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May so, Terez, however why is Brandon relying on the eWoT for evidence and to help see the context of the story when he has the extensive original notes of RJ, not to mention RJ's assistants??
What are you talking about?

Key point is, Asmodean is not coming back.
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To @Bela, nice deductive proof in another thread about why Asmodean should not coming back.
Does that mean I convinced you?
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Does that mean I convinced you?
Yes, I found much favor your logic proof.

Whereas, I found Brandon's SLC Q&A interview example on the vague side to say the least. No satisfaction.

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What are you talking about?
The point being Brandon seems to of relied on the eWoT, bizarrely enough. I'd of thought the original creator of the series would of had superior information resources about the storyline. Why would Brandon even need to use the eWoT?
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I think he was trying to say, no, Graendal could not have been balefired back far enough for this discussion to have merit.
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Encyclopedia WoT maybe.

Or maybe he meant ewoks. I have found them to be very creative little furry creatures.
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Encyclopedia WoT maybe.

Or maybe he meant ewoks. I have found them to be very creative little furry creatures.
Pretty sure we know what eWoT is. The question is why does Felix think Brandon relies on it?

On that note, I do find Ewoks to be underrated creatures. They're basically the laughingstock of the Far Far Away galaxy, but I mean... they kicked some serious Empire ass.
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The point being Brandon seems to of relied on the eWoT, bizarrely enough. I'd of thought the original creator of the series would of had superior information resources about the storyline. Why would Brandon even need to use the eWoT?
At a guess, because it's faster than calling Atlanta for every minor question?
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At a guess, because it's faster than calling Atlanta for every minor question?
Why would he call Atlanta? Don't Marie and Alan live in Charleston? And on top of that, I'm sure Brandon has his own copies of all of the notes and things that Marie and Alan and RJ made over the years.

I don't know for sure, as I really didn't pay attention to this aspect of the writing process, but I had thought that Jason, et al, were brought in once the drafts were complete and needed checking for continuity and accuracy.
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What do you mean about Brandon relying on eWot?
I thought he mentioned something like that at the signing you recorded.
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Why would he call Atlanta? Don't Marie and Alan live in Charleston?
Oops, had Sportcenter on in the background and typed the wrong city.

Still, a quick click or two is quicker than calling long distance and waiting for Maria and Alan to look it up.

I get the impression that he does NOT have copies of all of RJ's references and would still need to consult with Maria even if he did -- hence his new acronym, "MAFO."
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Oops, had Sportcenter on in the background and typed the wrong city.

Still, a quick click or two is quicker than calling long distance and waiting for Maria and Alan to look it up.
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Understandable, though I would argue that he says MAFO when he's on tour and doesn't exactly carry around a truckload of notes.
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The point being Brandon seems to of relied on the eWoT, bizarrely enough. I'd of thought the original creator of the series would of had superior information resources about the storyline. Why would Brandon even need to use the eWoT?
Brandon did say at the SLC signing that he uses Encyclopaedia WoT. I don't see that as bizarre at all I can imagine it being a useful resource even if he has all the notes and electronic versions of the books and all. I just hope that he knows that there are some errors in it. At any rate, I think it's a matter of how the Encyclopaedia is organized and the ease with which one can obtain information about specific characters. Of course he also relies on Charleston. But the Encyclopaedia WoT guy gave him a copy on CD so he can use it even when he doesn't have internet access. Here are the comments that BS made about it:

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I do use the internet fan resources quite a lot. The Encylcopaedia WoT has been extremely useful. This is by a guy named Bob Klutz, who bless his heart, he went through and referenced every time any character appears in any scene, and gives a chapter number and what they did. And you can look them up by their name. Yes. And they're linked. It's all linked, and so I can say, okay, I need to know every scene that Alviarin has been in and what she did in all these scenes, so I can go look them up and see how she talks. And see what was happening around her. I can go click on "Alviarin" and I can go and read in quick everything she's done in the entire series sentence by sentence. I can go click through to those chapters, find those chapters in my electronic copies of the books, look for her dialogue tags, read through how she sounds, and these sorts of things. It's amazingly helpful. So yeah, you're just in awe that Bob did this. I think he's a little shocked he did, too. He actually sent me a copy on CD so I could upload it to my computer, so I don't have to even be connected to the internet to do all this. So, it's amazing.
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Give a shout out to Mat. Theoryland's been very helpful to see what people are interested in, and what they're curious about, and what they're guessing. Because I know the answers, 'cause they're in the outline that Robert Jordan gave. And it's nice to know what people are really curious about so I can make sure I'm not missing any targets, so to speak. If there are things that a lot of people are talking about, then that can remind me, oh wait a minute, I need to find that in the notes, okay, here's what Robert Jordan said, and then I can include it, and things like that. So, you guys are a lot of help when you spend time doing all this stuff. It actually is...I'm secretly lurking and using all the stuff you're writing.
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Brandon did say at the SLC signing that he uses Encyclopaedia WoT. I don't see that as bizarre at all – I can imagine it being a useful resource even if he has all the notes and electronic versions of the books and all. I just hope that he knows that there are some errors in it.
Errors alone are the reason, why I think its bizarre Brandon relied on the eWoT webpage as a reference of characters, geography, events, organizations et la.

Why not rely the resources RJ created alone? Since he did the outlining of the series in advance. I assume that's partially why RJ employed 2 assistants among other reasons, to help organization things related to the series. Did Alan or Maria not create something superior to eWoT for RJ's private use?

Maybe I'm incorrect and RJ lacked the organizational resources of the written story that the eWoT has?

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But the Encyclopaedia WoT guy gave him a copy on CD so he can use it even when he doesn't have internet access. Here are the comments that BS made about it:
Brandon could of downloaded a copy of the eWoT resource easily, as it's already available online for free. That was one of the first things I did, after I learned it was available: download a local copy.

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Give a shout out to Mat. Theoryland's been very helpful to see what people are interested in, and what they're curious about, and what they're guessing. Because I know the answers, 'cause they're in the outline that Robert Jordan gave. And it's nice to know what people are really curious about so I can make sure I'm not missing any targets, so to speak. If there are things that a lot of people are talking about, then that can remind me, oh wait a minute, I need to find that in the notes, okay, here's what Robert Jordan said, and then I can include it, and things like that. So, you guys are a lot of help when you spend time doing all this stuff. It actually is...I'm secretly lurking and using all the stuff you're writing.
Yes, I too did notice Brandon did a good job with complex prior relationship between Aludra and Mat in tGS; which I too distinctly recall referring to a while back at Theoryland forums. Aludra, Mat and Tuon --> one giant uncertain love triangle.

However, I now wish I'd of spoken up more about he different personalities expressed by the various Aes Sedai Sitters; so Brandon could of done a better job rounding their characters out more fully. Few of the loyalist Sitters seemed, as I recalled they should of been in tGS book.
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