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Am I the only one that really likes TGH? I thought it was a great book actually...especially during rereads.
I really liked it as well. I tentatively have it as #6 on my list, but most of the first 6 books are interchangeable for me at the top.
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1. TSR
-This is where I first realized the epic scope the series was taking
2. LOC
3. TEOTW
4. TGH
-when I do rereads this is still the quickest....so fast paced and energized
5. TDR
6. AMOL
-It's not perfect, but nothing you wait this long for could be, a very fitting end, I say
7. KOD
8. TGS
9. TFOH
-the first one that really dragged for me my first time through this took FOREVER to finish...that Valan Luca sequence is just awful
10. ACOS
11. WH
12. APOD
13. TOM
-this suffers a lot from the split with TGS, which I'm convinced was Harriet and TOR's decision more than Brandon's. They wanted the best parts in TGS to keep people's confidence in the series
14. COT
-The first book (besides New Spring) that I had to wait long for--I waited for WH in paperback--and I was VERY disappointed with how little the plot moved, although I can appreciate it more now
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1. TDR
2. TGH
3. LoC
4. TSR
5. EotW
6. TFoH

I rate these 6 very close together, and they may oscillate in order, but always remain in my top 6. They are the most focused and concise of the books, have great thematic elements, and hints of the scope of vision required for the series, without what I consider too many tedious digressions. After book #6, I felt RJ began too many side-stories and POV's without enough focus on making each book have its own arc. The first 6 will always be my favorites in structure.

7. CoS
8. WH
9. KoD
10. PoD
11. TGS
12. AMoL
13. ToM
14. CoT

I preferred RJ's writing to Brandon's on the whole, with the exception of CoT. I did enjoy the end of AMoL, but it was too uneven and unpolished as a whole to warrant a comparison with most of RJ's earlier books. It was enjoyable, but I cringed entirely too many times for me to justify putting it higher.
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I like the Sanderson books a lot more than most people. I think of the quality in tiers rather than in a strict ranking system

Books I treasure:
  • The Eye of the World
  • The Great Hunt
  • The Dragon Reborn
  • The Shadow Rising
  • The Gathering Storm

Books I think are awesome:
  • The Fires Of Heaven
  • Lord of Chaos
  • A Crown of Swords
  • Winter's Heart
  • Knife of Dreams
  • Towers of Midnight

Books I thought were pretty good or entertaining enough:
  • Path of Daggers
  • New Spring

Books I don't even bother with on a re-read anymore because twice was enough:
  • Crossroads of Twilight

Books it is too soon to rank:
  • A Memory of Light
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1. The Great Hunt: It's honestly my favorite in the series. I disagree it severely with your lack of love for it.
2. The Shadow Rising: This book has the best balance between the focused, self-contained narratives of the first three books, and the world-building depth of the later. My only problem is that I find Nynaeve and Elayne's plot to be incredibly dull until the very end (Nynaeve versus Moghedien is fantastic).

The rest I'm less sure about, and I could change my mind about them quickly upon rereading.

3. The Eye of the World
The Dragon Reborn: These two books are great as individual stories, which cannot be said for most novels in this series, and they have many classic moments. Also, I prefer the relatively few points of view that Jordan uses early on, as I really don't care much about Windfinder A or B, or Kinswoman A all that much.
4. Fires of Heaven: Great book, for the most part, and Mat, in particular, is great. This book does represent the moment when Jordan starts to drag out plots far too much, however, to the point in which my overall opinion of the book is affected heavily. Here, Nynaeve and Elayne's journey to the rebel faction of the Aes Sedai is particularly bad, if you ask me.
5. The Gathering Storm: I loved this book and think it's better than most of the books written by Jordan alone. It actually has a complete story arc. Rand and Egwene are both fantastic, and I actually worried about how things would turn out for the first time in forever.
6. Lord of Chaos: Has some great moments, has some dull moments, but the former still outnumbers the latter. Personally, I don't have the same amount of love for Dumai's Wells that others seem to possess (I prefer the endings in the first five endings more), but it is a landmark moment.
7. Crown of Swords
Towers of Midnight
Memory of Light: These three all have great moments but serious flaws. In CoS, Jordan has a number of great scenes...but also way too much fluff. The last two books, on the other hand, are more consistently good than any book written by Jordan after the Shadow Rising, but the best moments of those two books don't match what Jordan was capable of, in my opinion.
8. Winter's Heart
Knife of Dreams: Winter's Heart has a great ending and one of the most amazing scenes in the series, and I seriously enjoy Mat's subplot, but I dislike most of the rest of the book (aside from the too rare Rand chapter). Knife of Dreams is quite good (and, again, I especially loved Mat's subplot), but I wasn't really enthralled by it, overall.
9. Crossroads of Twilight: Yeah, this book isn't very good. I only like the Mat chapters. Yet there's one book in the series I actually like less than this one.
10. Path of Daggers: I hate this book and like absolutely no part in it.
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10. Path of Daggers: I hate this book and like absolutely no part in it.
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How could you not like the Damona campaign and the Rand/LTT interactions? Or how about "A Cup of Sleep"? Those instances are flat out some of the best writing in the entire series.
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Rand losing his shit with Callandor was awesome too. Deadsy says she doesn't like it because it was so dark. She also said she didn't like HP5 for that reason.
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Rand losing his shit with Callandor was awesome too. Deadsy says she doesn't like it because it was so dark. She also said she didn't like HP5 for that reason.
POD is underrated for the reasons mentioned...very solid book.

