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At least the Right blocking a nominee will bring to focus exactly what's at stake in November. Do the Democratic voters trust Sanders to win? I don't.
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That's total bullshit and you know it. McConnell has already come out saying he's going to block any attempt as will Cruz. It's pure politics, not a slow nomination process. When's the last time the court waited 11 months to attempt to fill a nomination? Never
Souter announced his retirement on April 30th, 2009. Sotomayor was nominated on May 26th and confirmed on August 6th.

John Paul Stevens announced his retirement on April 9th, 2010. Kagan was nominated on May 10th and confirmed on August 5th.
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At least the Right blocking a nominee will bring to focus exactly what's at stake in November. Do the Democratic voters trust Sanders to win? I don't.
I trust him a lot more than I trust Hillary to win. She's under three separate investigations and she doesn't inspire liberals. If Trump is the nominee (which seems likely at this point), Bernie will be immune to Trump's advantages, that he doesn't take big campaign contributions, populist sentiment, etc.
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Bernie will be immune to Trump's advantages, that he doesn't take big campaign contributions, populist sentiment, etc.
You're forgetting a rather big one...
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Anyone else thinking that Obama should just send the ultimate f*ck you to the Republicans and nominate himself?
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Nominate Biden.
Obama has an impeccable resume for the court. Magna cum laude Harvard Law School. Harvard Law Review President. Professor of Constitutional Law at the Univ. of Chicago. Senator from Illinois. President of the United States. How could they possibly not confirm?

Hell, just let Biden be President for a few months after Obama is confirmed in the summer. Maybe South Carolina and the rest of Dixie will secede again and this time we can just celebrate and watch them collapse into a 3rd World sh*thole.
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Anyone else thinking that Obama should just send the ultimate f*ck you to the Republicans and nominate himself?
Legally speaking, can he? I'm not sure if such a law exists, but I would thing something would prevent a person from holding two such offices.

What WOULD be fun is if the Republicans succeed in blocking his nominee now, and are then presented with Obama as the nominee by the next president.

I won't pretend to any real sorrow over his death beyond the fact that any death is sad. But I DO think it is ridiculous that politicians didn't even bother to wait for a day before fighting about whether he should be immediately replaced. All out of "respect for his legacy" of course.

Obama should have every right to appoint a successor. The Dems and the Republicans don't even have nominees yet. 11 months is a good long time in a Presidency, and it makes no sense to argue that just because he won't be reelected at that point, Obama should loll about doing nothing till then.
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The one thing Trump supporters seem to care about most, according to most polls and surveys? Something Hillary is actually respected for by reasonable individuals?
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No, it's politics. Get over it. It would be horrible for the Senate to give in and rush in a nominee just because Obama sheep want them to. If roles were reversed, liberals would never give in. And no, nomination process and confirmation DOES take awhile.

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I'm tired; spell it out.
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The 2016 election has become a fight for nominating the next Supreme Court justice. Will we get a justice who will fight for the written Constitution? Or a justice, like the liberals on the court now (including Kennedy) who will fight for the tempting, idealistic policy of the day?
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The 2016 election has become a fight for nominating the next Supreme Court justice. Will we get a justice who will fight for the written Constitution? Or a justice, like the liberals on the court now (including Kennedy) who will fight for the tempting, idealistic policy of the day?
How dare these women think they should have the right to vote, or have their health care pay for birth control, or get an abortion. How dare these black people think they should have the right to be free, let alone vote. How dare these gay people think they should have the right to marry, or buy a cake.
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Defense. I'm not saying Trump would be good at it (I think the reality is quite the reverse) or that Sanders would be bad. What I am saying is that Trump has the image of someone who can defend the country (obtained saying he'd restart torture programs and ban Muslims, but whatever). Hillary helped (how much she did, I don't know. But she has a credible claim) get Bin Laden, and enjoys a similar reputation. At least among those not consumed by the Benghazi nonsense.

Bernie may be perfectly capable. He may even be the best of the bunch. But he doesn't cultivate the image of an effective Commander-in-Chief, and that will come back to bite him in November.

He's not even a great crusader. Warren would have been a much better choice to lead this 'movement'.
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Defense. I'm not saying Trump would be good at it (I think the reality is quite the reverse) or that Sanders would be bad. What I am saying is that Trump has the image of someone who can defend the country (obtained saying he'd restart torture programs and ban Muslims, but whatever). Hillary helped (how much she did, I don't know. But she has a credible claim) get Bin Laden, and enjoys a similar reputation. At least among those not consumed by the Benghazi nonsense.

Bernie may be perfectly capable. He may even be the best of the bunch. But he doesn't cultivate the image of an effective Commander-in-Chief, and that will come back to bite him in November.

He's not even a great crusader. Warren would have been a much better choice to lead this 'movement'.
Bernie's positions on foreign policy are actually in line with the majority of the country, and he has repeatedly shown better judgment. Even Chris Matthews said "I'm with Bernie on foreign policy" during the last debate. Trump's blatherings on this subject are appealing to the base of his voters, but not all of them.
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Bernie's positions on foreign policy are actually in line with the majority of the country, and he has repeatedly shown better judgment. Even Chris Matthews said "I'm with Bernie on foreign policy" during the last debate. Trump's blatherings on this subject are appealing to the base of his voters, but not all of them.
Bernie's just anti-interventionist, which is one of Matthews's two big concerns. Trump can actually make a good claim that he is too, considering he opposed the war in Iraq.
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I'm going to go on a tangent here and point out that death is not sad by default. In fact any sadness related to death is always about the living. They have lost someone they had a bond with and that is sad. Death is the force that keeps the cycle of life going. All living things feed on something that was once alive. Every part of us was once a part of something else and part of another being before that. Death is a necessary part of this cycle. It is only sad to those who had a connection to the person and the sadness is not in the person's death but the void they left behind in those people's hearts.
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The 2016 election has become a fight for nominating the next Supreme Court justice. Will we get a justice who will fight for the written Constitution? Or a justice, like the liberals on the court now (including Kennedy) who will fight for the tempting, idealistic policy of the day?
You know I think it is a particularly American lunacy to give a near holy halo to a two century old document. The original was not a gospel, and its writers were not omniscient. They seemed to have been perfectly aware that what they were working on was a start. One that would have to be reworked constantly to keep it relevant to the times.

Somehow, that seems to have been lost. Exaclty why should the intentions of men who died nearly 250 years ago matter to the United States as it is today?
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You know I think it is a particularly American lunacy to give a near holy halo to a two century old document. The original was not a gospel, and its writers were not omniscient. They seemed to have been perfectly aware that what they were working on was a start. One that would have to be reworked constantly to keep it relevant to the times.

Somehow, that seems to have been lost. Exaclty why should the intentions of men who died nearly 250 years ago matter to the United States as it is today?
It shouldn't, and this "originalist" nonsense was mostly Scalia's magnum opus. Hopefully Hades is getting creative with the bastard down in Tartarus.
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