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Old 01-02-2010, 03:30 PM
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Has anyone else read these? They're kind of dense, but I legitimately think Gene Wolfe may be the greatest author alive today. His style and use of half-forgotten words is so perfect. I've read all 4 books in the series several times in the last few weeks, and every time unravels a new layer.

Despite being, in my humble opinion, the best fantasy series ever written, I've barely ever heard of them. I actually bought the first one by mistake. Has anyone else found this little known literary treasure?
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Has anyone else read these? They're kind of dense, but I legitimately think Gene Wolfe may be the greatest author alive today. His style and use of half-forgotten words is so perfect. I've read all 4 books in the series several times in the last few weeks, and every time unravels a new layer.

Despite being, in my humble opinion, the best fantasy series ever written, I've barely ever heard of them. I actually bought the first one by mistake. Has anyone else found this little known literary treasure?
I have Ozymandius. I like them a lot.

Severian is a very interesting character. The story layout is excellent and the plot is pretty damn awesome.

I have, however, only read the series once. I reread the shadow of the torturer and the claw of the conciliator again about 6 months ago and loved them again. The problem is I cannot stand the third book(Lictor). I just can't face reading it through. The middle chapters drive me mental..

This is nothing new for me as I went for a long time unable to reread LoC!!!(I'm over that problem now)

As for the bolded part, I still plum for WoT as the holder of that title. I know a lot of people on this board love Malazan, as I do, but i still prefer Wot.

As for a non-WoT series, I believe Memory, Sorrow and Thorn is my favourite. I know a lot of people hate them but by god they are truly entertaining to me....
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Also, Ozymandius, Have you read the follow ups long and short sun?

They are quite good too but the characters are not quite as interesting imo...
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I would have agreed with you a few short weeks ago. But reading Wolfe made me realize that there is a whole other level of writing that Jordan doesn't really reach.

Its tough to put my finger on it. RJ is a great writer; he blends plots and characters together and has a great descriptive style. But occasionally I get the impression that he's overdoing it; not to sell more books or make more money or impress his audience, but because he loves the small details so much that he feels like he has to spend a page describing the gold scrollwork on a coat, or has to explain every item in the bathroom, every time.

Wolfe was so much more... succinct, I guess. Everything in his world is perfectly described, I thought. His use of dead words, or just long unused ones, not only helped with that shorter descriptive process, but really helped contribute to the atmosphere of the book. The fact that every detail might be crucial, as he won't repeat it for you again right as it becomes important, appealed to me. With the exception of Severian, I thought his characters were excellent. And in his case, its an autobiography of sorts, so he wouldn't describe himself. The idea that Severian is an unreliable narrator, despite having an eidatic memory, and that he might in fact be insane, was brilliant.

Everything about his work just screams depth. I'm on yet another reread, and new things pop up every time. You almost have to have foreknowledge of the plot to understand the genius of some of the foreshadowing.
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Haven't read it, and probably won't, but would hazard a guess, that no, he is not the greatest living author.

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well, Kurtz, i don't mean to be contradictory, but there are authors (admittedly, sci-fi authors) who think he is the greatest living english author.

and given that sci-fi is a pretty narrow field, i would trust a sci-fi author to make a universal opinion versus a non-fiction author making a similar opinion. given that the former is more likely to be wider read in the field of non-fiction than visa versa
 


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