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I can't remember if we've started discussing this already, but I thought I'd hide the topic in the title.

Perrin's Hammer

I have a hard time believing it won't do more than just well...what it did. Do you think it will have any other abilities currently unknown to us? Any initial ideas/predictions on this?
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Well, we've already seen it sizzling when he plays whack-a-mole with shadowspawn. Considering he named it Mjolnir, I was kinda hoping for some lightening and sparks.
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I expect that Perrin's hammer will harm Darkhounds and likely other shadow spawn that are immune to conventional weapons. With his production of so many power wrought weapons, Perrin's whole army will excel at fighting shadow spawn.

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I agree that it will probably harm Darkhounds, shadowspawn and maybe even a gholam (though I really doubt we'll ever see that).

I think it will also be very good at creating things - it's probably one hell of a forge hammer.
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Considering his wolf connections I'd say it'll turn out to be the weapon that works on Darkhounds.
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on a way side note, back when I was a wee-young undergraduate, I named my rock hammer Mjlnir. But it didn't any of the cool things of myth.
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Considering his wolf connections I'd say it'll turn out to be the weapon that works on Darkhounds.
Surely...
It could get very interesting if it can reverse the Darkhound-ness, reverting them to Wolves. Perhaps a little too much to hope for, but if this is the war to remove creatures of the Shadow from the timeline, it might make sense.
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He will be able to throw it at people, and have it return to his hand.

Or maybe he will be the only one able to wield it. Maybe it burns others who try to pick it up.
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Well, we've already seen it sizzling when he plays whack-a-mole with shadowspawn. Considering he named it Mjolnir, I was kinda hoping for some lightening and sparks.
We'll get sparks and lightning when he fights a fade, just like we saw it for mats ashandarei clashing with the fade's sword somewhere in books 4-5 i think
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It will talk, and it will sound like Chip in Beauty and the Beast.

Other than that I'm not sure.
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Perrin says that he can feel himself being put into the Hammer, or at least part of him flowing into the Hammer. Given the wolf theme, perhaps it'll have some interesting properties in Tel'aran'rhiod.

There's also the old theory of mine that says that Perrin and an army of wolves will be the ones to face down Shaidar Haran during the Last Battle. It could be that this hammer will actually give him the chance to do it and not just get owned by the Super Fade.
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There's also the old theory of mine that says that Perrin and an army of wolves will be the ones to face down Shaidar Haran during the Last Battle. It could be that this hammer will actually give him the chance to do it and not just get owned by the Super Fade.
I can see Perrin being the one to take on SH. He will most likely be in the vanguard for the battle-forces of the Light, SH's equivalent with the Shadow. Matrim will likely have over-all military command for the Light's forces after Rand hands him the reigns, I can see this being Demandred's place for the Shadow (though I am not saying these two will fight).
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I hope it doesnt do anything else. I felt the magic hammer was a bit cheesy.

Power-wrought items that wont break or dull is one thing, but adding cheap mystical bullshit should be left to Dragonlance imo.
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yeah, I was thinking "Warhammer +3 (Fiery vs Shadowspawn)" during that part of the book.
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It fits in with the general idea of Perrin being the WoT incarnation of Thor with his hammer Mjollnir.

"In Norse polytheism, Thor (from Old Norse rr) is a hammer-wielding god associated with thunder, lightning, storms, oak trees, strength, destruction, fertility, healing, and the protection of mankind." From Wikepedia of course. Many of the 'themes' wrapped into Perrin's character.

We'll just have to see if he dies at Ragnarok, erm sorry, Tarmon Gai'don.

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It fits in with the general idea of Perrin being the WoT incarnation of Thor with his hammer Mjollnir.
Perrin's new power-wrought Hammer fits, in with Perun's Hammer hitting the Devil in the head too.
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As cool as it would be to have Perrin be able to throw his hammer and have it mystically return to him, I think this would be a little cheesy as far as plot devices go. However, I could see him doing something like this in T'A'R; throwing his hammer, and having it return to him boomerang style. In the waking world, however, I think it is simply a nigh indestructible, Shadowspawn burning, Darkhound killing, super Blacksmith forging megahammer.
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I hope it doesnt do anything else. I felt the magic hammer was a bit cheesy.

Power-wrought items that wont break or dull is one thing, but adding cheap mystical bullshit should be left to Dragonlance imo.
Power-wrought weapons have always had that effect against Shadowspawn.
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Power-wrought weapons have always had that effect against Shadowspawn.
No they have not.

They have sent up showers of blue sparks when coming into contact with shadow-wrought weapons. That is not the same thing. Can you please provide me a single example of any power-wrought items sizzling, smoking, or flaming up when they come in contact with the flesh of a shadowspawn?
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No they have not.

They have sent up showers of blue sparks when coming into contact with shadow-wrought weapons. That is not the same thing. Can you please provide me a single example of any power-wrought items sizzling, smoking, or flaming up when they come in contact with the flesh of a shadowspawn?
As far as I know, the only weapons that have shown a similar ability are those wielded by the occasional Darkfriend (Noble looking woman in tEotW for one).
 


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