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Okay, if Luca's going to be there then Galad needs to be there too, which is of course a package deal including Berelain. This is starting to get interesting. In fact, I think Faile needs to be there so she can shave Berelain's head, which means we get Perrin too.
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Just to be clear, I'm thinking less 'marriage' at this point and more 'massive orgy'.
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Nice...

Anyway, Elayne Dies- Aviendha takes over having her kids. I don't know how, but the plus side of me randomly throwing this out is that Elayne dies.

Which also readdresses the male-female numbers problem in T's "big Orgy"!
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Remember reading A Game of Thrones, where the big reveal relies on a system of genetics that, uh... doesn't exist in our world, and hasn't really been explained (until its explained along with the secret it evidences).
Completely off-topic, but I don't remember any dodgy genetics in A Game Of Thrones. There's some linguistic dodging and weaving in A Feast For Crows about different pronouns, but I don't know what you're referring to in AGOT.
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Not to get all biological about this orgy thing, but keep in mind that Aviendha's egg isn't going to split four ways for this to happen, else all four children would be identical.

Interestingly, it just happened in Cali this year: Redwood City couple have natural fraternal quadruplets. But in that case, two of the babies were identical, so there were three eggs (possibly only two, they haven't figured that out yet), which is even more rare.

But "rare" is kind of moot at this stage of WoT.
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Just to be clear, I'm thinking less 'marriage' at this point and more 'massive orgy'.
Wonder how this 'massive orgy' of 'love', will be taken in by the Ogiers present at Tar Valon?

  • Seanchan Gardeners
  • Loial's massive following

RJ did say "they will met"... without specifically how or why.


Perhaps Faile will shaved Berelain's head like an Egg in an attempt to copy the royal look Fortuona?

Berelain is of 'Hawkwing's Blood' after all!

Where would Berelain be shaved at? Tar Valon metro area.


Who knows the Empress lacks hair? And who is or will be in Tar Valon soon?


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  • Harnan
Aes Sedai
  • Teslyn Baradon
  • Joline
  • Edesina Azzedin
  • Egeanin Tamarath (Sarna)/Leilwin
  • Juilin
  • Amathera
Whom out of this bunch would likely Berelain trust?

Amathera, who even Thom found no dirt on when she was Panarch of Tarabon.


Elayne once did Dream, that she would "share" Rand with multiple other women, and Amathera was specifically mentioned 'twice' in two Dreams.

Sure looks like Mat Cauthon is going to marry (technically) a LOT of women in AMoL book... to quote "protect them" and to end Fortuona's war.


Let Toss The Dice, big time and guess that Mat will marry:
  • Rand, Aviendha, Elayne, Min
  • Valan Luca, Latelle
  • Amathera Aelfdene Casmir Lounault, Juilin
  • Berelain, Galad
  • Faile, (Perrin dies physically)
  • Nynaeve, (Lan dies physically in Blight)
  • Egwene, Gawyn
  • Talmanes
I need to think more about Birgitte, Liandrin and a few other characters future roles still....

Fortuona is in for a rude surprise in AMoL book.
What's a girl to do? In anger, try to fry her new husband with Lightning?

Hell, a "Little Lightning" will prove it's really Mat! Right?
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This is the one weak point in your current theory. There are so very many references to Mat "not doing that kind of thing anymore, cause he's now a married man" that I think Fortuona won't expect him to "stay true to her" at all. Instead, she will be enormously surprised by the whole concept, as Seanchan men of such high station would just naturally have a couple (or more) mistresses.

Just reread those passages where Mat is looking at women, and keep in mind that he is making an assumption. Then ask yourself: is his assumption justified?
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I bet she will at least share Selucia with him.
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Just reread those passages where Mat is looking at women, and keep in mind that he is making an assumption. Then ask yourself: is his assumption justified?
Yes. Yes, I'm justified.

Your assumption is Mat Cauthon is doing the "asking"... I do not made that assumption.


The assumption is Elayne, Min, Aviendha among others are going to do the "asking", not Mat Cauthon.

All Mat Cauthon has to do, is answer them all, in the very presents of Fortuona AND Selucia.



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Odds are quite high, that Selucia is going to SLAP Mat Cauthon upon hearing this too. It's a repeat of past events, when a Seanchan Emperor was SLAPPED by his Truth Speaker (Tuon pov).
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I bet she will at least share Selucia with him.
You know that was one of the characters, I'm still thinking about... I can see that as a possibility, however I need to re-read Selucia's scenes again.


Separately:

Selucia's always struck me, as Tuon's mother... not her real birth mother.


I do think that Selucia as Truth Speaker and Voice for the Empress will tell Fortuona, will tell Mat Cauthon that 'Fortuona accepts Mat Cauthon freeing the Aes Sedai, Damane from the a'dam so long as they follow his authority'. Why? It's a loophole to protect Fortuona from the a'dam as a damane, which Selucia knows risks "her daughter's" position. Selucia trusts Mat Cauthon enough, to know he can order around Aes Sedai without fear or danger.
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