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What do you guys think about this article?

I think it is very inspriational and I am white. sheesh, he is good!

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What's being white have to do with anything? Do you usually disagree with blacks on general principle?
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did you read the article? if you did then you should probably understand what I am talking about
If not, I can spell it out for you if you ask nicely ;P
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Yes, Camel. Yes he does. He's clearly openly racist. That's why he was arguing for the black people in that other thread.

(Yes, I'm laughing at you. I'd be sorry, but I think you can take it and I'm not sure you weren't joking in the first place.)

Anyway, I don't think it's so much specifically blacks taking responsibility as everyone taking responsibility and that is something I'm fully behind.
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I might be wrong, but I don't think he was joking...and the reason for that might possibly be some strange things that Narg has said on the issue of race in the past. And that comment in particular was a bit strange. Why would being white make Obama's speech any less inspiring?

Not saying Narg's racist or anything like that...just that I understand Camel's comment, despite the fact that it did come off as a needless attack.
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I might be wrong, but I don't think he was joking...and the reason for that might possibly be some strange things that Narg has said on the issue of race in the past. And that comment in particular was a bit strange. Why would being white make Obama's speech any less inspiring?

Not saying Narg's racist or anything like that...just that I understand Camel's comment, despite the fact that it did come off as a needless attack.
cause Obama was calling blacks to take more responsibility directly. I assumed that since he was calling blacks to responsilibility that I was not his intended audience in the actual calling black people to responsibility. However, I feel inspired along the lines of what brigitte wrote.

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Well, I did read the whole article, and it says this:

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"It's not just a speech aimed at black audiences. It's aimed at all parents," Douglass said. Noting Obama also called for more corporate and government responsibility, she added: "This is a larger theme of responsibility."
While Jackson complained about such Obama speechmaking, other civil rights activists from the NAACP disagreed. They think Obama is doing a good job balancing his role as a black candidate with the need to speak to all races.
"He can't be totally focused on the black community," said Kelvin Shaw, of Shreveport, La. Shaw said he is most interested in what Obama plans on nationwide economic issues like rising oil prices, household costs and jobs. "We need to be talking about not one race, but what affects all people."
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Regardless, it was a great speech.
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Now why is it that when Bill Cosby says similar things to (mainly) black parents, he's not supported?
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Cuz he's an Uncle Tom! He's sold out to the white man! He's a race traitor! Those type of statements would be laughable if they weren't said in earnest about people like Bill Cosby.

And quite frankly Obama has gotten a bit of that himself for his speeches a la Jessie Jackson's desire to castrate the man. A better question Ishy is why is it that when anyone within the black community mentions the word responsibility and isn't blaming the white man while using it, the reaction is knee jerk vitriol involving Uncle Tom and cutting off people's nuts?
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Um... no one is taking responsibility for their own actions. Why should black people be singled out?
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Hey, Gil, they really aren't. Unless you count "black people and everyone else" as really singling them out, which I don't. That's just the article's title. The point of the speech was that everyone should be taking responsibility.
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Check your sarcasm-o-meter, B. I believe it's on the fritz.
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Well, in my defense, that question was already raised... Uh.. yeah... ~goes to check sarcasm detector in shame~
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Awww- I'm proud of you too America
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'scuse me while I go puke up that wonderful lunch I had in honor of Davian.

Hey Dav...I'm willing to share what I got back here....
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