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Old 02-07-2011, 07:46 PM
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I like how no-one has brought up the possibility that they are the last of the Malkieri
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Sorry if i missed this while reading but what is the timeframe for this event? As we know some of the characters are a couple months behind others and the reason i ask is because one of the advantages of being the DR is the ability to propose when TG occurs (the DO is sealed up and arguably even if he sends his whole army against Rand now its still not the Last Battle, since its not at SG and they are not fighting each other). Now if the sighting of the red veiled individual is a few hours or a day or two AFTER whatever happens at Merrilor (? on spelling) and Rand's army is moving then this is VERY strong evidence that the red veil is part of the DO's forces because its very understandable why they would be mobilising right now, otherwise why? Its an incredible coincidence they just so happen to be moving now of all times and so far we have no other (justifiable) reasons they would be moving at all.

This was really aimed at the whole Jenn/Sedai comments and the argument they might be good. My apologies if i misread the chapter, in that case ignore me.
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...On the other hand they COULD be the true people of the dragon...i know we think its the aiel, but this fits the prophecies better (he will break them by the leaf) and the Jenn aiel are admitted to be the TRUE aiel, if we speculate they went into the blight because of the prophecies concerning the dragon and still holding onto the way of the leaf, and have become insane...

Nowhere does it say he will DIRECTLY break them by the way of the leaf, and to have the way of the leaf in a place of such violence and chaos so close to the DO's influence could very well break them, they are now crazy savages, dispicable remnants of their former selves. This also fits in with Aviendhas future-seeing(?) and the other prophecies (but a remnant of a remnant will be left), in this case Aviendhas thing is 100% true and the aiel WILL die out but they are not the remnant that it concerns, in other words it is too late for them, the Wise ones are desperately trying to uphold their own prophecies so some can be saved not realising the only ones to be saved are those who held to the fortellings which needed to be fulfilled in preparation for the Dragons coming in the first place.

I know considering the narrative Aviendha will probably do something, but that would be such an awesome plot twist and call me a cynic but i would LOVE the ending to not be all roses.

I will try and look up the prophecies and such again, if i missed something stupid my apologies
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"I cant take you into a Hel!..." Tuon privately smiled, he did think of her as a woman! "...Some of them really REALLY...you know...like kids..."

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Because the Malkieri are with Lan or living in other lands (those who were able to survive/escape). And the others were killed off.

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Has anyone brought up the possibility that they are Aiel that Padan Fain has got his hands on and twisted?

That at least makes the teeth part make sense.
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Frankly, I don't think Fain has the patience for that. He would get bored half way through the project, and eat the lot himself.
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Why can't they be constructions ala Aginor's creations.
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They're almost certainly the "_____ in the Blight" RJ spoke of on his deathbed, aren't they? I still think that might be "tribe of Aiel".
 

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