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The first two restaurants that were hit, they are on the same block as the apartment building where I rented a room during the summer of 2006. That was my old neighborhood. This whole thing is so weird for me.

Charlie Hebdo is not so uncharacteristic of French people in general. 'Off-color' doesn't mean the same in France as it does in a lot of other places. French people are used to just saying and writing what they want. Hurt feelings? That's not really a thing in France. After 9-11, it didn't take long for Europeans to start making jokes about it. I've never heard anyone in the U.S. make a joke about 9-11. Ever. It doesn't surprise me that Charlie Hebdo would publish something like this.
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The first two restaurants that were hit, they are on the same block as the apartment building where I rented a room during the summer of 2006. That was my old neighborhood. This whole thing is so weird for me.

Charlie Hebdo is not so uncharacteristic of French people in general. 'Off-color' doesn't mean the same in France as it does in a lot of other places. French people are used to just saying and writing what they want. Hurt feelings? That's not really a thing in France. After 9-11, it didn't take long for Europeans to start making jokes about it. I've never heard anyone in the U.S. make a joke about 9-11. Ever. It doesn't surprise me that Charlie Hebdo would publish something like this.
Yeah...the French mentality in general is pretty awesome. I love the French, France and their entire view on life.
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That's me. I hate spouting off on Facebook about politics or religion, but after much hesitation I joined the fray. I just felt that I needed to add my voice. But tbh, it is discouraging to see so much fear, misinformation and selfishness around this issue.
Yeah, that's why I'm not on Facebook anymore...I got sick of listening to people I otherwise like spout off with the most awful viewpoints ever. Its easier to love my family, friends, etc without knowing their wacko viewpoints.
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Yeah, that's why I'm not on Facebook anymore...I got sick of listening to people I otherwise like spout off with the most awful viewpoints ever. Its easier to love my family, friends, etc without knowing their wacko viewpoints.
Couldn't you pick family and such without wacko viewpoints?
Seems to me that you planned your current (re-)incarnation rather badly. Should've taken Facebook into account, you know.
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Seems to me that you planned your current (re-)incarnation rather badly. Should've taken Facebook into account, you know.
It's the preincarnation party. You get so drunk because it's your last chance for close to two decades and the next thing you know is all those last minute formalities should have been done in a clearer mind and you should have opted for remembering the past lives even though it meant you'd have to suffer the rest of the hangover.
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Despite having a number of friends and family members currently in the military or retired military, I haven't seen anything actually against Muslims. I hesitate to put "yet" because I want to think better of them. At the same time, I have to wonder about some of them.
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Yeah, that's why I'm not on Facebook anymore...I got sick of listening to people I otherwise like spout off with the most awful viewpoints ever. Its easier to love my family, friends, etc without knowing their wacko viewpoints.
I'm sure they feel the same about me. Well, some of them. Others (like my mom) have actually been shamed into something approaching sanity.
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I'm sure they feel the same about me. Well, some of them. Others (like my mom) have actually been shamed into something approaching sanity.
I have a facebook account that I never use. On the very infrequent times I do log on- to see pics of the baby etc- most of the people on it are posting inane stuff. Or linking to funny videos, the kinda stuff that would have filled forwarded emails about ten years ago.

Do many people use it to spout vitriol and hatred/extreme views??
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I have a facebook account that I never use. On the very infrequent times I do log on- to see pics of the baby etc- most of the people on it are posting inane stuff. Or linking to funny videos, the kinda stuff that would have filled forwarded emails about ten years ago.

Do many people use it to spout vitriol and hatred/extreme views??
yes. I have cousin who's lived in Germany for more than a decade, and she's posting stuff like "go back home"... and I find myself thinking: how are *you* different from *them*? But, on the other hand, I've also found out that my other cousin (um, how's it called in English - my mother's brother's daughter's daughter) who's 13 is displaying impressive maturity and reasoning skills. And, her English is pretty good.
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yes. I have cousin who's lived in Germany for more than a decade, and she's posting stuff like "go back home"... and I find myself thinking: how are *you* different from *them*? But, on the other hand, I've also found out that my other cousin (um, how's it called in English - my mother's brother's daughter's daughter) who's 13 is displaying impressive maturity and reasoning skills. And, her English is pretty good.
Your uncle's daughter is your cousin and her daughter is your cousin once removed. You are also her cousin once removed as you are her mother's cousin. In a sense uncles, aunts, nephews and nieces would be siblings once removed if such a term were used. A grandparent's cousin is a cousin twice removed.
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Your uncle's daughter is your cousin and her daughter is your cousin once removed. You are also her cousin once removed as you are her mother's cousin. In a sense uncles, aunts, nephews and nieces would be siblings once removed if such a term were used. A grandparent's cousin is a cousin twice removed.
We call the relationship yks describes "2nd cousin".

Or as the people in Mayo say- "fair game".

Its like our Alabama. Or Latvia.
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We call the relationship yks describes "2nd cousin".

Or as the people in Mayo say- "fair game".

Its like our Alabama. Or Latvia.
I thought a second cousin is a child of a parent's cousin. You share greatgrandparents but not grandparents. Is it different for Irish or is one of us just confused?

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That backs up Naz and is very helpful.

But, colloquially, in ireland 2nd cousin and 1st cousins once removed are reversed.

To put it in simple terms- 2nd cousins is considered a closer relation than 1st cousin once removed.

2nd cousins are very far out relations in that list. Great grandchild to great grand child.
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That backs up Naz and is very helpful.

But, colloquially, in ireland 2nd cousin and 1st cousins once removed are reversed.

To put it in simple terms- 2nd cousins is considered a closer relation than 1st cousin once removed.

2nd cousins are very far out relations in that list. Great grandchild to great grand child.
English is weird. In Estonian there's a distinct word for the brother of your mother vs the brother of your father. Or the sister of your mother vs the sister of your mother. Albeit, almost everyone uses the mother-relative words when they mean generally the sibling of your parent. And so it's easy from there, it may be a mouthful but I can actually say "my mother's brother's daughter's daughter" and it will make sense and everyone knows who I'm talking about. It's weird but in this one very specific instance Estonian which has no genders for nouns, adjectives, verbs or even pronouns is more gendered and specific than all Indo-European languages I know.

On a related (ha. ha.) topic, when you want to say you're related to someone but it's too long to explain how, you say they're your "vanaema lehma lellepoeg" (grandmother's cow's father's brother's son)
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Or as a Habsburg would say, "Hey sexy, how YOU doin'?"
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Or as a Habsburg would say, "Hey sexy, how YOU doin'?"
I refuse to look things up so i have to ask- Habsburg, as in Austrian nobility???
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I refuse to look things up so i have to ask- Habsburg, as in Austrian nobility???
Obviously. After all, the Spanish branch would've used Spanish, not English.
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I refuse to look things up so i have to ask- Habsburg, as in Austrian nobility???
Austrian/Spanish/Low Countries (they inherited Burgundy for the most part too)...a royal family renowned for their desire to "keep it all in the family" so to speak...even more so than other royal/nobles of their time period.

Led to all sorts of genetic issues and the extinction of both major male lines by the mid-1700s...although the family of course survived through their female line up until the present day...the last pretender to the Austrian throne just died a few years back. I believe he had children as well so the line is still around though he (Otto Habsburg) did renounce all claims he had to any noble/royal titles, etc as part of his conditions to live in Austria IIRC.

Its been a while since I looked at any of that so some of the details might be off. Feel free to correct me, yks (or any other historians).
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