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If the Founders were infallible, Trump wouldn't be able to run for president.
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If the Founders considered illegal immigrants to play a vital role in American politics, there would not be a citizenship requirement.


http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/wa...american-youth
This article has nothing to do with immigration, illegal or legal, nor anything to do with citizenship requirements. Why are you linking it? As an aside, you also have a tendency to read some rather dubious and obscure sources.
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If the Founders were infallible, Trump wouldn't be able to run for president.
He's far from the first racist to run. Far from the first idiot, or narcissist. It's embarrassing that simply asserting unconditional support for the 2nd Amendment and unconditional opposition to abortion is enough to overcome his blatant racism and misogyny, but he is clearly a naturally born citizen of sufficient age. He has thus fulfilled the only prereqs, even if he is still perhaps the least qualified major party candidate in the history of the Union. It's sad that he'll get so many votes, but being a POS shouldn't disqualify someone from running.

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Its a feature, not a bug for them.
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He's far from the first racist to run. Far from the first idiot, or narcissist. It's embarrassing that simply asserting unconditional support for the 2nd Amendment and unconditional opposition to abortion is enough to overcome his blatant racism and misogyny, but he is clearly a naturally born citizen of sufficient age. He has thus fulfilled the only prereqs, even if he is still perhaps the least qualified major party candidate in the history of the Union. It's sad that he'll get so many votes, but being a POS shouldn't disqualify someone from running.
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Because this is a free society. Being disgusted by the things he has said and done is a reason not to vote for him, not to deny his right to run, or the right of bigots and idiots to vote for him. It's a bad choice to vote for him, but they still deserve the right to make that bad choice.
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Because this is a free society. Being disgusted by the things he has said and done is a reason not to vote for him, not to deny his right to run, or the right of bigots and idiots to vote for him. It's a bad choice to vote for him, but they still deserve the right to make that bad choice.
By that logic people should have the right to make the bad choice of cutting someone's throat. There are things people must not be free to do. Perhaps being a POS is not one of them, but whether it is or not "this is a free society" is a BS argument and it will be so in any given discussion. Rid yourself of that notion. It just isn't true.
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By that logic people should have the right to make the bad choice of cutting someone's throat. There are things people must not be free to do. Perhaps being a POS is not one of them, but whether it is or not "this is a free society" is a BS argument and it will be so in any given discussion. Rid yourself of that notion. It just isn't true.
I hope you're just trolling.

If, by chance, you're not, this tends to be the end result of the type of thinking exemplified above:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ir...-idUSKCN0V419V
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I hope you're just trolling.
So you still believe in freedom. That is rather disgusting actually. Maybe you just haven't applied thought to the subject.
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If the Founders had been opposed to illegal immigration, they would have stayed inside the original 13 colonies, rather than illegally immigrating all over what is now mainland USA.
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Wallonia finally backed down.

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Wallonia finally backed down.

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And the EU survives another day...
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