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Davian93
08-27-2015, 04:03 PM
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/27/planned-parenthood-alleges-smear.html

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/27/435182807/planned-parenthood-fights-back

What a shock...what an utter shock that they were massively edited including the allegedly "whole videos"

Its ACORN all over again.

Durvasha
08-27-2015, 09:45 PM
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/27/planned-parenthood-alleges-smear.html

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/27/435182807/planned-parenthood-fights-back

What a shock...what an utter shock that they were massively edited including the allegedly "whole videos"

Its ACORN all over again.

As someone who lived under rock at various times due to various reasons, what is/was ACORN?

Kimon
08-27-2015, 10:22 PM
As someone who lived under rock at various times due to various reasons, what is/was ACORN?

ACORN stands for Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. They focused on voter registration and access to affordable housing and healthcare for the poor, but were destroyed due to a hoax involving a video sting operation. It's not quite as simple as the Planned Parenthood sting however. That one is clearly nonsense. The ACORN sting just made everyone involved look sketchy.

Anyway, here is the NYT's analysis of it...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/opinion/21pubed.html

Southpaw2012
09-16-2015, 09:05 PM
It doesn't matter which side you're on politically, but if you can watch those undercover videos and not be against what Planned Parenthood is doing, you are sick. What they are doing is murdering babies and selling their body parts. Planned Parenthood MUST be defunded. This nonsense about it being for women's health is complete bullshit. We are stuck with Obamacare, and that is heavily focused on women's health issues. Legitimate women's health issues, not murder.

Nazbaque
09-16-2015, 09:18 PM
Why do you care southpaw? They're not your babies are they?

Lupusdeusest
09-16-2015, 10:30 PM
If you can watch the videos and not feel upset about the non existent sale of fetal parts, chances are you are actually capable of differentiating between heavily edited fiction and unedited reality.

Ivhon
09-16-2015, 11:52 PM
If you can watch a movie and not be revolted by the wholesale slaughter of innocent people and animals you should be totally offended. Hollywood MUST be shut down.

Nazbaque
09-16-2015, 11:55 PM
If you can watch a movie and not be revolted by the wholesale slaughter of innocent people and animals you should be totally offended. Hollywood MUST be shut down.
Come again? Offended for not seeing a revolting movie?

Frenzy
09-17-2015, 12:01 AM
Seems vaguely relevant... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk)

Nazbaque
09-17-2015, 12:35 AM
Seems vaguely relevant... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk)

OMG How can southpaw live with himself? Everytime he masturbates millions of sperm cells die for his pleasure. Unless of course he never masturbates, in which case how can he live with himself? ... Is that why he keeps posting here?

GonzoTheGreat
09-17-2015, 05:04 AM
It doesn't matter which side you're on politically, but if you watch those edited videos and not be against what the conservatives are doing, you are sick. What they are doing is murdering women and claiming to be holy. Conservatism MUST be abolished. This nonsense about it being for women's health is complete bullshit.
For once, I agree with you.
But for some inexplicable reason, your own (unedited) post is a lot less worthy. Can you tell me why you didn't write this yourself?

I mean, you do agree that editing does not make any difference at all, I hope. If not, then you would not trust those videos to tell anything like the truth, and thus would not use them to form an opinion on anyone or anything apart from the liars who cooked them up and spread them.

connabard
09-17-2015, 09:42 AM
It doesn't matter which side you're on politically, but if you can watch those undercover videos and not be against what Planned Parenthood is doing, you are sick. What they are doing is murdering babies and selling their body parts. Planned Parenthood MUST be defunded. This nonsense about it being for women's health is complete bullshit. We are stuck with Obamacare, and that is heavily focused on women's health issues. Legitimate women's health issues, not murder.

You're right, PP doesn't contribute towards birth control or knowledge about STI's, or numerous other benefits.
PP is a giant abortion facility, and they should be advertised as such. "Want a quick, and easy abortion? Go to your nearest Planned Parenthood and with just ONE easy payment of 19.99, you can get rid of the "sentient" fetus in your body!"

ShadowbaneX
09-17-2015, 12:03 PM
You're right, PP doesn't contribute towards birth control or knowledge about STI's, or numerous other benefits.
PP is a giant abortion facility, and they should be advertised as such. "Want a quick, and easy abortion? Go to your nearest Planned Parenthood and with just ONE easy payment of 19.99, you can get rid of the "sentient" fetus in your body!"

