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Why skip Galad and Perrin!?

We know they meet since Rand had a vision of them talking to one another. So why not include it in the story arc for Perrin instead of filling it with that useless fluff about him checking axles and Faile burning things? I found Perrin's story arc very lacking. I know It wasn't supposed to be a big part of this book but the Perrin/Galad scene seemed like a golden opportunity for some drama.

Hopefully we see a bit of it in ToM but it wouldn't make chronological sense unless Brandon went backward in time (something I thought they were trying to get away from).

Other than that, I thought the book was great. Very intense at time. Rand's encounter's with semi and tam both had me panting and whispering no to myself. I don't think there had been another book that got me so riled up. I liked it a lot.
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I will agree, Perrin's part in this book was useless. Of course, I've been mostly uninterested in Perrin pretty much since he left to go find the Prophet, so there you are.
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That made no sense to me either.

I do think we will go back in time and see it, though. And if that's the case it makes even less sense that we didn't just get it in this book.
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Perrin's arc time was useless and Mat's was mostly useless.
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I was just wondering why they referenced the encounter with Galad from Rand's swirling colors but didn't show it. There was tons of anticipation for it. And lots of good potential drama. It would seem foolish not to include it. This leads me to believe that it will be in ToM despite the apparent time line issues.
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I was just wondering why they referenced the encounter with Galad from Rand's swirling colors but didn't show it. There was tons of anticipation for it. And lots of good potential drama. It would seem foolish not to include it. This leads me to believe that it will be in ToM despite the apparent time line issues.
I doubt anyone would have been upset if we had gotten that instead of the stupid wagon scene.
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I doubt anyone would have been upset if we had gotten that instead of the stupid wagon scene.
My point exactly. This leads me to believe that the meeting is part of some greater Perrin plot arc which, for congruency sake, was pushed into ToM.
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I figure he didn't show it because it's going to be a long, involved plotline, so they didn't have space in the book for it.

It doesn't bother me - characters have had bit parts in books before.
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I figure he didn't show it because it's going to be a long, involved plotline, so they didn't have space in the book for it.

It doesn't bother me - characters have had bit parts in books before.
not just bit parts in many cases. Unless I'm mistaken, like Perrin in tFoH and Mat in tPoD, Elayne wasn't even in this book. Aviendha's part was also fairly small, mostly consisting of her doing useless chores. What was there did have their points, and as BS said, this could have been the monster 3-books-in-1, but they had to move it around a little. The book ended in a good spot and if they had to move things around a little for the best fit, then so be it. I'm sure we'll see Perrin meet up with Galad in the next book...and along with it the long anticipated meet between Galad and Berelain.
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What would have made the most sense, IMO, is simply having Rand not get that vision. And not having Tam mention Morgase.
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as I said in another post, I'm guessing it will be the Prolougue of the next book
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It seems somewhat bigger than a prologue scene. I think they'll show it outright as a portion of the greater Perrin story arc.
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RJ had always said the Prologue is an extension of the previous book. I think the meet will be there, I'm sure there will be more chapters with the whole crew coming to Rand throughout the next book.
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RJ had always said the Prologue is an extension of the previous book. I think the meet will be there, I'm sure there will be more chapters with the whole crew coming to Rand throughout the next book.
The best part is we have about 11.5 months till the next book if all goes well.
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I found Perrin's story arc very lacking. I know It wasn't supposed to be a big part of this book but the Perrin/Galad scene seemed like a golden opportunity for some drama.
Almost all the major character pov in tGS seemed to me, to be focused upon decisions "within" to become a leader. To step up, to move on, to become a true leader. Yes, Perrin, Egwene, Aviendha, Tuon, Rand and even Faile's pov scenes all did this.

Perrin was running from the wolves in TAR, scared to become a wolf...and Perrin was running from becoming leader of Two Rivers. Perrin finally decided mentally to take the next step, and become a "Lord". Berelain, Faile, Balwer, Alliandre and even Tam have help Perrin decide it necessary for his people to become a leader. Of course, Perrin as only half finished this...Perrin still needs to become a true leader of the wolves.

I believe RJ and Brandon wanted emphasize the final few steps of the young'sters becoming "true leaders" of their various groups in tGS.

I think we'll see Lan, Galad, Loial, and even Taim doing the same in the next book (ToM), becoming leaders for good or ill in Taim's case.
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Even Mat came to the conclusion that he had to stop running and face his problems, which should be a big shock to everyone
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The reason we don't have many Galad POVs is because he is clearly a Darkfriend. It'll come out soon enough and blow everyone's mind.
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The reason we don't have many Galad POVs is because he is clearly a Darkfriend. It'll come out soon enough and blow everyone's mind.
...hell, why not believe that since Verin turned out to be a DF and Elaida was captured instead of stilled and made an example of.

I'm only upset that the meeting was MENTIONED before it played out. It's the only time in the whole series that the Rainbow Connection (Some day we'll find it, the rainbow connection, the lovers, the dreamers, and me) revealed anything that had not been fully explored.
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The first thing I did when I got TGS was read all of Mat's sections. I found them to be pointless, like someone else mentioned. To be honest, they were downright depressing and felt weird to boot. Mat didn't accomplish a damn thing, he is now a pussy, and he is a VERY different character than we saw in KoD, let alone his last stuff in KoD. I realize he is worried for Tuon, but I don't like his new persona, the things he accomplished (nothing), or the way Mat's sections were written, down to usage of terms and words and dialogue between characters.

I have read a few other chapters of non-Mat stuff in TGS and am looking forward to having the time to read the rest. But the Mat stuff was a complete letdown for me, and there's obviously no one that feels crappier about me saying that than me. I was really looking forward to some good things. (and personally I didn't expect any ToG stuff in this 1st book)

I hate saying stuff like this and I'm sure this post will be met with criticism and offense, but this is my honest opinion of Mat's sections of TGS. Hopefully the rest of the book that I haven't read yet makes up for it and then things get awesome in the next book.
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