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I've been perusing the RJ interviews, and found this:

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Re: Asmodean - He reiterated why he isn't telling and that he has tried to place a few clues in the latter books. He said that if occasion permits in the last book and it seems appropriate, the character doing the deed will probably think to themselves about killing Asmodean. However he gave no guarantee. But he did say he will reveal Asmodean's killer if he doesn't in the book before the paperback of book 12 comes out. He also went on to mention that there is one website that gets it right, with a very complete listing of the suspects with motives and facts that gets it right. He wasn't going to tell us which one. He said they got the right why as well and they used only facts in prior to the murder. I later asked him if he could say when he found out about the website and he said he couldn't remember but it was quite some time ago.
I came across a website similar to theoryland a few years ago but gave up on it when I realized it wasn't being updated. It has a crazy complete theory on Asmo being murdered, 34 pages long when copied into a Word program (I did it just to check the length, not mess with copyright or any of that).

Anyway, it can be found by going to linuxmafia.com and clicking on 'Wheel of Time FAQ', then the table of contents section.

As anyone can see, I'm new here, so if people have gone over this before, which I'm sure they/you have, and already tried this then just say so then feel free to ignore it. Just wanted to put this out there in case.
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I came across a website similar to theoryland a few years ago but gave up on it when I realized it wasn't being updated. It has a crazy complete theory on Asmo being murdered, 34 pages long when copied into a Word program (I did it just to check the length, not mess with copyright or any of that).

Anyway, it can be found by going to linuxmafia.com and clicking on 'Wheel of Time FAQ', then the table of contents section.

As anyone can see, I'm new here, so if people have gone over this before, which I'm sure they/you have, and already tried this then just say so then feel free to ignore it. Just wanted to put this out there in case.
Obviously, it's Graendal.
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Obviously, it's Graendal.
hmm... a simple statement of opinion masked as fact? or 34 pages of crazy in depth research pointing at Slayer being hired by Lanfear...?
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Bela did it.
And oh no,...another Asmo thread. ~runs away screaming~

Not really. Though I will reiterate my statement that I will kill an ewok if it turns out that Lanny did it. I really don't know or care who did do it, so long as she did not.
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hmm... a simple statement of opinion masked as fact? or 34 pages of crazy in depth research pointing at Slayer being hired by Lanfear...?
I don't need 34 pages of crazy in-depth research pointing at Slayer being hired by Lanfear! It's intuitively obvious to the most casual observer!
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Forgotten about that one...I can only hope and hope and hope that quote turns out to be right.
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I don't need 34 pages of crazy in-depth research pointing at Slayer being hired by Lanfear! It's intuitively obvious to the most casual observer!
That's what I'm sayin'. So, you obviously agree with me.
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Forgotten about that one...I can only hope and hope and hope that quote turns out to be right.
And if it does? Still doesn't prove one way or another that a dead forsaken didn't do it. I personally lean towards...well, anyone other than Lanny. I just don't see how this quote would prove anything one way or another?
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He said that if occasion permits in the last book and it seems appropriate, the character doing the deed will probably think to themselves about killing Asmodean. However he gave no guarantee.
This doesn't prove anything. But I'll be happy with whoever it is...so long as Lanfear was. not. it.
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Yes, that is the quote where RJ pretty much says it will be revealed in a POV.

I figure the deseased suspects, like Sammael, are off the table.
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If you feel it should be, or anyone wants to speak on it a bit more indepth, go ahead. I just wanted to put the site out there, and as it hasn't been updated since WH, I found no immediate spoilers and put it here. Well, no spoilers beyond the obvious.
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Well, no spoilers beyond the obvious.
Don't you mean... the intuitively obvious? Hmmmmmmm...
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Bela did it.
And oh no,...another Asmo thread. ~runs away screaming~

Not really. Though I will reiterate my statement that I will kill an ewok if it turns out that Lanny did it. I really don't know or care who did do it, so long as she did not.
Please, don't let a simple thing like Lanfear NOT doing it keep you from killing as many ewoks as you see fit.
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hmm... a simple statement of opinion masked as fact? or 34 pages of crazy in depth research pointing at Slayer being hired by Lanfear...?
The RJ quote you posted says they used information only prior to the murder. This analysis uses info from Winter's Heart, and as a matter of fact, there was no evidence whatsoever that Slayer was an assassin for hire before then. So this isn't what RJ was talking about. Also, they didn't make a statement as to who they thought the most likely suspect was. Slayer was just the last one they covered.

The FAQ doesn't even mention Aviendha......
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The RJ quote you posted says they used information only prior to the murder. This analysis uses info from Winter's Heart, and as a matter of fact, there was no evidence whatsoever that Slayer was an assassin for hire before then. So this isn't what RJ was talking about.

The FAQ doesn't even mention Aviendha......
I'm assuming they have been updating it as the series progressed, up through WH at least, and I for one don't see any reason for aviendha to do it, so that doesn't really matter to me.

EDIT: (didn't want to double post) But that is a pretty big disagreement with the quote, well shucks...
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I'm assuming they have been updating it as the series progressed, up through WH at least
Yeah, which is why they have him on there at all. No one even considered him until Winter's Heart.

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I for one don't see any reason for aviendha to do it, so that doesn't really matter to me.
It was just a general observation, not really directed to you. As for her motive, though....she was taking care of her man, since he's too daft to realize that keeping a Forsaken around is a BAD IDEA. Also, quite possibly working on orders from the Wise Ones.

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As for her motive, though....she was taking care of her man, since he's too daft to realize that keeping a Forsaken around is a BAD IDEA. Also, quite possibly working on orders from the Wise Ones.
You mean taking care of *Elayne's* man.
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hahaha, either works, but she knew even at that point that she would eventually have him too - the rings showed her that. She was just holding out due to toh at the time.

PS - Abbey Road has that same Lews Therin quote in his sig.
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I think overall, you have to remember that there are a great deal of websites out there. The main ones, like Theoryland, Dragonmount, Wotmania, newsgroups, etc, have all had huge long drawn out posts on who dunnit.

In fact, if you look back at our history here at theoryland, this comment by Jordan was made recently after we have a huge thread on the Asmodean killer right here at Theoryland.
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PS - Abbey Road has that same Lews Therin quote in his sig.
Is that a bad thing? It's one of only a few quotes I've truly enjoyed enough to remember years after reading it only once.

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I think overall, you have to remember that there are a great deal of websites out there. The main ones, like Theoryland, Dragonmount, Wotmania, newsgroups, etc, have all had huge long drawn out posts on who dunnit.

In fact, if you look back at our history here at theoryland, this comment by Jordan was made recently after we have a huge thread on the Asmodean killer right here at Theoryland.
Yeah, I just wanted to put that one out there for contention, seems extremely unlikely now though.
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