Isn't that the American way though? Mass marketing and the like? They good hard working Capitalist Americans. Shouldn't they be lauded for that?

I'm mean she it's a little sketchy, but the robber barons of the wild west were too. Same with all those guys dumping toxic waste and destroying nature preserves and animal habitats. Or the oil spills. Those are good, honest, hard working, God fearing Americans trying to make an honest buck. Is PP really that much worse?

Nazbaque
09-17-2015, 12:24 PM
Isn't that the American way though? Mass marketing and the like? They good hard working Capitalist Americans. Shouldn't they be lauded for that?

I'm mean she it's a little sketchy, but the robber barons of the wild west were too. Same with all those guys dumping toxic waste and destroying nature preserves and animal habitats. Or the oil spills. Those are good, honest, hard working, God fearing Americans trying to make an honest buck. Is PP really that much worse?

Well all those rapists' babies are being killed. It's bad from the rapist's point of view. So why would all those men complain about it? Makes you think, eh?

ShadowbaneX
09-17-2015, 07:42 PM
Well all those rapists' babies are being killed. It's bad from the rapist's point of view. So why would all those men complain about it? Makes you think, eh?

Perhaps they're all upset at being denied the chance to pay Child Support?

Davian93
09-17-2015, 08:45 PM
You're right, PP doesn't contribute towards birth control or knowledge about STI's, or numerous other benefits.
PP is a giant abortion facility, and they should be advertised as such. "Want a quick, and easy abortion? Go to your nearest Planned Parenthood and with just ONE easy payment of 19.99, you can get rid of the "sentient" fetus in your body!"

I've found proof!!!!

http://i.onionstatic.com/onion/1529/8/original/1200.jpg

DahLliA
09-21-2015, 07:57 AM
Also vaguely relevant (http://explosm.net/comics/4062/)

Southpaw2012
09-29-2015, 09:54 PM
http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/9764

Kimon
09-29-2015, 11:10 PM
http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/9764

If this update was newsworthy, you would have been able to link to a more reputable source than a site, which frankly just looks like a blog, called Alliance Defending Freedom. Nor does its subheader - For Faith. For Justice - lend any more a sense of credibility than its claim that this certainty is derived from an investigation by something called Coalfire Systems, who apparently we should blindly trust, even though no proof is provided for why, simpy because they apparently have worked for unnamed Fortune 500 companies in the past.

At least wait to post this if and when it actually is coming from a real news site.

GonzoTheGreat
09-30-2015, 03:49 AM
Wikipedia doesn't have a lemma for Coalfire Systems, but it does mention the company in a number of other cases. Superficial scrutiny of them suggests to me that CS produces the results their employer wants to get, which isn't really a recommendation that inspires trust.

Davian93
09-30-2015, 08:51 AM
http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/9764

Your Blog Sucks

Ozymandias
09-30-2015, 06:24 PM
Wikipedia doesn't have a lemma for Coalfire Systems, but it does mention the company in a number of other cases. Superficial scrutiny of them suggests to me that CS produces the results their employer wants to get, which isn't really a recommendation that inspires trust.

I actually took the time to research them, and read the file.

First off, Coalfire might actually be a legitimate company. They seem to have the credentials for it, at least.

Second, and maybe this is me not having the techno-jargon to read the report well, CS never actually states that the audio and video are of the same provenance. All it says is that they are reasonably certain that the video is unedited, and that the audio is unedited. Whether the video and the audio are from the same recording is not mentioned. Specifically this language:

This resulted in audio recordings from the point of view of both Investigator 1 and Investigator 2 that are separate from the audio captured by the video recording device.

Now, that seems to me like a very thinly veiled attempt on the part of Coalfire Systems, Inc to provide the client what they asked for (confirmation that both the video and audio were not tampered with) without actually addressing the important issue (whether or not the audio and the video are recording the same events).

Which is, of course, both the issue with taking information out of context (e.g. thinking that a report that confirms the authenticity of the video actually confirms the interpretation of said video) and the issue with auditors in general; as long as an accountant/auditor is careful with phrasing, he/she can attest to almost anything under the sun without being liable for when those statements are used to misrepresent an obvious falsehood.