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Old 04-24-2010, 12:36 AM
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One of my own theories that's been rumbling in the back of my head for a while: what if the song the Tinkers are searching for is "Wash the spears," the Aiel battle song? It would be an ironic twist, because they largely avoid each other, and to accept the song would be a recognition/reconciliation of the lost ones. I don't know what other theories are out there about the song, but it's bothered me that the song hasn't been found and the last battle is coming.

(Hello, by the way, I'm Alanna, and this is post #2 for me? ^_^ I'm not new to the series by any means, but delayed for no reason in finding someone to talk to about WOT who wasn't my brother)
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One of my own theories that's been rumbling in the back of my head for a while: what if the song the Tinkers are searching for is "Wash the spears," the Aiel battle song?
Unlikely, assuming that a Tinker would recoginse the Song when he or she hears it.
While not many Tinkers will have witnessed Aiel battles, some undoubtedly did. They wouldn't be killed or even threatened themselves, so afterwards they could report on what they saw and (more importantly) heard to other Tinkers.

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"Sing?" Adan scoffed. "I have heard those old stories, too, that Aiel singing was a wondrous thing, but you know those old songs no more than I do. The songs are gone, and the old days are gone. We will not give up our duty to the Aes Sedai to chase after what is lost forever."
That shows that the idea of a song which was part of the Golden Age is actually older than giving up the Way of the Leaf and picking up the spear.

So while it is an interesting idea, it is not one that will work.
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Am I missing something? Even if people find out the actual song, that it has to be sung by Aiel and Ogier, and that a Nym is needed to put it all together, isn't it pointless considering that Someshta was the last of the Nym, so any pursuit of seed singing is a blind alley. At least until the age when the Nym return (unless someone thinks you can fit a Nym in a stasis box).

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Along those lines here is my theory, not sure if it's been posted before, probably has been discussed. Here it goes anyways what do people think of the idea of the Green man's grave site playing an important role after, during or just before the last battle. For example some character needs refuge (possibly Elayne and the babes, or if she dies giving birth someone scoops the babies up) anyways some character needs it and bam the Green Man's grave grove is there.

p.s. I trademark the alliterative phrase Green man's grave grove... awesome
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Hello, longtime lurker,

Forgive me if this has been discussed, but What about Fain?

I have been of the mind after finishing a complete re-read that the different sort of evil that Fain represents could be important. My thoughts are that the Dark One is not some sort of Dark Creator but that he came later, For example somewhere it talks about how that original bore was created or maybe created with a patch from the beginning. What if Fain's evil is what becomes the next DO?

The current one, obsessed with the Dragon always wants to destroy him. The Dragon defeats him somehow but has to seal up the next one, we have seen Fain gain unique powers and abilities and that could grow.

This is just a thought but I can see it.
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I think someone actually posted this as a formal theory, or tried to. And someone brought it up at a panel at JordanCon too. It sort of gets skewed by two things: 1, RJ said Fain was unique to this Age, something new altogether, so it's hard to see him having any sort of eternal role, and 2) it's hard to see how Fain could develop that sort of power. It's a neat-ish idea, but I think not all that feasible. Much more likely that Fain will do what everyone expects and play some sort of gollum role in the sealing of the prison.
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Along those lines here is my theory, not sure if it's been posted before, probably has been discussed. Here it goes anyways what do people think of the idea of the Green man's grave site playing an important role after, during or just before the last battle. For example some character needs refuge (possibly Elayne and the babes, or if she dies giving birth someone scoops the babies up) anyways some character needs it and bam the Green Man's grave grove is there.
Heh, I kinda like that. Chekhov's Nym.
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