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Hmm... seems reasonable enough. That might absolve Cadsuane. Yet the WT should have had a plan in place for dealing with the DR. After all they all knew that that was definitely going to happen.
Most of the members of the US Congress believes that Jesus will return (eventually, sometime), yet as far as I know, they do not have any kind of official plan for that eventuality at all. I don't think even the Vatican has an official "transfer of power back to the Lord" scenario worked out.

So it seems quite believable that the AS wouldn't have prepared for this eventuality either.
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Most of the members of the US Congress believes that Jesus will return (eventually, sometime), yet as far as I know, they do not have any kind of official plan for that eventuality at all. I don't think even the Vatican has an official "transfer of power back to the Lord" scenario worked out.

So it seems quite believable that the AS wouldn't have prepared for this eventuality either.
The key word here is 'believe' against 'know'. Do they know Jesus is retuning? Do they have a set of prophecies to be fulfilled as proof that he has returned?

Rand's case is different. Unlike vague beliefs about Jesus' return, the DR has a set of signs to prove that he has returned.

We prepare for eventualities like earthquakes, fire accidents and we don't prepare for alien invasion.
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The key word here is 'believe' against 'know'. Do they know Jesus is retuning? Do they have a set of prophecies to be fulfilled as proof that he has returned?

Rand's case is different. Unlike vague beliefs about Jesus' return, the DR has a set of signs to prove that he has returned.

We prepare for eventualities like earthquakes, fire accidents and we don't prepare for alien invasion.
41% of Americans believe that Jesus will return. And yes, there is a set of prophecies to be fulfilled as proof...they call it the Book of Revelation.

To that group, there is no difference between "believe" and "know"
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41% of Americans believe that Jesus will return. And yes, there is a set of prophecies to be fulfilled as proof...they call it the Book of Revelation.

To that group, there is no difference between "believe" and "know"
But they are commoners. Not like AS. As for the Church not being prepared for the coming Jesus, Jesus is not supposed to be destructive in himself like the DR, who might go insane.

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There is big a difference. We believe that God exists but we don't know. We believe there are alien life forms somewhere in the universe, we don't know.
I take it you havent spent a lot of time with members of the Religious Right...
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I take it you havent spent a lot of time with members of the Religious Right...
No, and here in India, most of us are not even aware that Jesus is supposed to return. See, that's the difference. Jesus' return affects only those who believe in him. The Dragon's return is foretold all across the known world and even in Shara.
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