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Old 02-02-2012, 06:12 AM
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Bear with me on this:

In 2007, a scruffy guy in a baseball cap went down into a Washington, D.C., metro stop with a violin. He set up his case, put in a few coins and started to play. He fiddled for 45 minutes. Over 1,000 people passed him, and he earned 32 bucks. Not bad. That's about average for a subway musician.

But this guy was actually Joshua Bell, one of the best violinists in the world. A few nights before that subway performance, he had played Boston Symphony Hall, and you can bet he made a lot more than 32 bucks.

It's a very nice illustration about a broader idea about pleasure, which is that when we get pleasure from something, it's not merely based on what we see or what we hear or what we feel. Rather, it's based on what we believe that thing to be.

And so, someone listening to the music of Joshua Bell is going to hear it differently and like it more if they believe it's from Joshua Bell. If you hear the same music and think it's from some scruffy, anonymous street performer, it doesn't sound so good.

And I think that's a more general fact about pleasure. I think wine doesn't taste as good if you don't know it's expensive or special wine. A painting is going to look different to you, and you're going to value it differently, if you don't - depending on who you think created it.

Now what does this have to do with this particular debate?

Well, ykks, dislikes Gambling. To her(for she is a lady, which i made an error on before!) Mat is a gambler. Therefor her interpretation of all things that Mat does is taken from the standpoint that gamblers are bad and therefor all their actions are bad.

In a situation like this we all make our decisions and tend to stick with them. I believe it is a futile discussion trying to change a persons "likes".

In a similar way it is a wasted effort arguing about whether we should like Egwene or nbot. People have made their minds up and we won't change them.

However, it can be fun to read the different points of view as long as you accept that people have a right to feel whatever way they like about a character.
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