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Default Regarding Rand's memories

I've been looking over the other threads and noticed a few people have mentioned this, but never really discussed it, and I've been wondering about it since finishing the book, so I decided to start this. If there is an older thread where the purpose was warped for a while to talk about this, I apologize.


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It all swept over him, lives lived, mistakes made, love changing everything. He saw the entire world in his mind's eye, lit by the glow in his hand. He remembered lives, hundreds of them, thousands of them, streching to infinity. He remembered love, and peace, and joy, and hope.

Within that moment, suddenly something amazing occurred to him. ...
Rand's crazy epiphany can be taken as two ways just glancing at it.

1) He now has access to memories of his past lives, all of them, giving him Birgette-esque retention.

2) Rand saw clearly for that one split second and has access to only AoL and his own current life's memories.

The people I've seen mention this in other threads seem to believe more along the lines of the first option, whether or not he would lose those memories over time just as Birgette has would remain to be seen.

When I look at it however, I can't be so sure. The "Within that moment..." seems to place a great time restraint on those memories. It could be taken as merely the time lapse for the epiphany, but I'm not sure.

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I find it hard to believe that he'll retain access to all of those memories while incarnate. Birgitte's loss of memories seems to imply that the incarnate body can only handle so much. It's impossible to say from the context, though. We'll just have to wait and see. I'm sure he'll at least retain his Lews Therin memories, but beyond that, I have no idea.
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Anyone else's thoughts on this matter?
I lean towards the second one, personally.

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Default I wonder if this will go down as a PLE

It's like the Pattern waited for this moment to give him those memories and such to prep him for the final battle. Similar to Rand's fight with Ishamael in the sky, I wonder if this was another Pattern Level Event planned by Jordan.
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I lean towards the second one, personally.
Same here, I just wanted to see others opinions as well though.

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It's like the Pattern waited for this moment to give him those memories and such to prep him for the final battle. Similar to Rand's fight with Ishamael in the sky, I wonder if this was another Pattern Level Event planned by Jordan.
I doubt it, since there was an obvious mechanism to the integration. Also, I believe RJ said that the flashing of the sky battle over Saldaea and Ghealdan was a theWheeldidit, but not the sky battle itself.
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It's like the Pattern waited for this moment to give him those memories and such to prep him for the final battle. Similar to Rand's fight with Ishamael in the sky, I wonder if this was another Pattern Level Event planned by Jordan.
Now I'm beginning to wonder if Mat will suddenly gain his own past memories in ToM, in parallel to Rand's own experiences in tGS?? Specifically the song the seekers of the Tinkers have been trying to find for years and years?

Mat and Rand, both went to Rhuidean after all, and share to some degree that rite of passage together. Only Mat's luck seems to of prevented him from becoming an Aiel clan chief at the time.
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Now I'm beginning to wonder if Mat will suddenly gain his own past memories in ToM, in parallel to Rand's own experiences in tGS?? Specifically the song the seekers of the Tinkers have been trying to find for years and years?

Mat and Rand, both went to Rhuidean after all, and share to some degree that rite of passage together. Only Mat's luck seems to of prevented him from becoming an Aiel clan chief at the time.
I don't think there is any possibility of Mat having enough Aiel ancestors for the Glass Columns to affect him at all. He could probably run back and forth through the columns all day without getting a single flashback to an ancestor's POV.

Mat ancestry is clearly Manetherin and ONLY Manatherin because of how inbred the Three Rivers is. Mat an Perrin both were born in Emond's Field of a lineage that had stayed in the Two Rivers since the fall of Manatherin -- IOW, No Aiel in their ancestry at all.

Rand could become a Clan Chief -- and Car'a'carn -- because his father was Aiel.

See the Aiel Prophecies about "Born of the Ancient Blood and raised by an Old Blood, not ours" (and a coresponding KC prophecy)
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Default Obvious Mechanism?

What mechanism would have enabled Rand to access all of his lives as with the Heroes waiting in T'A'R, that isn't some Wheel/Pattern intervention?

And, no, I'm quite sure Rand's battle with Ishamael was a PLE.

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Jordan: An effect of the Wheel, really. It wasnt the Creator. The Wheel is more than a simple mechanism. Remember the Wheel can spit out taveren, can spit out Heroes as a self correcting device because the Pattern is drifting from what it is supposed to be. We are not talking about something as simple as a spinning wheel at all, we are talking something more along the lines of the most complex computer you could possibly imagine. There were at that time, two, there were false dragons that had a chance to create a lot of disruption. By the appearance in the sky at that battle, not just in Falme but in other places, those false dragons were taken off the board because there was only room now for one, for one dragon.
That's what I refer to as a Pattern Level Event, but I guess "effect of the Wheel" works, just doesn't sound as cool.
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What mechanism would have enabled Rand to access all of his lives as with the Heroes waiting in T'A'R, that isn't some Wheel/Pattern intervention?
If you're just talking about that one moment, then okay. I thought you were talking about the integration.

