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Chapter 36: The Death of Tuon

Don't the empresses take a new name when they become empress. If I'm not mistaken Suroth considered this when thinking of Tuon and the Empress being dead and going for the job herself.

If she is being crowned would it not be Tuon is no more long live the Empress X.
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haha, you were a spoiler whore for KoD weren't you?
I can't remember how much I saw when KoD came out (it might have been information spanning the entire book; it was a hefty amount that's for sure), but I do remember learning of Aram's death before reading the book.

And that's precisely why spoilers most of the time suck: Aram's death was meant to be a shock first time through. And here I was reading and knowing the entire time. Scene becomes, if not meaningless, at least severely weakened.

Some things are decent to know ahead of time (everyone knows we're going to the Tower of Ghenjei, for instance), but with the major things and how they're resolved, it's just a bad deal. You want that itch to be scratched and basically cut your arm off with a cheap and easy solution. We all know the point of the story is the reading of it, not just learning of the ending. That first reading experience is 95% of the joy we'll get out of the book (the other 5% coming from years of wringing out every detail).

Not worth it to spoil that first reading. I've done it. That's why I figured the chapter titles were good enough. I wouldn't mind knowing which POV was which chapter, but that's about all I want to know. And if I have to live 5 more days without having that information, I'll just have to try to deal with the loss.

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I can't remember how much I saw when KoD came out (it might have been information spanning the entire book; it was a hefty amount that's for sure), but I do remember learning of Aram's death before reading the book.

And that's precisely why spoilers most of the time suck: Aram's death was meant to be a shock first time through. And here I was reading and knowing the entire time. Scene becomes, if not meaningless, at least severely weakened.
Well. I think Aram's death just sucked. It was anti-climactic. So, you confused that reaction with having been spoiled for it.

Anyway...I can't talk to you for a week then cause I will have finished it by tomorrow (hopefully). Woo!
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Bob, I think you should start a new thread for your spoilers - a lot of people are probably coming in here thinking they're only going to read chapter titles and getting whole book spoilers.

But yay, interesting tidbits! Let's discuss them in another thread!
Sure, I guess, I gave fair warning and put the post in a spoiler block, but I'll discuss it elsewhere.


...though I really don't wanna see too many more.
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And that's precisely why spoilers most of the time suck: Aram's death was meant to be a shock first time through. And here I was reading and knowing the entire time. Scene becomes, if not meaningless, at least severely weakened.
I didn't have it spoiled for me, and a quote from Firefly sums up my reaction rather well. "Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal."

If anything I was mostly relieved to be done with a boring character. The anticlimactness of it was probably the best part.
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Sure, I guess, I gave fair warning and put the post in a spoiler block, but I'll discuss it elsewhere.


...though I really don't wanna see too many more.
I posted some vague-ish major-spoiler-avoiding chapter summaries for the first 12 in the spoiler thread, and put the only major spoiler in spoiler tags so that you can read the rest without that quite easily. I listed points of view for a few chapters after that, with number of pages dedicated to each, but no real info on those.
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Some interesting chapter names.

I find the most interesting are the one's involving plays on metal or metal working :

Chapter 1: Tears from Steel
Chapter 6: When Iron melts
Chapter 46: To be Forged again
Chapter 50: Veins of Gold
I'm just wondering if Rand is going to seal up the DO by burning the 17th Metal.
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I can't remember how much I saw when KoD came out (it might have been information spanning the entire book; it was a hefty amount that's for sure), but I do remember learning of Aram's death before reading the book.

And that's precisely why spoilers most of the time suck: Aram's death was meant to be a shock first time through. And here I was reading and knowing the entire time. Scene becomes, if not meaningless, at least severely weakened.

Some things are decent to know ahead of time (everyone knows we're going to the Tower of Ghenjei, for instance), but with the major things and how they're resolved, it's just a bad deal. You want that itch to be scratched and basically cut your arm off with a cheap and easy solution. We all know the point of the story is the reading of it, not just learning of the ending. That first reading experience is 95% of the joy we'll get out of the book (the other 5% coming from years of wringing out every detail).

Not worth it to spoil that first reading. I've done it. That's why I figured the chapter titles were good enough. I wouldn't mind knowing which POV was which chapter, but that's about all I want to know. And if I have to live 5 more days without having that information, I'll just have to try to deal with the loss.

I agree with all of the above. Though it's more like 50-50 %.
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