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There's pretty much zero point to even predict how "something would be in the book" since that book will never been finished. GRRM is 68 years old, lazy as lazy can be, has clearly written himself into a corner and has no way to get out of it and he's literally written one book in 12 years now...a book that was supposedly 80% finished when he published Feast in 2005.
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Hah. The Arya-Sansa drama might've been even worse than it seemed: http://io9.gizmodo.com/game-of-thron...hat-1798622658
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Wow...that's awful. It does fall right in with Sansa being the dumbest person on the planet of course but still. That is awful awful writing.
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Wow...that's awful. It does fall right in with Sansa being the dumbest person on the planet of course but still. That is awful awful writing.
I don't see how the current setup makes Sansa any less dumb, and Arya even dumber.
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I don't see how the current setup makes Sansa any less dumb, and Arya even dumber.
At least we could have pretended that they were playing him from the start without knowing this. This makes it even dumber.
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At least we could have pretended that they were playing him from the start without knowing this. This makes it even dumber.
I honestly have to ask what the writers were thinking when they wrote that scene, let alone filmed it.

Like Stannis's butchered character, do they hate the character of Sansa so much as to make her completely daff? Because at least without that scene, people can easily speculate that Sansa finally set up Baelish and turned the tables on him, using his own game.
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I swear. They left all these scenes in where Sansa shows her distrust of LF. They should obviously have had her scheming from the beginning, and instead of having those obviously pointless fights between her and Arya, shown her to be working with Yohn Royce and others. If you want to pretend she's taken in, fine. Just have her meet them, say 'i have a problem regarding my sister", then cut away. Let the audience assume she's scheming against Arya, then reveal later that she was actually scheming against LF.

Why they didn't do something so simple is beyond me.
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I swear. They left all these scenes in where Sansa shows her distrust of LF. They should obviously have had her scheming from the beginning, and instead of having those obviously pointless fights between her and Arya, shown her to be working with Yohn Royce and others. If you want to pretend she's taken in, fine. Just have her meet them, say 'i have a problem regarding my sister", then cut away. Let the audience assume she's scheming against Arya, then reveal later that she was actually scheming against LF.

Why they didn't do something so simple is beyond me.
If nothing else, they should have added a short soliloquy that immediately followed her scene with Littlefinger, the one where he was trying to get her to imagine the worst motivations for Arya's actions. They could have either used it to finally make her do the same openly with regards to Littlefinger, or, if they wanted to make her seem slightly more perceptive, just use it to have her quietly comment to herself after he left the room something along the lines of "Just how stupid do you think I am?".

I think this was the unfortunate result of their cost-saving decision to have Sansa take the place of the fake-Arya as Ramsay's wife. Much of Sansa's growth/training took place in the Vale, scenes that were curtailed so that they could combine her plot with Ramsay's. It meant that she had to continue playing the brainless damsel in distress instead of training with Littlefinger to become the devious, Machiavellian politician in parallel to her sister's assassin training.
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