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Rand al'Fain
11-19-2015, 03:21 PM
http://gawker.com/donald-trump-plans-to-do-frankly-unthinkable-things-i-1743547196

Sound familiar? A certain little mustached Austrian did something similar about 80 years ago to another group.

Daekyras
11-19-2015, 05:01 PM
Ha, as if anything other then thinking "I would be voting for Donald trump" is needed to make you not vote that way?

Rand al'Fain
11-19-2015, 05:28 PM
Ha, as if anything other then thinking "I would be voting for Donald trump" is needed to make you not vote that way?

He, sadly, has a pretty good sized following.

Davian93
11-19-2015, 08:08 PM
He, sadly, has a pretty good sized following.

He's actually surging in the polls again...thanks to this latest push. All the Carson people are jumping back to him now that Carson has shown himself to be utterly stupid and Trump hates the right people.

Southpaw2012
11-24-2015, 12:06 AM
Trump is a moron, but Carson is not. No one has proven what he's said to be lies or wrong. He certainly isn't my choice, but the attacks on him by the media have failed as well. They tried to get him on his comment about Jefferson and the Constitution, but he wasn't wrong there either. No, Jefferson wasn't at the federal convention of 1787, but he communicated a lot with Madison and Washington at the time, and was a key advocate in what became the Bill of Rights, so Carson was right there as well. I'm not sure why people are going after Carson so much when Sanders makes the dumbest statement in recent memory (that global warming causes terrorism) and Trump says whatever comes to his mind, which is usually beyond left field. Honestly, a book should be written on the Trump campaign. It's fascinating.

Southpaw2012
11-24-2015, 12:07 AM
He, sadly, has a pretty good sized following.

His strong support is a wake up call to DC that America is fed up with big government BS

GonzoTheGreat
11-24-2015, 03:20 AM
Trump is a moron, but Carson is not. No one has proven what he's said to be lies or wrong.
How much grain, precisely, could be stored in the Egyptian pyramids?
How long did it take to build them?
How much grain could have been (better) stored in traditional silos that the Egyptians already knew very well how to build, and what would have been the relative efficiency of those two options (pyramids versus silos)?

Saying that Carson was not wrong on the pyramids is simply disingenuous at best, and a lie more likely. Unless, of course, you can actually defend his idea. Are you willing to try that?

Terez
11-24-2015, 05:26 AM
I'm not sure why people are going after Carson so much when Sanders makes the dumbest statement in recent memory (that global warming causes terrorism)...
I'm too lazy to look up this up at the moment, but I suspect that whatever Bernie said was related to the DoD report on security concerns related to global warming that came out a while back.

Daekyras
11-24-2015, 05:41 AM
I'm too lazy to look up this up at the moment, but I suspect that whatever Bernie said was related to the DoD report on security concerns related to global warming that came out a while back.

Well, because of the increased temperatures those Cold Blooded Terrorists are coming out of their caves more often to bask in the heat...

Kimon
11-24-2015, 06:51 AM
I'm too lazy to look up this up at the moment, but I suspect that whatever Bernie said was related to the DoD report on security concerns related to global warming that came out a while back.

Here's what Bernie said:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/sanders-on-climate-link-to-terrorism/

“Absolutely,” Sanders said. “In fact, climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism. And if we do not get our act together and listen to what the scientists say you’re gonna see countries all over the world– this is what the C.I.A. says, they’re gonna be struggling over limited amounts of water, limited amounts of land to grow their crops. And you’re gonna see all kinds of international conflict.”

He shouldn't have tried to link what was happening in Syria so closely to climate change, but his general stance isn't so controversial. For instance...

Some on the right scoffed at Sanders’ statements. On “Face the Nation” following Sanders’ appearance, the Wall Street Journal’s Peggy Noonan said Sanders’ comments made him “look slightly daffy, like someone who doesn’t understand what the real subject is.”
But Sanders’ summary of the position of the CIA and Department of Defense was accurate. They have been warning for years that extreme weather caused by climate change is likely to worsen instability around the world and cause security problems.
As we wrote in January, the Department of Defense referred to climate change as a ” ‘threat multiplier’ — because it has the potential to exacerbate many of the challenges we are dealing with today – from infectious disease to terrorism. We are already beginning to see some of these impacts.” Those threats are outlined in a report titled “2014 Climate Change Adaptation Roadmap.”
Department of Defense, Adaptation Roadmap, 2014: The impacts of climate change may cause instability in other countries by impairing access to food and water, damaging infrastructure, spreading disease, uprooting and displacing large numbers of people, compelling mass migration, interrupting commercial activity, or restricting electricity availability. These developments could undermine already-fragile governments that are unable to respond effectively or challenge currently‐stable governments, as well as increasing competition and tension between countries vying for limited resources. These gaps in governance can create an avenue for extremist ideologies and condition that foster terrorism.

This is far less ridiculous than a host of silly statements that Carson has made.

Davian93
11-24-2015, 07:10 AM
Trump is a moron, but Carson is not. No one has proven what he's said to be lies or wrong. He certainly isn't my choice, but the attacks on him by the media have failed as well. They tried to get him on his comment about Jefferson and the Constitution, but he wasn't wrong there either. No, Jefferson wasn't at the federal convention of 1787, but he communicated a lot with Madison and Washington at the time, and was a key advocate in what became the Bill of Rights, so Carson was right there as well. I'm not sure why people are going after Carson so much when Sanders makes the dumbest statement in recent memory (that global warming causes terrorism) and Trump says whatever comes to his mind, which is usually beyond left field. Honestly, a book should be written on the Trump campaign. It's fascinating.

They're both utter morons. Carson is just as much a jackass as Trump just in different ways.


Funny story on your criticism of Sanders...the Pentagon and DoD along with a ton of other experts agree and say the same thing about climate change and terrorism/social unrest. But you already knew that.