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And, no, I'm quite sure Rand's battle with Ishamael was a PLE.
k, I was remembering RJ's reasoning (which only really fits the flashes above Saldaea and Ghealdan).
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If you're just talking about that one moment, then okay. I thought you were talking about the integration.
Although, when you think about it, giving Rand this moment of awareness of all of his lives...does present an obvious way that the Wheel was weaving the Pattern to overcome the affects of the Taint...etc.
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I don't think there is any possibility of Mat having enough Aiel ancestors for the Glass Columns to affect him at all. He could probably run back and forth through the columns all day without getting a single flashback to an ancestor's POV.
So why and how would Moiraine be able to get a viewing from those very same Glass Columns?

Moiraine is not obviously of Aiel blood either, and yet it worked for her. So this theory seems to have a hole.

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Mat ancestry is clearly Manetherin and ONLY Manatherin because of how inbred the Three Rivers is. Mat an Perrin both were born in Emond's Field of a lineage that had stayed in the Two Rivers since the fall of Manatherin -- IOW, No Aiel in their ancestry at all.

Rand could become a Clan Chief -- and Car'a'carn -- because his father was Aiel.
The Aiel and later Jenn Aiel (Tinkers) were originally spread across the lands. Only later did they go into the Waste or Three Folds Land, and built Rhuidean. The Aiel would indeed have distant blood relatives elsewhere across the Westlands and on the Sea Folk Islands.

I would not be surprised to learn that the Sea Folk are distant relatives of the Aiel and Jenn Aiel. Except that the Sea Folk's version of the Jenn Aiel would of been the Amayar on the islands with their Water Way.

Who's to say what happened to former Aiel outside the Sea Folk islands and Three Folds Lands? Did they intermarry and adopt their spouse's cultural customs, dropping their former Jenn Aiel customs in the process??

The Tinkers abandon their own sons & daughters if they take up other people's customs it seems, e.g. Aram. So their blood would live on, but unacknowledged.
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Moiraine didn't go through the glass columns. that is for the 2nd trip the Wise Women take to Rhuidean.

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"Rand al'Thor." "Mat. Mat Cauthon." Amys nodded. "You, Rand al'Thor, must go into the heart of Rhuidean, to the very center. If you wish to go with him, Mat Cauthon, so be it, but know that most men who enter Rhuidean's heart do not come back, and some return mad. You may carry neither food nor water, in remembrance of our wanderings after the Breaking. You must go to Rhuidean unarmed, save with your hands and your own heart, to honor the Jenn. If you have weapons, place them on the ground before us. They will be here for you when you return. If you return."
The glass columns are at the heart of Rhuidean. That is where Aviendha is currently bound. Moiraine never entered them.
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Moraine didn't use the columns. She used the rings. That said, I don't think there's any reason to believe the columns only work for Aiel just because no one other than Aiel have ever been allowed to use them.
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Moraine didn't use the columns. She used the rings. That said, I don't think there's any reason to believe the columns only work for Aiel just because no one other than Aiel have ever been allowed to use them.
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RJ: Yes, a woman would also see through the eyes of her ancestors, at least in the “forest of crystal spires” ter’angreal, and she, too, would live the history of the Aiel, in effect. Someone who wasn’t Aiel could wander through those spires forever and never see a thing except the spires. He or she might think it was a monument, or maybe a work of art. Just for a reminder, women who are chosen out to be Wise Ones have to go to Rhuidean twice, the second time for the spires and the first for another ter’angreal, one that makes her see all of the possible paths her life could take all the way to their conclusion. She can’t possibly remember all of them, of course, but some things she will remember and know that it would be very bad for her to make that particular choice when it comes, or alternatively, very good. This is the ter’angreal that Moiraine went through.
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So why and how would Moiraine be able to get a viewing from those very same Glass Columns?
It would be a very good trick if she got any ancestral memories from the Galss Columns Ter'angreal used for selecting Clan Chiefs and confirming Wise Ones since she went through the Rhuidean Three Arches ter'angreal used for testing Wise One Apprentices. The Rhuidean Three Arches Ter'angreal is not to be confused with the White Tower's Three Arches ter'angreal used for Accepted testing. They are similar in form but different in function.

As for Tinker ancestry in the Three Rivers and or Aiel Ancestry from as far back as the Breaking, it's not likely -- The Aiel and Two Rivers are established as as pure and insular genetic pools as it is possible for them to be. Pure and insular enough to be identifiable in Prophecy.

The Glass Columns are keyed specifically to the history of the Aiel and RJ confirmed that each candidates sees his/her own ancestors who were present at key points in the history of the Aiel. They did not show Rand any of his Andoran/Cairheinen lineage, although it showed the meeting between the proto-Aiel and proto-cairheinens -- Rand quite possibly had two ancestors at that meeting.
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