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Old 08-13-2009, 12:52 AM
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So, I didn't want to interrupt the "what made me laugh today" thread with political BS, but this pissed me off to no end:

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So, what exactly made you laugh here?


The fact that a man was beaten for trying to sell flags?

The fact that a black man was beaten and had racial insults thrown at him for daring to be a conservative?

The idea of union thugs beating someone for daring to display "don't tread on me?"

That a person has determined that he can't afford or doesn't currently want to pay for health insurance would have to pay out of pocket for his care because a couple of union thugs decided that it was "an attack on America" for a black man to not want everyone else to have to have to deal with any medical problems that he happens to have?

I guess I don't get it. What's funny? Other than the liberal thugs forgetting their "Oh, wait, we're not supposed to be racist" meme. That is amusing in a "not funny in damn way" way.
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Why do you keep mentioning that he's black? No one else did...

No, it's not funny that he was beaten - obviously no one here approves of violence. I'm pretty sure that the 'funny' aspect is obvious to everyone...not sure why it isn't obvious to you.
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Why do you keep mentioning that he's black? No one else did...

No, it's not funny that he was beaten - obviously no one here approves of violence. I'm pretty sure that the 'funny' aspect is obvious to everyone...not sure why it isn't obvious to you.
I kept mentioning that he's black because Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton didn't. I kept mentioning that he was black because if black union thug had been beaten at pro-Obamacare rally I'd never hear the end of it.

And I don't see what's funny, because I see nothing funny about it.
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Well, it's not funny any more, since according to the update on the article, the guy has health insurance through his wife. In light of that information, however, it's unclear why he's soliciting donations to help pay for his medical expenses...
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Well, it's not funny any more, since according to the update on the article, the guy has health insurance through his wife. In light of that information, however, it's unclear why he's soliciting donations to help pay for his medical expenses...
You really don't get why his NOT having insurance to cover a beating by anti-universal health coverage thugs proves the damn point do you? You seriously don't understand why that would make him a damn hero.
I can rail against Obamacare as much as I want, I think it's destructive to our nation, but I have insurance. If a bunch of union thugs decide to put me in the hospital, my care is taken care of - for someone without insurance to make the same choice - to not think that is anyone's responsibility but their own - that's a damn hero. And, as a note, it's not funny.
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So, what exactly made you laugh here?
I didn't think it was funny, but I can take a guess as to why someone else might think it is. The article suggests (and links to other articles that flat out say) that the guy was a plant to make the proposed plan look bad. In fact, one of the linked articles has a link to an alleged video of the confrontation and alleges that the black guy you mentioned is walking around just fine after supposedly being beaten up (while the alleged thugs are on the ground and have been beaten up).

*shrug* I don't find it remotely interesting at all though.

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You really don't get why his NOT having insurance to cover a beating by anti-universal health coverage thugs proves the damn point do you?
I'm confused. The bit you quoted from terez's last post indicated that the article had been updated. If you read the article, it explains that the guy HAS insurance, he's NOT uninsured. Therefore, he's not a hero -- he's an actor. His point may be valid, but his insinuations regarding his own situation were not.
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Let me try to spell it out:

This guy is campaigning against health care reform, because he believes that the current situation (where not everyone can afford care) is superior to the proposal under which such care would be available to all.
He gets injured.
He needs treatment.
He can't pay for it.
Suddenly, instead of following the principles he campaigned for and doing without the care he can't pay for, he is begging other people to help him out, as they would have done under the scheme he was protesting against.

The funny thing is simply that his hypocrisy is exposed. Of course, it's not really a surprising thing, since few right wingers are smart and capable enough to hide their hypocrisy from even accidental scrutiny, so it not very funny either.
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Suddenly, instead of following the principles he campaigned for and doing without the care he can't pay for, he is begging other people to help him out, as they would have done under the scheme he was protesting against.
I think you meant to say "he is begging other people to help him out, as he would not need to do (universal healthcare and all that) under the scheme he was protesting against"

personally, I don't think it's funny. it's sad and pathetic all around.
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It would be just sad and pathetic if they were merely stupid enough to believe their own propaganda. The fact that they try to force the idiocy on others transforms it. And the fact that his attempt to force on onto others backfired and forced him to face the consequences of his own stance makes it funny.
The fact that he is using the "do as we say, not as we do" approach is just Republican Party business as usual.
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The fact that he is using the "do as we say, not as we do" approach is just Republican Party business as usual.

Now that, is Damn funny!
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Princess, you are coming really close to trolling. You seem to have the idea that we're a bunch of liberals who need educating.
a) Not true, we have a moderate-to-classic conservative bent here (except for those daggone Europeans and the occassional true radical, me)
2) we're a pretty damn smart bunch who will pick up on the baloney factor apparently quicker than you do.
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Are Americans supposed to know that Canadia is not in Europe?
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Sometimes we forget where it is...all tucked away down there.
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Canadia has great food. Szechuan chicken, moo goo gai pan, egg foo yung, fried rice, msg, General Tso's chicken, fragrant beef.....yummy, all of it!
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Canada- America's Attic.

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