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Jalyn 06-06-2017 11:04 PM

American Gods - on Starz
 
It's been years since I read this story, and I really tried to give the show a chance.

I sat through the Anansi coming to America story and told myself that they understood that slaves sacrificing themselves to Anansi rather than overtaking the ship and trying to make their way home was a god taking advantage of their naivety rather then a reasonable sacrifice to a beneficial god.

I don't care about changes to the narrative - hell, it's been long enough since a read the book that I don't recognize changes to the story.

I certainly had no problem with djinn/cabbie sex scene. (I mention it because I hear that it was an issue.)

And then I watched the last episode... Which started with apparently modern Mexicans being gunned down as they crossed the Rio Grande in sacrifice to "Mexican Jesus." Er? No one is going to be summarily shot as they try to cross into the country. Does anyone seriously believe this? And think that any person that arbitrarily gunned down people (including children) coming across the river would not be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Right. "Liberal Wet Dream #1"

I groused, calmed down and continued to watch - and then we got to Vulcan. (Liberal Wet Dream #2) Who apparently had managed to cultivate a Nazi town in middle America. And I winced. And then I watched this "gun toting" apparently gun savvy people fire all of their guns in the air, in a completely NRA unapproved maneuver, not caring where the bullets might land. Oh, and, of course, they were painted to be complete white supremacists in a way where no town in the US would possibly exist.

And. Here's how fucking inured to Hollywood's liberal bias I am - had these happened in separate episodes, I'd have rolled my eyes (and called my Dad to say "seriously, people think that there is a possibility of illegal immigrants being indiscriminately shot down on the Rio Grande!") and let it go because "gods" make everything bigger. The gun control bullshit would have probably not even have crossed my radar because it is so damn common. The only reason that I noticed enough to even comment on it is that they were audacious enough to put in them in the same episode.

Again, I don't remember Gaiman's American Gods well enough to throw "they are fucking up the adaptation" stones - but I don't remember ever feeling like the author hated a subset of the American people - and that's what this episode said to me.

I remember American Gods as a celebration of the diversity of this country - in both worship and basic beliefs - i find it sad that the adaptation couldn't find the heart to follow that lead.

Jalyn 06-06-2017 11:12 PM

Also. Damnit. I've been looking for a non-political post that I could reply to for DAYS because this wasn't how I wanted to come back...

GonzoTheGreat 06-07-2017 02:50 AM

Ah, just to cheer you up: try to imagine what Trump would have tweeted about any of the issues you mentioned. :D
Spoiler:
The thing that should cheer you up in this is that apparently he didn't watch.

Davian93 06-07-2017 09:13 AM

I absolutely hated the book and it was a struggle to even finish it.

GonzoTheGreat 06-07-2017 09:24 AM

I can remember that I've considered trying it at least a couple of times. I can't remember whether or not I did actually read it. Does that count, and if so, for what?

Brita 06-07-2017 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davian93 (Post 241955)
I absolutely hated the book and it was a struggle to even finish it.

Me too! In fact I haven't finished it and probably never will.

Leanne 06-13-2017 11:32 AM

This is interesting. I have a very close friend that loves the story and has been telling me to read so I can watch the TV series after. We have similar taste in TV shows at least. I have started numerous times and always just keep abandoning it. I thought it was just me being busy, I don't read much at all anymore. Maybe there is more to it then that.

I'm still going to give it a go though.

StrangePackage 06-13-2017 08:04 PM

I read the book many many times, and I enjoy the series.

I am shocked- SHOCKED- to hear that there may be exceptional or fantastic elements in this adaptation.

Jalyn 06-13-2017 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrangePackage (Post 242043)
I read the book many many times, and I enjoy the series.

I am shocked- SHOCKED- to hear that there may be exceptional or fantastic elements in this adaptation.

Pretty sure I didn't suggest a problem with fantastical elements (and a quick glance through the thread indicates I'm the only one that has had a problem with the adaptation - everyone else that's familiar with it has said that they didn't like the source work) My issue was entirely with political issues.

GonzoTheGreat 06-14-2017 03:31 AM

But politics are GREAT again, aren't they?
Spoiler:
Could I take credit for that? Should I?

StrangePackage 06-14-2017 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jalyn (Post 242045)
Pretty sure I didn't suggest a problem with fantastical elements (and a quick glance through the thread indicates I'm the only one that has had a problem with the adaptation - everyone else that's familiar with it has said that they didn't like the source work) My issue was entirely with political issues.

Complaining about political portrayals that you decry as totally unrealistic is a strange tactic. It's not as if the entire show is over the top or anything. That you chose to read politics into these things that I took as expressions of the myriad evolution of faith in America entirely in keeping with the source material... Well, that's something in itself, isn't it?

And as I understand it, Vulcan (who did not appear in the book) was created by Gaiman for use in the show. So...you may be barking up the wrong tree suggesting his inclusion is somehow contrary to the original intent of the author.

DahLliA 06-16-2017 06:28 AM

Haven't read the book, but I love the show.

If nothing else it's different.

yks 6nnetu hing 07-25-2017 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brita (Post 241960)
Me too! In fact I haven't finished it and probably never will.

me three. I did finish it but it took an effort.


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