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Old 11-09-2009, 06:11 AM
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Just imagine that Masema had ended up in Hinderstap.

Come to think of it: if a Hinderstappian is balefired, would he still returned next morning?
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Just imagine that Masema had ended up in Hinderstap.

Come to think of it: if a Hinderstappian is balefired, would he still returned next morning?
Hinderstappian? Hinderstappite? Hinderstappan? Hinderstappican? Hinderstaptch? Hinderstap?

hmm. This calls for a question to Brandon.
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Hinderstappian? Hinderstappite? Hinderstappan? Hinderstappican? Hinderstaptch? Hinderstap?

hmm. This calls for a question to Brandon.
lol! I thought the concept for Hinderstap was an interesting idea, it just didn't fit in the WoT world as I know it.

All other bubbles of evil were totally random, chaotic and destructive. This was too....neat and thought out. Perhaps one of them named the dark one and brought his attention there specifically, but otherwise this scenario is too organized to be a bubble of evil imo. It just doesn't fit.

I'm not as vehement about disliking it as Ozy, and certainly I can understand why people enjoyed it, but unless it comes into play a little later and is explained a little more, it is just too disjointed from the rest of the story for me to buy it.
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I hope Brandon doesn't read this thread and think we're unhappy with his job. He did an amazing job overall on the book. Honestly, for all we know, Hinderstap was RJ's idea so its a bit unfair to criticize him for it.
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I hope Brandon doesn't read this thread and think we're unhappy with his job. He did an amazing job overall on the book. Honestly, for all we know, Hinderstap was RJ's idea so its a bit unfair to criticize him for it.
Oh, I hope not! If this is the only controversy...then that's pretty damn good considering the monumental task at hand.
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Hinderstappanese? Hinderstapani? Hinderstappimo? Hinderstappemite? Hinderstappee? Hinderstapicote?
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I hope Brandon doesn't read this thread and think we're unhappy with his job. He did an amazing job overall on the book. Honestly, for all we know, Hinderstap was RJ's idea so its a bit unfair to criticize him for it.
If Brandon reads this thread he will think everything is right in the world, Theoryland still doesn't agree and will argue/discuss about anything and everything.
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hey now, I disagree with that statement and I intend to argue about it!
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Why skip Galad and Perrin!?



Hopefully we see a bit of it in ToM but it wouldn't make chronological sense unless Brandon went backward in time (something I thought they were trying to get away from).
I felt the need to go back to the original topic. I know, unheard of. Since the book was split as it was, Brandon will need to go back in time in the next book to catch up the other storylines. HE made it clear before the book that there are four major storylines that need to be wrapped up and brought up to the same time. There would be two in each of the first two books.

On a side note, this was brought up at dinner on Friday as well. I specifically asked if we would see the meeting with Perrin and Galad. He said, "You know Perrin and Galad are together, and you will see Perrin and Galad in the next book." The way he said it made me believe we would see it, but of course he wouldn't say it exactly like that.
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everyone knows it's obviously, "Hinderstapper."

I have some vague hope of seeing what led up to the meeting. like, seriously, how does Perrin just all up and decide, "I know.... Let's hook up with the Whitecloaks! Yeah, they're reasonable and friendly-seeming folk "

Otoh, I like the idea of limiting the narrative to good stuff, like real plot resolution, drama, battles, and character growth. As opposed to beating the same idea into the ground for the thousandth time from the exact same angle, wrestling with self-doubt over and over and over, picking out dresses, or arguing with each other over past/future occurrences.

I'm sure there was lots of discussion before the meet-up with the Galad and I'm equally sure that any new/interesting points can be visited most entertainingly in a flashback.

So BS's "dodgy" answer probably just means that we don't really need to do the timewarp at all.
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Well, in the meeting between Perrin and Galad, there's going to be a bit where Galad goes "Mom? I thought you were dead."
That might be amusing. As might Faile's reaction be, when she realised that her maid is actually a queen.
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Well, in the meeting between Perrin and Galad, there's going to be a bit where Galad goes "Mom? I thought you were dead."
That might be amusing. As might Faile's reaction be, when she realised that her maid is actually a queen.
Or Faile starts eying Galad like other women in the series do and get into another cat fight with Berelain.

And now Rhuarc is not there to end it I say call for some mud too
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Morgase will definitely be an interesting wrinkle in there. As to Faile, she'll probably just try to ignore Galad's prettiness thinking to herself that she likes her men more rugged or something.
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