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View Poll Results: What do you think about Egwene?
I love Egwene! 26 24.53%
She's alright. 26 24.53%
Meh. 22 20.75%
Egwene sucks. 15 14.15%
Egwene should die in a fire. 17 16.04%
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It is indeed.

Well, for better or for worse (but probably for worse), this thread is about Egwene.

I thought I did, above. I compared her to Siuan and Moiraine and found her lacking. For me at least, I'm more annoyed by how badly her 'competence' is written than the fact that she's a spoiled arrogant brat. Rand's a spoiled arrogant brat too, and I don't care for him, but I don't actively dislike him.

This is an interesting point. But it raises the question: do we judge from our relative omniscience and modern perspective? Or do we judge from within the universe? The contemporary wisdom (in our world) seems to favor a gender-neutral approach, while the WoT universe is steeped in strong gender roles and widespread gender consciousness.

One of the biggest obstacles I had to overcome in writing my theories was the abandoning of my views on the nature of evil (and time, meaning, substance, etc). I think evil is an absence, a lack of goodness. But in the WoT universe, evil is a present opposite, and needs to be understood as such. Perhaps there is something to be said for approaching this in the opposite manner: to abandon our beliefs on gender and relearn them from within the WoT universe.
You may not be aware of it, but I didn't originally post this in this thread. That explains why I said I'd rather talk more generally about the female characters and ideas of gender and the way we react to them, rather than Egwene specifically. It also explains why I haven't elaborated on it since it was moved - although I think the move was appropriate given what I was responding to, and the responses I got - because every time I even click on the Egwene thread a part of my soul dies.
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I have never really gotten involved in the Egwene threads but my opinion of her is she can be an extraordinarily cool character and then she can be an extraordinarily annoying character.

For me, Egwene in the books was:

1-3: A worthy addition as a major minor character
4-5: Why am I reading about you instead of Rand and the Aiel.
6-10: I see where RJ was going but I tend to read alot quicker during her parts than others.
11-13: Getting cool again with brief moments of frustration.
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