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Old 04-15-2012, 04:27 PM
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Hehe. I was about to suggest Elaida here, for about the same reasons.
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Most competent Villain?

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(Who?).. the female Aes Sedai who was intrumental in the Fateful Concord.... an action which meant only men would be avialible for The Strike at Shayol Ghul. Which basically caused the breaking of the world, the taint on saidain and generally messed everything up.

ofc it remains to be seen if she did a "good thing" (no saidier taint) or a bad thing (it could have all been sorted 1,000 years ago).

I'm more on the side that she was a Darkfriend manipulating the light from within; which makes her tyhe most competant villain who is not the Dark One


My other alternative is Lanfear for the drilling of the bore in the first place
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:55 AM
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(Who?).. the female Aes Sedai who was intrumental in the Fateful Concord.... an action which meant only men would be avialible for The Strike at Shayol Ghul. Which basically caused the breaking of the world, the taint on saidain and generally messed everything up.
If women were there and a SaSG type attack enacted, saidar would have been tainted too. Jordan has stated that clearly. That would have been much worse. Recall LTT's whole "something had to touch the DO" shtick. Women there would not have made a difference in that sort of attack, the fatal flaw with the plan would still be present.

Granted, LTT might have been planning something completely differently with the women. But that's not made clear anywhere.
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Burn my soul, no mention of this Logain Ablar fellow?

Allowed several dozen Sisters to infiltrate the Black Tower, and has almost succeeded in dividing the Black Tower and turn it against the loyal Lord Taim.
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Burn my soul, no mention of this Logain Ablar fellow?

Allowed several dozen Sisters to infiltrate the Black Tower, and has almost succeeded in dividing the Black Tower and turn it against the loyal Lord Taim.
XD I think you'd be a lot of fun rp with. Just sayin. lol.
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Most competent Villain?

Latra Posae Decume

(Who?).. the female Aes Sedai who was intrumental in the Fateful Concord.... an action which meant only men would be avialible for The Strike at Shayol Ghul. Which basically caused the breaking of the world, the taint on saidain and generally messed everything up.

ofc it remains to be seen if she did a "good thing" (no saidier taint) or a bad thing (it could have all been sorted 1,000 years ago).

I'm more on the side that she was a Darkfriend manipulating the light from within; which makes her tyhe most competant villain who is not the Dark One
The plan was flawed and Rand knows this. In addition RJ has flat out stated the only difference if the women had been involved would have been for Saidar to have been tainted as well. LPD said the plan was too risky and she ended up being right, if not for the reasons initially thought.

As for her being a DF that is unlikely bordering on impossible. She was instrumental in helping the world get through the breaking and earned the nickname Shadar Nor(Cutter of the Shadow) for her efforts in the fighting.
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As for her being a DF that is unlikely bordering on impossible. She was instrumental in helping the world get through the breaking and earned the nickname Shadar Nor(Cutter of the Shadow) for her efforts in the fighting.
So she eliminated the competition (other DF) and at the same time convinced the rest of the female AS to give up on their attempts to combat the Taint. What makes you think she served the Light, precisely?
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Hmmmmm is there such a thing as "the most competent" among completely incompetent people? I mean let's face it the Wheel has been turning for a VERY long time and the DO still hasn't managed to break free. But the least incompetent so far would be Asmodean who gave Couladin his dragon marks and forced Rand to reveal the truth to the Aiel crippling the most powerful army in the world who would probably have conquered all of the wetlands for Rand by book 7 or at least 9 then conquered the Blight in one or two books and after one more book Rand would have figured out how to remake the DO's prison and the heroes would have spent the remaining books happily gambling for their places in the history books eventually losing all their glory to Mat. Asmodean ruined it all!
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BTW, Shadar Haran strikes me as a very competent villain.
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Maybe, but like a lot of seemingly competent supervillains, he has surrounded himself with a rather incompetent set of followers.
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Sammael. He's responsible for scattering the Shaido, almost killed Rand at the battle of Cairhien, and is I think one of the only forsaken besides Graendal that Rand actually spent a long time planning to defeat.

Bonus points for not fighting Rand in T'AR, where not having a clue what you are doing is an advantage, but goading your attacker into coming to a dangerous place where you have an army waiting.

And without Moridin, he even would have won that battle.
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