely amazing on your 2nd read - there are so many subtleties in the earlier books that you could only catch after you've read the later books. So, you gotta at least stick with it through all of them twice. How about that?

Its fun to reread in that there are always new little facets that you'll catch that you totally missed the first few times around...or few dozen times aroun.