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Old 01-11-2013, 10:38 PM
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After 13 years of reading the Wheel of Time I finally finished A Memory of Light. The book and the ending were better than I could have ever imagined them to be. Every book from now on will be measured by this book's greatness.
First of many questions, perhaps someone knows already? Why didn't Rand go and teach the Tinkers "The Song"? He obviously knew it and if he taught it to them that could have combated the breaking of the world. This is perhaps a better question to ask Brandon but I kept looking for it while reading and never saw it.
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After 13 years of reading the Wheel of Time I finally finished A Memory of Light. The book and the ending were better than I could have ever imagined them to be. Every book from now on will be measured by this book's greatness.
First of many questions, perhaps someone knows already? Why didn't Rand go and teach the Tinkers "The Song"? He obviously knew it and if he taught it to them that could have combated the breaking of the world. This is perhaps a better question to ask Brandon but I kept looking for it while reading and never saw it.
He didn't have time to, but "the Wanderer" might just find his way to the Tinkers post aMoL. The world could use some rebuilding.
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He didn't have time to, but "the Wanderer" might just find his way to the Tinkers post aMoL. The world could use some rebuilding.
That's a good point. I found this on Reddit/r/wot

http://www.reddit.com/r/WoT/comments...estions_after/

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4) If you had to think into the future of Randland, what do you picture the remaining heroes doing?
Well, in RJ’s notes, Perrin was to be involved in the Outriggers (which would be the story of Mat and Tuon in Seanchan.) So Perrin would make his way there, eventually. (I don’t know how that would have worked with Perrin’s new obligations.) From here, I stray away from cannon (meaning what RJ wanted) and into my own imaginings. I imagine that Rand went to see the world, becoming like Jain Farstrider. Min joined him, and they saw the world. Avi and Elayne spent decades, maybe centuries, leading their own people before retiring to join the other two.
So I guess Rand will just go around and will good things to happen the rest of his life?
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There was no "The Song".
The growing simply happened when Rand concentrated on that and was singing at the same time.

Mat recognised the tune that Rand was singing in the meeting with Tuon, and if Mat recognised it, then you can be fairly sure that at some time, a bunch of Tinkers had also heard that song. Thus, it was "The Song".
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Brandon said it was. (See my footnote.)
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My assumption is Lews Therin knew it (or one of the growing songs where the legend came from anyway).
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So Aiel Singing won't return, the Tuatha'an and Aiel won't merge, no return to the Way etc.

Well... we've got one early Fourth Age parameter settled with that.
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I've probably got this all wrong, but,
don't you need the Voice to make a song work?

So, LTT/Rand can sing one of the songs and make it work, but the Tinkers, who send their channelers (and therefore probably those who may have the Voice) away, have no chance, even if they knew which song to sing.
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I've probably got this all wrong, but,
don't you need the Voice to make a song work?

So, LTT/Rand can sing one of the songs and make it work, but the Tinkers, who send their channelers (and therefore probably those who may have the Voice) away, have no chance, even if they knew which song to sing.
There might not be a channeling requirement for "the Voice" as it may be a different talent altogether. For example, Ogier dont channel but "Woodsinging" is very clearly related to the Growing Songs/The Song.
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There might not be a channeling requirement for "the Voice" as it may be a different talent altogether. For example, Ogier dont channel but "Woodsinging" is very clearly related to the Growing Songs/The Song.
I guess you're right, especially since Rand managed to make Tuon's garden in Ebou Dar grow without channeling. Yet, at the same time he does equate channeling with singing (AMOL 37)
"Channelers helped create food for everyone"
But then, this is from his 'perfect' vision so it's pretty shaky as a basis for an argument.
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