Even has good cover art...
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Rand losing his shit with Callandor was awesome too. Deadsy says she doesn't like it because it was so dark. She also said she didn't like HP5 for that reason.
I'm not dumb enough to say I hated all of it though. I loved the Egwene stuff and Morgase ending up with Perrin. And Elayne/Nynaeve/Aviendha escaping from Ebou Dar. And IIRC there was an Alviarin chapter in there I like. Or an Elaida one with Alviarin.
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What is hp5?

...sounds like some kind of sun tan lotion or oil...
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...sounds like some kind of sun tan lotion or oil...
I'm assuming she means Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix...
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eh I am not a fan of children books too often. Read the first few books and just couldnt keep with it...

Though I am reading Ender's Game to my 8 year old. He loves it! Not so sure I would consider Ender's Game a childrens book in the same way I do Harry Potter books...

EDIT: and I just got my nephews The Hungry Hungry Caterpillar and Goodnight Moon... they are 2 and 3, but gotta instill that love of reading early imo!
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POD is underrated for the reasons mentioned...very solid book.

Even has good cover art...

Without question, this is the best Sweet cover. It doesn't even look like he drew it!
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It does look like he drew it, but it's still good. The humans are small, though, and I think that helped.
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I find it funny how different these rankings are compared to other rankings threads right after TGS and ToM.

With those other rankings threads, both times TGS and ToM consistently ranked very high on many of the lists, especially TGS (first Sanderson book, right!). Meanwhile, both TGS and ToM were pretty much dead last (or very close along with PoD) on my lists even though everyone else seemed to disagree. I even brought it up, guessing that people were in denial and wanted to pretend that Sanderson's books were better than they actually were. That didn't go over well.

Oh, how time and familiarity changes things.

(Keep in mind, while I thought TGS and ToM were lacking in certain things, I am both glad they were written and thankful for the developmental pace as well.)
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One final time into the breach on this one. Though a aMoL re-read may be in order before it finds its true place.

I also prefer a tiered approach, but I'll also rank them numerically.

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1. The Shadow Rising. Unquestioned #1 for me.
2. The Great Hunt. Loved this book.
3. Eye of the World. I still treasure it.
4. Lord of Chaos.

Excellent/Very Good
5. The Fires of Heaven.
6. The Dragon Reborn
7. Knife of Dreams
8. The Gathering Storm

Good/Enjoyable
9. The Path of Daggers
10. New Spring
11. A Crown of Swords
12. Winter's Heart


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14. Towers of Midnight
15. Crossroads of Twilight
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(Keep in mind, while I thought TGS and ToM were lacking in certain things, I am both glad they were written and thankful for the developmental pace as well.)
One thing to keep in mind is the re-readability. I find it really difficult to re-read TGS and TOM (and now probably AMOL) so that moves them down the list. TSR I could probably read 50 more times before I die.
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One thing to keep in mind is the re-readability. I find it really difficult to re-read TGS and TOM (and now probably AMOL) so that moves them down the list. TSR I could probably read 50 more times before I die.
For me, rereads turn into a slog after Path of Daggers.

I just dont care enough about the WT plot and all that secondary stuff to want to keep reliving it.

Also, WH, CoT, KoD are honestly very dark books and even most of TGS...tough to reread.
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One thing to keep in mind is the re-readability. I find it really difficult to re-read TGS and TOM (and now probably AMOL) so that moves them down the list. TSR I could probably read 50 more times before I die.
This has actually been a factor for me since TGS came out. I found that I simply didn't have any need nor want to re-read TGS, and that applied to the majority of ToM as well. One exception offhand being the Tower of Ghenjei stuff.

Meanwhile, I find no mental barriers whatsoever to re-reading any of the other books, even my least favorite RJ title of PoD. I hate to say it, but it's the writing.
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