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Originally Posted by Acaelus View Post
This is just a little something I thought I should bring to light in this discussion. Rand no longer has any need for a list of names. After his transformation he clearly states that the time for hiding and manipulating is over.

Somehow his transformation has given him the ability to recognise those who have sworn oaths to the Dark One. Evidence being when he lined up the High Lords and Ladies of Tear and removed the Darkfriends from their midst.

It is an assumption, but I believe it to be a correct one. That we can assume this new "sight" or "ability" will extend to all Darkfriends, including Black Ajah. Therefore the danger posed by sleeper cells of Black Ajah in Rand company taking him by surprise no longer exists. However that does not mean they pose no danger, just that the element of surprise is not a factor any more.

However, Egwene does not know this so her choice not to impart such crucial knowledge on a potentially world ending threat - the possibility of Rand being killed prematurely by Black Ajah Agents - is a very big oversight. The fact that it is unlikely to happen is no excuse. When the fate of your world hangs in the balance you don't play around.
This isn't actually the case, nor is it a new ability. Rand has demonstrated the power to "see" Darkfriends on two or three separate occasions, but each time he had reasons beyond merely looking at them, or looking into their eyes, to suspect the individuals.

The first time was actually in TSR, with Hadnan Kadere in the Waste. There, he had a suspicion that Kadere was involved with something, since he expected the Forsaken to move against him, and his sight amounted to seeing that Kadere was "dangerous" - but crucially not a Darkfriend, specifically. He even comments to Mat about the importance of the eyes.

The most famous time, of course, is the example you cite involving Weiramon, but even here Rand had other reasons to suspect Weiramon, possibly including a letter from Verin to the effect. Looking into Weiramon's eyes confirmed it, but it was purely confirmatory, not indicative. In any case, it is clear the eyes are important to spotting a DF; both instances involve looking at the eyes heavily, and there is a plethora of other evidence and metaphor throughout the series linking eyes to light and to soul, e.g. "Half the Light of the world to save the world".

Of course, that doesn't change the fact that you (and everyone else) is jumping to conclusions about Egwene. She may already have heard about Elza from any of the sisters allied to Rand, and the fact that she hasn't contacted him regarding any other Darkfriend Aes Sedai in his camp may simply indicate that she is not aware of any. This doesn't necessarily mean there aren't any; Verin herself mentioned that she can't be sure the list is completely comprehensive.
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